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August 19, 2017, 11:30:22 PM
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Let's see, anyone who invest in the stock market made 10% annually this year...

Anyone who invested in Bitcoin made... ahem, 100%.

Yes, thos numbers are real in case anyone is reading this in the future. Bitcoin rose 100% (I mean 100% ROI) in only one year. That is equivalent to 10 years of investing in the stock market.
I think you should be starting to count the returns made starting at the first of January this year, which will obviously show a massive increase of over 300%.

That being said, I think the standards of people investing in stocks and Bitcoin are quite different. In terms of stocks, an annual return of 10% is quite a decent achievement.

If you look at Bitcoin, then people will be heavily disappointed if they ended up making just 10% in annual profits ~ people in the Bitcoin world are spoiled with massive returns.

For me investing in stock market is very difficult and analysing stock market is not possible for an ordinary person. We need to take some experience from any experts then only we can make a profit. But to make minimum 10% profit, we need to wait for a long time. Bitcoin is not like that within just 1 month we can make 50% profit or 100% profit. 
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August 19, 2017, 11:37:36 PM
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Yezzir, I do both.  More so the stock market, but I follow crypto like a mad fiend.
Safe?  The stock market, but only if you pick the right stocks.  Micro cap companies
and ones that aren't traded on the big exchanges can get you into trouble and are
exceedingly risky.  Then again, the large cap stocks probably won't give you as
great a return.

Crypto is about as risky as it gets.  But you have the potential to make a lot of money
very quickly.  I say choose wisely only after doing a lot of research.  Even then you could
lose it all in a heartbeat.
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August 20, 2017, 12:26:23 AM
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I think Bitcoin and Altcoins are the best investments they can make you get high profits, and the stock market's investment profits are very stable, up to 10% of the profits a year. Grin
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August 20, 2017, 01:04:23 AM
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Looking at 5 years, and using the S&P 500 as a benchmark, the stock market is up to $2425 from $1411 in 2012.  11% a year, on average.

During that time frame, Bitcoin went from about $7 to $4100.  258% a year, on average.

Sadly, I missed the boat and didn't start getting into Bitcoin and Altcoins unit this year.  Let's hope for another 10 years like the last.

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August 20, 2017, 01:34:42 AM
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Hi traders!
Does somebody here do trading in stock market and also trading in bitcoin? Which is more profitable and safe?
Thanks ahead!

I would think that the stock market and bitcoin are 2 different things, at least from a certain perspective.
While they may both be classified as investments or trading, bitcoin is definitely the long term option. The best way to maximise your BTC profits is to hold onto your coins for as long as you can, withdrawing little to nothing in the process of doing so.
The stock market is much riskier and is more drastic. It can be subject to change by manipulation quite easily and / or fraud. It is much riskier in my opinion, but I may be wrong.
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August 20, 2017, 03:13:46 AM
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Hi traders!
Does somebody here do trading in stock market and also trading in bitcoin? Which is more profitable and safe?
Thanks ahead!

In terms of profit, bitcoin is profitable than stock market because the movement in stocks is slow compared to bitcoin has a fluctuating price which can be an advantage or disadvantage to bitcoin but if you have strategy and plan to counter it then you will still be profitable. Profit is slow moving in stocks especially if you only have small amount of capital but if you have small capital in bitcoin then you can still have big profits because of the volatile price.

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August 20, 2017, 06:23:37 AM
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Hi traders!
Does somebody here do trading in stock market and also trading in bitcoin? Which is more profitable and safe?
Thanks ahead!

In terms of profit, bitcoin is profitable than stock market because the movement in stocks is slow compared to bitcoin has a fluctuating price which can be an advantage or disadvantage to bitcoin but if you have strategy and plan to counter it then you will still be profitable. Profit is slow moving in stocks especially if you only have small amount of capital but if you have small capital in bitcoin then you can still have big profits because of the volatile price.
They have both advantage and disadvantage because it always depends on the investor if what he prefer a slowly but surely investment or a fast but a high risk investment. If you were going to ask me on what i will choose between those two, i will invest in bitcoin because it is faster than stock market and it is maybe a higher risk but i can manage those risks by consistently studying the market.
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August 20, 2017, 07:08:55 AM
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when speaking of investing between stock market vs bitcoin is quite similar when you are planning it to hold for a long time the result is similar the profit in stock market depends on the companies you are going to invest some are low gainer and some are fast but bitcoin is gaining exponentially every year so it is predictable for a long period of time.for a short term trader bitcoin is very volatile.bitcoin inflation is predictable because it is partly political nowadays.
I don’t think so stock market and bitcoins are really same, they may resemble up to some extent.

Yeah, in stock market, you buy shares of the companies that according to you have potential of ruling the market in coming day whereas in bitcoins, the all bitcoin investors are damn sure that bitcoins are definitely going to produce large profits. I prefer investing into bitcoins than in stock market.
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August 20, 2017, 07:14:49 AM
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Both are profitable but I choose investing in bitcoin , hold some BTC and will get good return in the end , in stock we should have to be good in market prediction , u can earn big but may be u loose a lot in the end.
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August 20, 2017, 07:18:57 AM
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If under Bitcoin investing you mean some real actions (not just buying BTC and forgeting about it for some years) like cryptotrading or ICO. Then bitcoin is more profitable but stock market is more stable and have more rules that sometimes can help you to get more stable income. But also a huge advantage of crypto is that it have no borders and everyone in every country can be a part of it.
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August 20, 2017, 07:21:58 AM
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All investments are a potential profits vs risk calculation. Stocks are pieces of a company which have an underlying value. It owns IP, buildings, machinery etc. On the other hand, If you believe that bitcoin is going to change the world or believe a lot of people will believe this  Wink  then it could be an attractive investment.
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August 20, 2017, 07:32:02 AM
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Hi traders!
Does somebody here do trading in stock market and also trading in bitcoin? Which is more profitable and safe?
Thanks ahead!
Obviously Bitcoin.The reason would be that stock market is like gambling and you need to be way too careful and smart. Also stock markets are only useful to experts and not random people.Its one of the tricks played by smart people to get money which would attract normal people and the people will tend to make a terrible mistake. Bitcoin is any day safer because it won't result in heavy loss all the time,but stock market its possible every time, if you dont have proper expertise,then you are just donating your money to people smarter than you in the form of losing.

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August 20, 2017, 03:29:22 PM
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I think Bitcoin gives you greater chance of a very high potential profits within no time but you can not expect such a high return in stock market. The average growth rate of stock market is below 8 percent in most of the countries.
I also thought the stock market and bitcoin also have in common that is when selling it can gain from the purchase price. but the stock market is defined in the form of securities that are traded in the market selling in the capital in which one holds the shares will get dividends and profits from selling shares is higher than the purchase price. While the unit price is influenced by the bitcoin demend circulating in public.
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August 20, 2017, 04:30:24 PM
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Let's see, anyone who invest in the stock market made 10% annually this year...

Anyone who invested in Bitcoin made... ahem, 100%.

Yes, thos numbers are real in case anyone is reading this in the future. Bitcoin rose 100% (I mean 100% ROI) in only one year. That is equivalent to 10 years of investing in the stock market.

The main reason why that happen is because of the peculiarity of bitcoin which include among other reasons such as its still an emerging currency that makes the volatility so high compared to stocks of companies another is the fact that bitcoin trading is basically a free market where the no regulation of any knid whatsoever which is very much in excess in the case of stock market.
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August 23, 2017, 12:52:56 PM
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The stock market is better than the bitcoin market in the sense that the stock market is safer and not as volatile as the bitcoin market. The stock market is for patient investors who are ready to wait years and months and be assured that the market won’t crash wholly in a day.
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August 27, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
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I want to make it clear that none of this is meant to be investment advice in any capacity.

I love and am involved in the stock market. But bitcoin and the stock market are two very different entities.

You can take positions in the stock market that can be very slow and conservative - such as broad-based exchange traded funds (ETFs) that follow indexes or entire sectors. Or you can invest in a handful of major blue-chip companies (like Microsoft, Apple, Boeing, etc.) or some smaller companies that have more room to grow. Or anything in between, there are a ton of different approaches and combinations that you can take.

Whereas with bitcoin, you can only hold bitcoin. Of course there are other cryptos, but if we are discussing just bitcoin then that is all that you can invest in.

And with bitcoin you are completely subject to the movements of bitcoin. Whereas if you had different cryptos then you can be diversified.

But I think that cryptos are relatively correlated to each other (correct me if I am wrong) - whereas with other stocks you can look into different sectors or stocks that are not as correlated.

They are two very different ways to invest.




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August 27, 2017, 01:22:29 AM
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The stock market is better than the bitcoin market in the sense that the stock market is safer and not as volatile as the bitcoin market. The stock market is for patient investors who are ready to wait years and months and be assured that the market won’t crash wholly in a day.

That's not entirely true. You might be looking at less volatile indexes or funds, or maybe blue chip stocks. But stocks in the tech sector can be particularly volatile. And over-the-counter stocks can bring especially big gains and losses. That's one of the reasons that bitcoin was spoken of as a "penny stock" for so long: it was priced low and extremely volatile. That's originally why I got involved with bitcoin, just like I got involved with penny stocks....for the 10x-20x whale trades that make all the chart-watching worth it.

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August 27, 2017, 01:44:50 AM
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It seems that there are a lot of comparisons of the stock market to Bitcoin, but saying the 'market' gained 10% per years while Bitcoin gained X% doesn't really seem like a fair comparison. There are plenty of stocks that gains 100's of % points in a very short time, but they are risky, just like cryptocurrencies. All you need to do is go ready something like r/WallStreetBets to see that its possible to gain and lose a very large amount of money very quickly, just like with crypto.

tl;dr, there is more to the stock market than blue chip stocks and S&P index funds, just like theres more to crypto than just Bitcoin.

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August 27, 2017, 02:40:51 AM
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I think Bitcoin and Altcoins are the best investments they can make you get high profits, and the stock market's investment profits are very stable, up to 10% of the profits a year. Grin

Exactly, the stock market is less volatile and can be considered less risky unlike Bitcoin which is very volatile and can make you loose your investments in a instance if you don't set the right parameters in place.
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August 27, 2017, 03:12:21 AM
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The companies that takes the risk with others money are mooving into bitcoin and crypto in the general, there is no way to avoid it, stock market arent able to make 3x its value into few months. Crypto potencial is huge, and any investment can get easy reach 3-20x, soo at this stage im pretty sure we will see more volatilaty over bitcoin since more money is coming.
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