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August 14, 2017, 05:14:33 PM
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I've used https://shapeshift.io/ to convert BTC to ETH. Very easy. I just heard about https://evercoin.com/ this morning. Anyone used both? If so, what are your thoughts?
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August 14, 2017, 05:51:46 PM
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Did a bit of research on evercoin.com:
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Domain:evercoin.com
Registrar:GODADDY.COM, LLC
Registration Date:2012-10-28
Expiration Date:2017-10-28
Updated Date:2016-08-14
Name:Jason Smit
Registered since 2012, but I could barely see any results or reviews about evercoin.com. So it's either a new website with an old domain, a very unpopular exchange site, or a scam. I'm not saying it's a scam, but it probably is and I would rather stay away from it just to be safe. If you don't have any issues with shapeshift, then I suggest sticking with it. A good alternative would be changelly.com

I also found a thread about evercoin here on bitcointalk. Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2070360.0
Looks like the creator of that topic might probably be the owner of evercoin just subtly advertising the website.

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August 14, 2017, 06:01:52 PM
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I've used https://shapeshift.io/ to convert BTC to ETH. Very easy. I just heard about https://evercoin.com/ this morning. Anyone used both? If so, what are your thoughts?
Never used evercoin, actually this is the first time i'm reading/hearing about evercoin. shapeshift is best atm, they have a lot of alts to exchange between whereas evercoin has only few.

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August 14, 2017, 06:06:11 PM
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They use the name Jason Smit for their whois information, but he's not mentioned in the "team" on the website.  While the team look like they have done the things they claim on the website, I don't think that the things they've done are that significant and it's always possible that their names were abused to promote the service.

It's unusual for a dedicated company to allow a domain to get within 2 months of expiry without renewing - they would very easily pay for the extra time.  By comparison, shapeshift.io expires in 2019 instead.

Anyway, debates about whether they're legitimate are irrelevant.  Shapeshift.io is quite a good service in my opinion, so I'm happy using that rather than dealing with less known services that do the same thing.
shapeshift is best atm, they have a lot of alts to exchange between
Shapeshift only have a few relevant ones.

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August 14, 2017, 06:08:37 PM
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August 14, 2017, 06:09:56 PM
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Evercoin is a really new exchange that started 1 or 2 weeks ago so you are not going to find a review easily. The domain has been created back in 2012 but before that evercoin was (I suppose) a solution software for accounting
view-source:http://web.archive.org/web/20140128001853/http://evercoin.com:80/
They maybe have decided to recycle their domain name to create this project as the name has "coin" in it

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August 14, 2017, 06:35:27 PM
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I have not heard of either of these coins, however I can offer you some advice.

When you look into a new coin you must do lots, and lots, and lots of research. You cannot just buy them without knowing everything about it first, otherwise you will run into ICO scams and pump-and-dump premined garbage "crapcoins". I just read about a guy yesterday that invested $1,600,000 into Bitcoin a couple months ago (he bought 600 Bitcoin in total) and he already lost 400 Bitcoins... I am not kidding. Guess what happened? He bought tons of altcoins because they were going up and he thought it would continue. Well, it didn't and now Bitcoin has gone up to twice what it was when he first got in and all of his investment is still in altcoins.

The moral of the story? Altcoins can be great, but many are scams so be careful and do your research!



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August 14, 2017, 06:42:07 PM
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I have not heard of either of these coins, however I can offer you some advice.

When you look into a new coin you must do lots, and lots, and lots of research. You cannot just buy them without knowing everything about it first, otherwise you will run into ICO scams and pump-and-dump premined garbage "crapcoins". I just read about a guy yesterday that invested $1,600,000 into Bitcoin a couple months ago (he bought 600 Bitcoin in total) and he already lost 400 Bitcoins... I am not kidding. Guess what happened? He bought tons of altcoins because they were going up and he thought it would continue. Well, it didn't and now Bitcoin has gone up to twice what it was when he first got in and all of his investment is still in altcoins.

The moral of the story? Altcoins can be great, but many are scams so be careful and do your research!
ROFL. Talk about someone who is just lurking around the forum spamming posts without even reading what is being discussed. This kind of people shouldn't be allowed to spam on behalf of any signature campaign.

Neither ShapeShift or Evercoin are altcoins. They are EXCHANGES. Maybe you should try a little bit next time.

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August 15, 2017, 06:42:37 AM
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Hi everyone.

I am Miko from Evercoin and I'm happy to answer your questions.

The People Behind EverCoin

I'm happy to see people on this board looking at our service with suspicion, this is normal and the community needs to protect itself from scammers. We do show our own faces and linkedin profiles on the front page of our exchange. Yes, it is possible that people are just using the identities of others. We are obviously not so prominent or famous but I do have a number of fairly prominent people in crypto who could vouch for us or who have met us including general partners at Pantera Capital, Jackson Palmer, originator of Dogecoin, Robert CEO of ZenCash, Zooko from Zcash and many others. I know these aren't necessarily the gods of crypto like Vitalik Buterin, but I havent met him so he can't say if I'm a real person or not. I am one of the organizers of the SF Advanced Crypto Asset Trading group and Crypto Underground meetup, so 3500 people in that community know who I am at some level. Anyhow, I welcome the suspicion, I hate scammers as much as anyone and feel like everyone who asks you to "send bitcoin to this address" deserves to be checked out. I've been in Silicon Valley for 25 years working in tech.

Check out our Linkedin here
Miko (me) https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikomatsumura/
Talip's linkedin is here https://www.linkedin.com/in/talipozturk/
Yasin's https://www.linkedin.com/in/yasin-tamer/
Ahmed's https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmet-alptekin/
Ismael's https://www.linkedin.com/in/ismaelkose/

Talip created the open source project Hazelcast. https://github.com/hazelcast/hazelcast a github based Apache open source licensed project with over 24,000 commits and 143 committers.

Evercoin Domain Name
Let me explain the domain name. We originally launched under the name "Hazelcoin" because the founder Talip Ozturk previously created the open source project Hazelcast. We decided that this was not a great name for us, so we did some searching for a good name.

We ended up liking the name "Evercoin" because we feel like there are too many people in this space thinking short-term. We would like to create a built-to-last company and service. So "Ever" is a nice feel, like forever feeling, and trustworthy, which we feel is important. The domain was for sale on Sedo.com and we purchased the domain through them. So the domain existed in the past, but it was for sale. We liked the fact that the domain ended in "coin".

Honestly, we are a BRAND NEW service, so there are very few reviews.
Here is us on Product Hunt
https://www.producthunt.com/posts/evercoin
Here is our Blog
https://blog.evercoin.com/

We need to get more reviews. it will take time to become a trusted and reliable member of this community, we get it. We will keep working hard to earn your trust.

If you want to see our offices, this is what it looks like:
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*5NMG03OXtNCUzXnKYjQr-g.jpeg for some reason this image isnt embedding... click if you want please.


Meet us better on this blog post
https://blog.evercoin.com/meet-evercoin-exchange-4506f8975459

Happy to answer any other questions you all may have.

How to start
As with any crypto service, start small. Just try a very small transaction to see how the system behaves. It's a fully functional system, so you'll immediately get the feeling of that. And yes, do your homework.



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August 15, 2017, 07:54:28 AM
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Hello everyone, this is Talip, co-founder of Evercoin.

I certainly know and understand that there is a big trust issue in the cryptocurrency world. We should all be a little skeptical every service or an offer. It is our job to gain your trust.

For the domain:
Please visit https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?domain=evercoin.com
And you will see that it was updated on 2017-07-25.. couple of days later we moved from Hazelcoin to Evercoin. We love our new name. We use Google as the domain registry and AWS as the DNS because entire system runs on Amazon AWS.

The cryptocurrency is changing the world significantly and there is so much to do. For us Evercoin is a foundation to build significantly bigger things. I am a product guy with pretty good technical background (I built a distributed in-memory database, http://hazelcast.com) and Evercoin allows me to play with so many new things in this new crypto world from protocols to ICOs to wallets to anything related to blockchain. I am super excited about the possibilities. So what you are seeing is just a beginning, a good one.

Allow us to serve you at evercoin.com. Tell us how we can be better. Reach out to us at the chat window on the page or email me at talip@evercoin.com or call/text me at +1.650.223.3602 (my personal mobile number, please be mindful of the timezone.. I live in California). Or come to our office at 4701 Patrick Henry Drive #23 Santa Clara CA 95054. Give us a chance to amaze you.
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This is Talip again. I just made the evercoin.com domain registration info public ( and will stay public for a few days only).

https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?domain=evercoin.com

The phone number on the domain is my mobile number and the address is my home address. Now you know how to find me. Stop by for a coffee.
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August 15, 2017, 10:40:29 AM
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Did a bit of research on evercoin.com:
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Domain:evercoin.com
Registrar:GODADDY.COM, LLC
Registration Date:2012-10-28
Expiration Date:2017-10-28
Updated Date:2016-08-14
Name:Jason Smit
Registered since 2012, but I could barely see any results or reviews about evercoin.com. So it's either a new website with an old domain, a very unpopular exchange site, or a scam. I'm not saying it's a scam, but it probably is and I would rather stay away from it just to be safe. If you don't have any issues with shapeshift, then I suggest sticking with it. A good alternative would be changelly.com

I also found a thread about evercoin here on bitcointalk. Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2070360.0
Looks like the creator of that topic might probably be the owner of evercoin just subtly advertising the website.
Well suggested.! Why would use other services if theres already one who did provide the services that you do seek? If Shapeshift do the job well then thinking of on other service wont really be needed at all but if you are really curios then its not bad to use and try but be ready on losing money if things go on opposite ways.I didn't heard about evercoin before if theres shapeshift why would use evercoin which we know isn't too popular or even didn't heard too much by the community.



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August 15, 2017, 10:52:08 AM
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Did a bit of research on evercoin.com:
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Domain:evercoin.com
Registrar:GODADDY.COM, LLC
Registration Date:2012-10-28
Expiration Date:2017-10-28
Updated Date:2016-08-14
Name:Jason Smit
Registered since 2012, but I could barely see any results or reviews about evercoin.com. So it's either a new website with an old domain, a very unpopular exchange site, or a scam. I'm not saying it's a scam, but it probably is and I would rather stay away from it just to be safe. If you don't have any issues with shapeshift, then I suggest sticking with it. A good alternative would be changelly.com

I also found a thread about evercoin here on bitcointalk. Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2070360.0
Looks like the creator of that topic might probably be the owner of evercoin just subtly advertising the website.
Well suggested.! Why would use other services if theres already one who did provide the services that you do seek? If Shapeshift do the job well then thinking of on other service wont really be needed at all but if you are really curios then its not bad to use and try but be ready on losing money if things go on opposite ways.I didn't heard about evercoin before if theres shapeshift why would use evercoin which we know isn't too popular or even didn't heard too much by the community.

And also shapeshift is rather good on delivering some good service in cryptoworld aswell as I would trust those new name who's came out from nowhere and its been suggested to anyone to not experiment nor be appealed for those new comers in this kind of indsutry since we might gonna lose our money for those new sites build here.


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I have used shapeshift many times before so I can say they are trusted and you can use them without worrying about anything. I think evercoin is quite new in business so using them might involve some risk. There are also many other trusted alternative to shapeshift like changelly and changer.com, its better to only use some well established exchange platform than evercoin like new one.

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August 15, 2017, 02:25:24 PM
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ShapeShift is obviously the more trusted one of the two, use that for big or important amounts and avoid Evercoin.
If you want to give Evercoin a chance (or multiple ones) use small amounts that you can afford to lose. They seem honest but they're brand new and I don't see why I would use them over ShapeShift right now.

   
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August 15, 2017, 06:02:19 PM
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This is the first time I have heard of any site other than shapeshift. I knew that there was one other side out there that did basically the same thing but their fees were so exuberant that it wasn't even worth it. And that is not the site you just mentioned. Since I've never touched evercoin, I will tell you about the few experiences I had with shapeshift, it was pretty fast for the service that it is performing gamma keep in mind that it is matching transactions for two different ends and two different block chains. Most of the time it was done in less than an hour. Most of the time it was actually done in less than 20 minutes.

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August 15, 2017, 06:16:56 PM
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Thanks @mikojava & @talip_ozturk for the explanation. You know people are sceptic when a new service is coming online, especially in the crypto world. But we appreciate that you take your time to come here to turn on the light. Good luck with Evercoin

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August 17, 2017, 03:52:55 PM
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I don't remember why I needed this service but I am glad it was there when I did need it. However, the site surely knows that it is the end of the line for some people and the fees are very high. Lastly, when you're putting together your transaction you will see a minimum amount for the deposit. Stick to that. Anything that comes in under that minimum is either kept by the company or is lost somewhere in the system.

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August 20, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
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Thanks miko and talip for introducing yourself and being up front with the BitcoinTalk community. The next time I need to make a small exchange, I'll definitely take a look at Evercoin.
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