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July 02, 2013, 05:02:08 AM
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Im not really sure the best approach for cost effectiveness. Has anyone found a 100mmx100mm "standard" style aluminum heatsink that is worth bringing to a machine shop to get the holes drilled? Or is it best to just get them custom made? I live in the Boston area, and this is the best looking place so far I've found: http://www.qats.com/Request.aspx (Advanced Thermal Solutions). They have a plethora of heatsinks and designs pre-fab'd, and accept custom orders. I'll look into it.
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July 02, 2013, 11:32:10 AM
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Interesting what difference 10mm to 32mm makes. You have an interesting software there.

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July 02, 2013, 02:15:25 PM
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Im not really sure the best approach for cost effectiveness. Has anyone found a 100mmx100mm "standard" style aluminum heatsink that is worth bringing to a machine shop to get the holes drilled? Or is it best to just get them custom made? I live in the Boston area, and this is the best looking place so far I've found: http://www.qats.com/Request.aspx (Advanced Thermal Solutions). They have a plethora of heatsinks and designs pre-fab'd, and accept custom orders. I'll look into it.

I got a quote from Heatsink USA for 3.5"(90mm) x 3.5"(90mm) here.

Qty. 100, SKU I004, Cut to 3.500” x 3.500” Heatsinks @ $4.36 each = $436.00 (Retail Cost)

Qty. 100, Cut to length charge @ $.20 each = $20.00

Qty. 100, Machine Work @ $5.02 each = $502.00

Total Cost = $963.02 ---> $9.63 each Sad

 

Qty. 400 (Retail Cost)

 

Qty. 416, SKU I004, Cut to 3.500” x 3.500” Heatsinks @ $3.92 each = $1,630.72 (10% discount from retail)

Qty. 416, Cut to length charge @ $.20 each = $83.20

Qty. 416,  Machine Work @ $ 3.90 each = $1,622.40

Total Cost = $3,336.32 --> $8.34 each  Undecided

 

Qty. 1,200 (12% discount)

 

Qty. 1,250, SKU I004, Cut to 3.500” x 3.500” Heatsinks @ $3.71 each = $4,637.50 (15% discount from retail)

Qty. 1,250, Cut to length charge @ $.20 each = $250.00

Qty. 1,250, Machine Work @ $3.64 each = $4,550.00

Total Cost = $9,437.50 --> $7.86 each  Smiley

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July 02, 2013, 05:29:23 PM
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Well i Guess i will be following this tread ,

I have 6 K-16 orderd so I wil want to buy at least 6 heatsink ,
if a fan that goes with them also gets sourced would be verry great
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July 03, 2013, 02:15:02 AM
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The fins are slightly serrated as well or ribbed and there are two raised channels for holding fans or mounting, two fins in on either side.

But that is an amazing result. What is the heat compound simulated in the model?

Also the thermal vias will be filled with an epoxy, I think???, to prevent solder wicking... also the base of the heat sink is 5mm that is pictured pretty sure.
I didn't account for serrations but I think I can apply a surface area multiplier - this will improve heat-sink performance. The two raise channels will probably have little effect on the final result. The current assumption is that there is "perfect" contact between the sink and the board. I think I can add a compound on the interface but have not done so yet.

I will adjust the thickness of the base in the next run. As far as the thermal vias, I am still working on tweaking this. I currently am using copper lands which extend from the pad of the Avalon to the heat sink. Modeling is always a trade-off, it is important to get things as close as possible but sometimes too much detail is not worth the effort. These PCB/heat models can be very accurate (90-99%) so long as the main features are present and the mesh resolution is good enough.

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Vigil, are you taking orders for your heatsink when you've perfected it to your liking? If not, could you recommend the best place in the US to get them manufactured? I'm looking for 16.
As interesting as producing my own heatsinks would be, I currently have no immediate plans to sell heatsinks, but who knows how things will work out in the future. This was a rough model of a commercially available heatsink posted on another forum by Bicknellski.

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Interesting what difference 10mm to 32mm makes. You have an interesting software there.
Yes, heat-transfer is a game of surface-area. This is why insulating a pipe too much can actually have the opposite effect.
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July 11, 2013, 08:31:21 PM
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Hello,
is somebody out there who is intending to produce a watercooling solution for BKKcoins K16?

user toolhead created a block for burnins bitburner.
it would be very nice if there would be a solution for the K16s too.
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July 12, 2013, 05:57:10 PM
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Hello,
is somebody out there who is intending to produce a watercooling solution for BKKcoins K16?

user toolhead created a block for burnins bitburner.
it would be very nice if there would be a solution for the K16s too.

I'm looking into it so as to add it as an option to my build services, but I don't have anything final yet.

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July 13, 2013, 07:16:02 PM
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Any news on this yet? I need to get heatsinks ordered for my assembly service ASAP.
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July 26, 2013, 06:26:06 AM
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Any news on the heatsinks for the k16? If so, lets get a group buy going in the US. I am based in Texas and wouldn't mind ordering 1000pcs to get a group buy started. PM me.
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July 26, 2013, 02:42:06 PM
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I've been busy sourcing all other parts and barely have had time to think about heatsinks. Seems there are a number of things to keep in mind:

First it needs to contact each of the reverse side of the 16 chips, of which there thermal vias to transfer heat out. Easy.

It should avoid the four side mounting holes. This is easily solved by using a 80x90mm size.

With a flat 80x90mm heatsink is there needs to be a small recessed area so not to short out the PCIe pins. You also need four mounting holes drilled through the heatsink for spring-loaded pins. This is where the cost begins to add up.

I've been floating the idea of using two separate, smaller heatsinks, 30x90mm. I don't know, that might be more expensive in the long run and you'd lose precious surface area. Bkk also gave me the idea of using a copper or aluminum shim to raise the heatsink a bit away from the PCIe pins. I'm just thinking out loud now, feel free to chime in with thoughts.
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July 27, 2013, 12:40:42 AM
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I ordered 250 heatsinks yesterday. They are 78x100mm. Just wide enough to cover the thermal pads and not covering the mounting holes. They cost about $4.50 each without shipping or tax.

I will have to mill out an area over the thru hole connector and drill/tap the mounting holes myself.
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