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August 29, 2017, 07:48:59 PM
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Consider some simple change that has not happened. For example. Your avatar could be upside down, or even sideways. But it isn't. Why not? Because it is a change that hasn't happened. It might happen if you make the change. But so far, there isn't any evidence of it happening.

My avatar is a human creation.  It will not change unless I change it.

We can't say the same about evolution.  While man can control evolution today (through selective breeding and killing), evolution also happens naturally.

After all, it is the reason we exist.  Smiley

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August 29, 2017, 08:04:01 PM
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Consider some simple change that has not happened. For example. Your avatar could be upside down, or even sideways. But it isn't. Why not? Because it is a change that hasn't happened. It might happen if you make the change. But so far, there isn't any evidence of it happening.

My avatar is a human creation.  It will not change unless I change it.

We can't say the same about evolution.  While man can control evolution today (through selective breeding and killing), evolution also happens naturally.

After all, it is the reason we exist.  Smiley

The point isn't your avatar. That was only an example. The point is change. Some changes happen, some potential changes don't. We don't have any evidence for species to species change in nature. And I am not saying that it couldn't happen. Nature is simply so complex that we don't have enough knowledge of how it works to determine if this kind of change took place.

So far that we factually understand, evolution is guesswork. As far as applying science to the chicken/egg question, we don't have enough knowledge to understand which came first, the chicken or the egg. This is where we need to look in a different science direction. We need to look at the science that proves God exists.

If we can scientifically prove that God exists, then we can look at nature as being something that God set up as it is. This changes, entirely, how we consider the question of what came first.

The scientific proof for the existence of God can be found here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

This is basic science. It's the desires of people and scientists that has turned their eyes away from considering it. If you search for it, you can find people discussing these things on the Internet, even though they may not be popular.

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August 29, 2017, 08:06:21 PM
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If we can scientifically prove that God exists, then we can look at nature as being something that God set up as it is.

Right.  But science cannot prove your fairy tale exists.  That's where it falls apart.   Cool

Science has proven evolution.  I don't know why you are fighting this - you can't refute a fact.

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August 29, 2017, 08:16:30 PM
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If we can scientifically prove that God exists, then we can look at nature as being something that God set up as it is.

Right.  But science cannot prove your fairy tale exists.  That's where it falls apart.   Cool

Science has proven evolution.  I don't know why you are fighting this - you can't refute a fact.

The fact that evolution is called a theory, shows that it has not been proven. Even if it were proven possible, it would take a lot more to prove it actually happened in nature.

If you set aside religious details about God, and look only at the basics, science has proven God exists as shown by the science in the links in my previous post.

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August 29, 2017, 08:20:42 PM
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Billions of people believe in evolution.  It has been proven many times over in countless books that YOU can read and learn from.

There is no proof, other than in your mind, that your fairy tale has any reality.

I understand you have been brainwashed for some time, but even you must admit you are not the smartest person on the planet.   Cool


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August 30, 2017, 01:55:09 AM
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the chicken came first, because God created it. God created all of the animals and one of them was the chicken. There couldn't be an egg until there was a chicken to create an egg. Even believing evolution, there would still have to be a chicken before there could be an egg.

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August 30, 2017, 02:32:20 AM
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So far every person has voted for the egg, or invoked a fairy tale.

No one can explain how the chicken would come first.

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Even believing evolution, there would still have to be a chicken before there could be an egg.

You don't have a clue about evolution.  Where would the chicken come from without an egg, in evolution?

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August 30, 2017, 09:35:20 AM
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According to google eggs come first , I graduated with the help of google so I trust google's answer!
End of the debate egg came first
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September 04, 2017, 05:46:35 PM
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This age-old question really has a simple answer. Attempts to answer it, however, and attempts to get around implications of the simple answer are often quite convoluted.

What do you think about it?
I am convinced that the chickens are ahead of the eggs, God created living things earlier than his descendants, such as Adam and Eve who later gave birth to their offspring, the chicken lay eggs so as to produce the next chicken offspring.
God made everything's Perfect, which means If God made Man He also also created Man's partner which is Eve. Same thing with the other creatures, Therefore, chicken made first than eggs because chicken has a partner which is Hen Cheesy

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September 04, 2017, 05:56:27 PM
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^^^ In addition, it doesn't make sense for God to make the egg first. There would be nothing to raise the new chick that hatched out. God made the chickens first, and probably several of them at the same time.

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September 04, 2017, 07:25:47 PM
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First place, chicken or egg? chicken
But where did the chicken come from?
Some theories say, the ancestors of chickens created the eggs of the age of Dinosaurs.
"Our discovery is very potential because the eggshell is formed from many small crystals.we can use this information to find out how to create and destroy other crystal structures. "
For example, to remove the crust on the kettles or pipes. The study also has medical implications.
"Because our bodies use the same method to make teeth and bones, we can learn more about how to rebuild human bones."

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September 04, 2017, 07:50:58 PM
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^^^ In addition, it doesn't make sense for God to make the egg first. There would be nothing to raise the new chick that hatched out. God made the chickens first, and probably several of them at the same time.

Your fairy tale didn't make the egg first.

Nature did.

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September 05, 2017, 04:33:00 AM
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Chicken. Because God creates animals first, right?
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September 05, 2017, 04:36:55 AM
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Chicken. Because God creates animals first, right?


Without referring to a fairy tale, explain how a chicken could be born without an egg?

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September 05, 2017, 04:42:41 AM
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This age-old question really has a simple answer. Attempts to answer it, however, and attempts to get around implications of the simple answer are often quite convoluted.

What do you think about it?

Of course it's the chicken that came first.  It's just what I believe in.  Then egg comes afterwards.
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September 05, 2017, 04:44:46 AM
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This age-old question really has a simple answer. Attempts to answer it, however, and attempts to get around implications of the simple answer are often quite convoluted.

What do you think about it?

Of course it's the chicken that came first.  It's just what I believe in.  Then egg comes afterwards.

Then explain how a chicken was born without an egg?

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September 05, 2017, 04:55:35 AM
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This age-old question really has a simple answer. Attempts to answer it, however, and attempts to get around implications of the simple answer are often quite convoluted.

What do you think about it?

Of course it's the chicken that came first.  It's just what I believe in.  Then egg comes afterwards.

Then explain how a chicken was born without an egg?

To be honest I don't know either.  All I know is that chicken came first. Maybe the eggs will not hatch without the hen way back from the existence of living things in this world.
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September 05, 2017, 05:01:08 AM
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To be honest I don't know either.

We have scientific proof that the egg came first.  Educate yourself, and then you WILL know.   Wink

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September 05, 2017, 05:20:23 AM
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To be honest I don't know either.

We have scientific proof that the egg came first.  Educate yourself, and then you WILL know.   Wink

Okay thanks I will.  Wink
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September 05, 2017, 05:21:28 AM
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To be honest I don't know either.

We have scientific proof that the egg came first.  Educate yourself, and then you WILL know.   Wink

Okay thanks I will.  Wink

It is refreshing to see a non-brainwashed response.  Smiley


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