[ANN] | PARAGON | Revolutionizing the Cannabis Industry |

[IAmNotATroll]

This always seemed like a scam
Heavy amounts of money on marketing and advertising, shady connections and a gangsta rapper and ex model to sell it.

Seriously question though
At any point has Paragon posted on this chat or twitter or anything after the ico finished?

If they haven't then you know what that means
Cut your losses and accept that you got got

From what i see the only update from Paragon is that they are spending your money on a nice new fancy office and to f**k you in the a**hole even harder for laughs they have the audacity to make you pay in paragon coin just to vote on where there new office is going to be.

In a small way i respect them for their balls

cant believe there intention was to raise 100 Million dollars

But yea, have they said anything at all since ICO ended apart from buying a new office?

Maybe they got really high and lost motivation

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[DeathGrasp]

This always seemed like a scam
Heavy amounts of money on marketing and advertising, shady connections and a gangsta rapper and ex model to sell it.

Seriously question though
At any point has Paragon posted on this chat or twitter or anything after the ico finished?

If they haven't then you know what that means
Cut your losses and accept that you got got

From what i see the only update from Paragon is that they are spending your money on a nice new fancy office and to f**k you in the a**hole even harder for laughs they have the audacity to make you pay in paragon coin just to vote on where there new office is going to be.

In a small way i respect them for their balls

cant believe there intention was to raise 100 Million dollars

But yea, have they said anything at all since ICO ended apart from buying a new office?

Maybe they got really high and lost motivation

Did u saw WP? What just they must do now? Construction PRG infrastructure is not a 5 minute thing... Give them 3 month min, then we look what they did do...

[DXB2017]

I am sure paragon will go forward since they list it to livecoin.net ! Its not free btw!

[Wussel]

Okay, I just made an account on Bitcointalk because I truly want to know something here:

What in the world made you guys invest in a project that had so many red flags on it that Reddit and Biz were literally filing in Fraud reports to the US government regarding Paragon?

This was the most obvious scam I have ever seen in my two years in crypto now (well that and BitPetite).

1 - They were actively moderating Reddit, massively downvoting any critique on Para.
2 - There ICO system was "let's massively increase the price DURING the ICO so that on market entrance there will be a massive dump"
3 - They bought 200K Facebook likes from Bangladesh
4 - Their CEO is a female model (I mean cmon...cmon...do I really have to say it) that stars in a Russian soft porn music video while potentially being high
5 - They magically were funded, what was it like 80M in the pre-ICO? Right...No one took a second to sit down and think where that money came from and whether it was actually real?
6 - People in their Telegram asking questions were banned. I personally joined, asked them: "I just found out you guys bought FB likes from Bangladesh. Why did you do that?" Minute later I was banned.
7 - They lied about being affiliated with IOTA
8 - 100

This list goes on and on and was all known during the ICO and there were a ton of Reddit posts discussing how scammy the project was and the many many red flags, and yet a ton of people bought in, and still people here in this thread "believe" in the project.

I am missing something here? I mean am I wrong?

[DeathGrasp]

Okay, I just made an account on Bitcointalk because I truly want to know something here:

What in the world made you guys invest in a project that had so many red flags on it that Reddit and Biz were literally filing in Fraud reports to the US government regarding Paragon?

This was the most obvious scam I have ever seen in my two years in crypto now (well that and BitPetite).

1 - They were actively moderating Reddit, massively downvoting any critique on Para.
2 - There ICO system was "let's massively increase the price DURING the ICO so that on market entrance there will be a massive dump"
3 - They bought 200K Facebook likes from Bangladesh
4 - Their CEO is a female model (I mean cmon...cmon...do I really have to say it) that stars in a Russian soft porn music video while potentially being high
5 - They magically were funded, what was it like 80M in the pre-ICO? Right...No one took a second to sit down and think where that money came from and whether it was actually real?
6 - People in their Telegram asking questions were banned. I personally joined, asked them: "I just found out you guys bought FB likes from Bangladesh. Why did you do that?" Minute later I was banned.
7 - They lied about being affiliated with IOTA
8 - 100

This list goes on and on and was all known during the ICO and there were a ton of Reddit posts discussing how scammy the project was and the many many red flags, and yet a ton of people bought in, and still people here in this thread "believe" in the project.

I am missing something here? I mean am I wrong?

Based on my experience:
1) when someone are constantly calling you a liar, you start to react less restrained ...
2) the way of promotion of the project can be different, you can buy FB likes, and you can advertise on TV, in both cases you pay money, in both cases have an impact on the human consciousness ... but am I not right if I say that the success of the project largely depends on the popularity of the project?
3) ICO is risky, I liked the idea of ​​the PARAGON project ... I was ready to lose my money, although I hope for the best...
4) I do not know is PRG scam or not, but I'm sure that if they really create an infrastructure, PRG will be polpular, and the project will be successful...

[Wussel]

Okay, I just made an account on Bitcointalk because I truly want to know something here:

What in the world made you guys invest in a project that had so many red flags on it that Reddit and Biz were literally filing in Fraud reports to the US government regarding Paragon?

This was the most obvious scam I have ever seen in my two years in crypto now (well that and BitPetite).

1 - They were actively moderating Reddit, massively downvoting any critique on Para.
2 - There ICO system was "let's massively increase the price DURING the ICO so that on market entrance there will be a massive dump"
3 - They bought 200K Facebook likes from Bangladesh
4 - Their CEO is a female model (I mean cmon...cmon...do I really have to say it) that stars in a Russian soft porn music video while potentially being high
5 - They magically were funded, what was it like 80M in the pre-ICO? Right...No one took a second to sit down and think where that money came from and whether it was actually real?
6 - People in their Telegram asking questions were banned. I personally joined, asked them: "I just found out you guys bought FB likes from Bangladesh. Why did you do that?" Minute later I was banned.
7 - They lied about being affiliated with IOTA
8 - 100

This list goes on and on and was all known during the ICO and there were a ton of Reddit posts discussing how scammy the project was and the many many red flags, and yet a ton of people bought in, and still people here in this thread "believe" in the project.

I am missing something here? I mean am I wrong?

Based on my experience:
1) when someone are constantly calling you a liar, you start to react less restrained ...
2) the way of promotion of the project can be different, you can buy FB likes, and you can advertise on TV, in both cases you pay money, in both cases have an impact on the human consciousness ... but am I not right if I say that the success of the project largely depends on the popularity of the project?
3) ICO is risky, I liked the idea of ​​the PARAGON project ... I was ready to lose my money, although I hope for the best...
4) I do not know is PRG scam or not, but I'm sure that if they really create an infrastructure, PRG will be polpular, and the project will be successful...

I appreciate your reply but this is a very "easy way out" and I don't want to sound rude but I have the feeling this is your first ICO or something. Correct me if I am wrong.

First of all, I fully agree with constantly calling someone a liar is not the best course of action if you want to proof that person is a liar, however in this case there was a ton of evidence. If a project is called a scam (like what happens all the time) and there is nothing to back this up then obviously someone is fudding. In Paragon's case however, everything that was said had backing behind it, visual proof.

Secondly, buying and using marketing material is something entirely else than buying FB likes. In the first case you are simply marketing in the second case you are committing fraud, not in a legal sense but more in an ethical sense. This is not a good thing for the team's credibility which was discussed everywhere.

Thirdly, yes ICOs are risky. Lost a ton of money already, but again this is completely off topic. Calling ICOs risky in general has nothing to do with all the red flags mentioned above.

Fourthly, see this is what I completely do not understand. You've probably read all the threads/articles discussing Paragon and firmly stating "STAY AWAY FROM THIS ONE". The price completely collapsed (as was expected), they completely fucked over their ICO investors and yet you keep believing in this project.

Now that I think about it I actually don't really know what to make of your comment. To me (and the general community) it is crystal clear that this is a BS project that fucks people over and yet you support it. I sincerely do not understand. Excuse me if a come over a bit too harsh but it just frustrates me.

[DXB2017]

I think paragon project will be ok even dome stuff not look ok for now like guy write.
Hope founders come here and explain.

[Twipple]

Okay, I just made an account on Bitcointalk because I truly want to know something here:


1 - They were actively moderating Reddit, massively downvoting any critique on Para.
2 - There ICO system was "let's massively increase the price DURING the ICO so that on market entrance there will be a massive dump"
3 - They bought 200K Facebook likes from Bangladesh
4 - Their CEO is a female model (I mean cmon...cmon...do I really have to say it) that stars in a Russian soft porn music video while potentially being high
5 - They magically were funded, what was it like 80M in the pre-ICO? Right...No one took a second to sit down and think where that money came from and whether it was actually real?
6 - People in their Telegram asking questions were banned. I personally joined, asked them: "I just found out you guys bought FB likes from Bangladesh. Why did you do that?" Minute later I was banned.

Been an early investor in the token sale. Here is what I have been noticing.

1. There were a few trolls that were attacking them and demanding money. They have been targeting paragon on there and is the reason why paragon has stopped replying and is no longer moderating their subreddit.

2. You do realize their team does not have access to the funds. Its all in the escrow and the tokens are not yet distributed to their team members.

3. Irrelevant. How do you know ? Seems like you are trying to troll or prove your point here.

4. Thats a racist and sexist comment. If you come here saying that, then you have already lost any stance against the project. You should be ashamed to even say that.

5. I had the same question, but they posted their escrow address a few days back which proved that its all legit.

6. Obviously. I would have done that too if I was them. Because you posted without any proof. From what I understand they have been under attack on their telegram and other groups and they have to take a strict action against baseless accusations.

[DXB2017]

Okay, I just made an account on Bitcointalk because I truly want to know something here:


1 - They were actively moderating Reddit, massively downvoting any critique on Para.
2 - There ICO system was "let's massively increase the price DURING the ICO so that on market entrance there will be a massive dump"
3 - They bought 200K Facebook likes from Bangladesh
4 - Their CEO is a female model (I mean cmon...cmon...do I really have to say it) that stars in a Russian soft porn music video while potentially being high
5 - They magically were funded, what was it like 80M in the pre-ICO? Right...No one took a second to sit down and think where that money came from and whether it was actually real?
6 - People in their Telegram asking questions were banned. I personally joined, asked them: "I just found out you guys bought FB likes from Bangladesh. Why did you do that?" Minute later I was banned.

Been an early investor in the token sale. Here is what I have been noticing.

1. There were a few trolls that were attacking them and demanding money. They have been targeting paragon on there and is the reason why paragon has stopped replying and is no longer moderating their subreddit.

2. You do realize their team does not have access to the funds. Its all in the escrow and the tokens are not yet distributed to their team members.

3. Irrelevant. How do you know ? Seems like you are trying to troll or prove your point here.

4. Thats a racist and sexist comment. If you come here saying that, then you have already lost any stance against the project. You should be ashamed to even say that.

5. I had the same question, but they posted their escrow address a few days back which proved that its all legit.

6. Obviously. I would have done that too if I was them. Because you posted without any proof. From what I understand they have been under attack on their telegram and other groups and they have to take a strict action against baseless accusations.

Amazing replay and thanks! Yeah i keep say Paragon can be huge!

[Zechis966]

Based on my experience:
1) when someone are constantly calling you a liar, you start to react less restrained ...
2) the way of promotion of the project can be different, you can buy FB likes, and you can advertise on TV, in both cases you pay money, in both cases have an impact on the human consciousness ... but am I not right if I say that the success of the project largely depends on the popularity of the project?
3) ICO is risky, I liked the idea of ​​the PARAGON project ... I was ready to lose my money, although I hope for the best...
4) I do not know is PRG scam or not, but I'm sure that if they really create an infrastructure, PRG will be polpular, and the project will be successful...

While I agree with the logic of the buying facebook likes, one (tv commercial) is overt and the other (bangladeshi like-farm) is covert...covert by nature draws distrust.

I was one of the few that didn't like the project, but invested anyway, because I always make it a point to invest a couple hundred in something I never would. First time I've had some sketchy feelings about what I did. I love MJ and want to see it deregulated, but this token was a cheap grab at a hot-ticket commodity. The true value of a token is based on it's utility...hence why, even if it's sustainable, bitcoin is in a huge speculative bubble. If PRG place is the only place that accepts PRG, and they only accept PRG...then they better damn well be a viable business. Not some hopeful hipster spot for the masses with aspergers.

I'm not trolling...I'm not saying it's impossible...I'm saying that when you factor in ALL of the data, as a betting man it seems pretty shady. Not saying it's a scam but it might be a fraudulent project where they never really had the skills nor possibly intention to take the project to global recognition.

I invested on the chance that the weed-hype would draw in investors...I was right. I thought it was going to be some dispensary or something...ok, douchey but money doesn't care if you're a douche in colorado. However more I see this is supposed to be sort of like a starbucks for marijuana?...where you pay to rent a booth that no one else can sit in if you want to?... some crap like that. No one seems to explain to all the 'trolls' wtf this project actually has that should dissuade their skepticism. They just say "give them time trolls" but has anyone actually explained to the plebs what the whitepaper says? And then argue the viability of what theyre proposing?

Just saying I don't care to read the white papers for my crap shoots...that's why it's craps. But damn from what I gather after reading it sounds like a system that wont really thrive in capitalist societies.... You guys understand that the whole premise is that they garner HUGE adoption which leads to people buying PRG to use in the stupid space... their reputation thus far all across the internet is horrible...   but forget all the trolls and shills alike, what kind of product could they come up with that would persuade people to buy their specific currency to use at said space?...

Unless the real world viability/utility is there, the price is only going to go up/down because of trading bots and the bag holders who try to play against them.

This girl is no Vitaly guys...

[Zechis966]

Been an early investor in the token sale. Here is what I have been noticing.

1. There were a few trolls that were attacking them and demanding money. They have been targeting paragon on there and is the reason why paragon has stopped replying and is no longer moderating their subreddit.

2. You do realize their team does not have access to the funds. Its all in the escrow and the tokens are not yet distributed to their team members.

3. Irrelevant. How do you know ? Seems like you are trying to troll or prove your point here.

4. Thats a racist and sexist comment. If you come here saying that, then you have already lost any stance against the project. You should be ashamed to even say that.

5. I had the same question, but they posted their escrow address a few days back which proved that its all legit.

6. Obviously. I would have done that too if I was them. Because you posted without any proof. From what I understand they have been under attack on their telegram and other groups and they have to take a strict action against baseless accusations.

You sound like a panty-twisted SJW.

It's not racist nor sexist. don't understand how you can construe that as racism.....unless you're joking. Oh my god my bad, you're joking. Sorry.

It's not sexist to call a spade a spade when her "counterparts" (you can't call them that with a straight face) in the crypto sphere are incredibly bright minded men and women. Not saying she can't be bright AND do what she does...but the old adage is right more often than wrong... If it walks like a duck...

Saying you would ban someone for that, even without proof...is straight up freaking retarded. You know how an intelligent person would handle an unfounded claim?... You have no proof, and it's nonsense anyway. Thank you.... You realize that people can keep posting but when they get ignored theyre defeated, no matter how many times they post. But when you ban them, you only validate people's concerns.


Also your response is so loaded with crap that I almost forgot to address your first point.... how is responding/moderating on a reddit leaving them open to be targeted?.... I just don't understand your logic.

Even if they WERE targeted, uhhh I thought they were tech wizards? Why the hell not just ignore the trolls and respond to the many (sorry, fools) who have serious questions/concerns?.... I'm telling you dude by banning that which you find distasteful you only empower it. I guess you never understood psychology...or you're too young and havn't explored your own mind yet.

I'm sorry man/woman (don't want to sound sexist) but my god your response is either golden trolling, or a perfectly sad example of why not to trust this project, if that's the same sentiment the rest of the believers have

[ico41]

Okay, I just made an account on Bitcointalk because I truly want to know something here:

What in the world made you guys invest in a project that had so many red flags on it that Reddit and Biz were literally filing in Fraud reports to the US government regarding Paragon?

This was the most obvious scam I have ever seen in my two years in crypto now (well that and BitPetite).

1 - They were actively moderating Reddit, massively downvoting any critique on Para.
2 - There ICO system was "let's massively increase the price DURING the ICO so that on market entrance there will be a massive dump"
3 - They bought 200K Facebook likes from Bangladesh
4 - Their CEO is a female model (I mean cmon...cmon...do I really have to say it) that stars in a Russian soft porn music video while potentially being high
5 - They magically were funded, what was it like 80M in the pre-ICO? Right...No one took a second to sit down and think where that money came from and whether it was actually real?
6 - People in their Telegram asking questions were banned. I personally joined, asked them: "I just found out you guys bought FB likes from Bangladesh. Why did you do that?" Minute later I was banned.
7 - They lied about being affiliated with IOTA
8 - 100

This list goes on and on and was all known during the ICO and there were a ton of Reddit posts discussing how scammy the project was and the many many red flags, and yet a ton of people bought in, and still people here in this thread "believe" in the project.

I am missing something here? I mean am I wrong?

Yeah, this was episode 3 of my podcast (ICO 41) and I had my doubts then ... still do, honestly.

[DXB2017]

I still think paragon project can be huge!

[Mandrag]

Paragon is a SCAM , get what ever you can and get out

CEO of paragon : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxZ1TBzv_SM&feature=youtu.be

Give her your money so she can buy Tesla and everything You wish to have and squirt all over it .

Enjoy the video and do research prior investing your money!

[BaNgTHai]

I dont understand why people are impatient. Paragon is a good project and get over all the troll posts.

[IAmNotATroll]

Have Paragon said anything yet since the ICO?
Apart from voting on what office they want to buy to smoke weed and snort coke in?

It seems like alot of denial here from ICO participants.
Not trying to be a c**t but these are the facts so far

Token has dropped from $1+ to 0.20
Paragon, Jessica and The Game have said nothing of Paragon on social media since ICO closed
No decent exchanges
Blocking and banning anyone with criticisms and never addressing said concerns.

People say this is a good project and will be huge
Name me one project where not only did it instantly drop but where the spokespersons and people used to market have said NOTHING since release.
No updates

You gave money to an ex model and a gangsta rapper and though nothing would go wrong

what could go right?

[Danccrpt]

Please look at all the shit people say about this team, its true.

The few good comments they got is from themself. They did this also at the ICO to hype themself.

Don't fall for this shit, don't be stupid. It's not working now and its never ever gonna work in the future.

[PalahniuKC]

Please look at all the shit people say about this team, its true.

The few good comments they got is from themself. They did this also at the ICO to hype themself.

Don't fall for this shit, don't be stupid. It's not working now and its never ever gonna work in the future.

Tottaly agree. It was a top team too marketing their ICO launch, to take the money and now they just fake to do something to avoid class action but the project is dead. The token was selling at 2.5$ at the end of the ICO, forget about it... Take your loss and try to invet it in new project to make some counter gain.

[Zechis966]

Okay, I just made an account on Bitcointalk because I truly want to know something here:

What in the world made you guys invest in a project that had so many red flags on it that Reddit and Biz were literally filing in Fraud reports to the US government regarding Paragon?

This was the most obvious scam I have ever seen in my two years in crypto now (well that and BitPetite).

1 - They were actively moderating Reddit, massively downvoting any critique on Para.
2 - There ICO system was "let's massively increase the price DURING the ICO so that on market entrance there will be a massive dump"
3 - They bought 200K Facebook likes from Bangladesh
4 - Their CEO is a female model (I mean cmon...cmon...do I really have to say it) that stars in a Russian soft porn music video while potentially being high
5 - They magically were funded, what was it like 80M in the pre-ICO? Right...No one took a second to sit down and think where that money came from and whether it was actually real?
6 - People in their Telegram asking questions were banned. I personally joined, asked them: "I just found out you guys bought FB likes from Bangladesh. Why did you do that?" Minute later I was banned.
7 - They lied about being affiliated with IOTA
8 - 100

This list goes on and on and was all known during the ICO and there were a ton of Reddit posts discussing how scammy the project was and the many many red flags, and yet a ton of people bought in, and still people here in this thread "believe" in the project.

I am missing something here? I mean am I wrong?

Yeah, this was episode 3 of my podcast (ICO 41) and I had my doubts then ... still do, honestly.

Look at SONM... not the strongest project as of now but it dealt with massive amounts of shit talking and fear and the whole time they just kept popping in to say "listen, we appreciate everyone who's standing with us, and we've already addressed the nay sayers. "

That little bit of effort kept people from panic selling...and they even offered refunds to preico participants who felt they had been screwed with the pricing.

This project I could give some slack to if they addressed shit instead of having shills come here going "I would've banned anyone talking shit too, sexists"

[DXB2017]

Csn somebody give here telegram url?