Minecache (OP)
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August 17, 2017, 07:35:23 PM |
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Anyone else sick and tired to their back teeth of hearing this phrase pumped out endlessly by the BCC/BCH trolls as they try to justify their sickcoin?
For any BCH troll here is the nub, you have no idea what Satoshis original vision is because you cannot understand his Bitcoin whitepaper.
Now piss off.
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hv_
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Clean Code and Scale
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August 17, 2017, 08:53:09 PM |
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I m sure with some max will you could read out suckwitt between the lines or satelitlayer or arghcash?
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Carpe diem - understand the White Paper and mine honest. Fix real world issues: Check out b-vote.com The simple way is the genius way - Satoshi's Rules: humana veris _
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craZyLovE0916
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August 17, 2017, 09:06:24 PM |
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Anyone else sick and tired to their back teeth of hearing this phrase pumped out endlessly by the BCC/BCH trolls as they try to justify their sickcoin?
For any BCH troll here is the nub, you have no idea what Satoshis original vision is because you cannot understand his Bitcoin whitepaper.
Now piss off.
PLUS ONE TO INFINITY AND BEYOND! lmao No one knows what Satoshi thinks anymore because he has not said anything in over 5 years. He disappeared in 2010.
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darkangel11
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Don't let others control your BTC -> self custody
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August 17, 2017, 09:34:53 PM |
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They're talking about free transactions as his idea that was forgotten, and I have to admit it would be a good thing to have. Will that make BCC beat BTC? No way! It's just a nice feature. Why do you want them to shut up? They'd like their coin to succeed, just like any other altcoin investor would.
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25hashcoin
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August 17, 2017, 09:47:28 PM |
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If you don't support the vision of Bitcoin then why the hell are you even here?
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Bitcoin - Peer to Peer Electronic CASH
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rizzlarolla
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August 17, 2017, 10:50:38 PM |
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I'm right, everyone else including satoshi is irrelevant. ftfy. Now piss off.
A new low even for you mineache.
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xskl0
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August 17, 2017, 11:09:52 PM |
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Maybe you sold your BCH and you are scared now. The rational scalation solution was simply increase block size. Segwit don't allow transactions with 0 fee for example. People don't want to pay to open a Lightning channel, they want cheap transactions and total control of their money. Instant transactions (offchain) are possible too with Bitcoin Cash so I'm sure that Bitcoin Segwit will fail.
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kokojie
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August 17, 2017, 11:11:40 PM |
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I don't think you understand, Satoshi's Bitcoin is the Bitcoin we signed up for, I was here, back in 2011 for a P2P Electronic Cash System, as titled by Satoshi's whitepaper. Not a BSegwit coin that will require 3rd party service and permission to transact. I can just use banks/paypal for that.
The blockchain is just a distributed database. Without Satoshi's original vision, it's no different from any other database, eg. a bank's database.
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yugyug
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August 17, 2017, 11:18:38 PM |
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this is what i get everyone wants a piece from mr. satoshi, a fork from a bitcoin core then try to claim that they are the real Satoshi's vision is like:(off/topic) splitting a religion such as a christian to a catholic that claiming they are a real religion. sorry about the world religion but it is just an example. anything that came from fork claiming they are better just like linux distros.
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pereira4
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August 17, 2017, 11:19:23 PM |
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Maybe you sold your BCH and you are scared now. The rational scalation solution was simply increase block size. Segwit don't allow transactions with 0 fee for example. People don't want to pay to open a Lightning channel, they want cheap transactions and total control of their money. Instant transactions (offchain) are possible too with Bitcoin Cash so I'm sure that Bitcoin Segwit will fail.
When will big blockers understand the fact that you can't have "total control of your money" when you are handling the full validating nodes into the hands of corporations that will be validating everything for you because the blocks are too big to do it yourself? BCash was DOA. They raised the blocksize limit and they can't even fill 1MB blocks because no one uses it, laughable. We don't need to rush any hardforks anytime soon, if you support a hardfork you will lose your money every time.
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eaLiTy
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August 17, 2017, 11:23:00 PM |
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Anyone else sick and tired to their back teeth of hearing this phrase pumped out endlessly by the BCC/BCH trolls as they try to justify their sickcoin?
For any BCH troll here is the nub, you have no idea what Satoshis original vision is because you cannot understand his Bitcoin whitepaper.
Now piss off.
There may be many trolls here when it comes to their preferred coins but lets say for argument sake,what does the white paper say about bitcoin, was he interested in an off chain upgrade or is he vocal about bigger blocks in the future,so what does the real version of the white paper according to you. What we see now is different ideas which would help bitcoin move forward without the help or supervision of the initial creator and so expect many different vision and developments.
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kokojie
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August 17, 2017, 11:24:30 PM |
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Maybe you sold your BCH and you are scared now. The rational scalation solution was simply increase block size. Segwit don't allow transactions with 0 fee for example. People don't want to pay to open a Lightning channel, they want cheap transactions and total control of their money. Instant transactions (offchain) are possible too with Bitcoin Cash so I'm sure that Bitcoin Segwit will fail.
When will big blockers understand the fact that you can't have "total control of your money" when you are handling the full validating nodes into the hands of corporations that will be validating everything for you because the blocks are too big to do it yourself? BCash was DOA. They raised the blocksize limit and they can't even fill 1MB blocks because no one uses it, laughable. We don't need to rush any hardforks anytime soon, if you support a hardfork you will lose your money every time. I don't understand, does corporations have some kind of magical hard drive that the regular user can't obtain? I have six 10TB drive sitting on my desk right now, I can run 500 redundant copies of Bitcoin blockchain on them. Why do I need corporation to run a node?
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cybersofts
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August 17, 2017, 11:26:13 PM |
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The satoshis original idea was for digital currency that is full decentralized, fast, secure with lower transaction fee... For me, i see nothing wrong with what other guys are doing which forking bitcoin or other cryptos. Everybody saw the opportunity in bitcoin and other cryptos, let everybody do what they want because there's enough space of all. Only the future can decide which coin is the best for the masses.
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xskl0
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August 18, 2017, 02:00:56 AM |
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I don't think you understand, Satoshi's Bitcoin is the Bitcoin we signed up for, I was here, back in 2011 for a P2P Electronic Cash System, as titled by Satoshi's whitepaper. Not a BSegwit coin that will require 3rd party service and permission to transact. I can just use banks/paypal for that.
The blockchain is just a distributed database. Without Satoshi's original vision, it's no different from any other database, eg. a bank's database.
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pereira4
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August 18, 2017, 04:13:15 PM |
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Maybe you sold your BCH and you are scared now. The rational scalation solution was simply increase block size. Segwit don't allow transactions with 0 fee for example. People don't want to pay to open a Lightning channel, they want cheap transactions and total control of their money. Instant transactions (offchain) are possible too with Bitcoin Cash so I'm sure that Bitcoin Segwit will fail.
When will big blockers understand the fact that you can't have "total control of your money" when you are handling the full validating nodes into the hands of corporations that will be validating everything for you because the blocks are too big to do it yourself? BCash was DOA. They raised the blocksize limit and they can't even fill 1MB blocks because no one uses it, laughable. We don't need to rush any hardforks anytime soon, if you support a hardfork you will lose your money every time. I don't understand, does corporations have some kind of magical hard drive that the regular user can't obtain? I have six 10TB drive sitting on my desk right now, I can run 500 redundant copies of Bitcoin blockchain on them. Why do I need corporation to run a node? It's not only about the storage, which would be growing exponentially and you would end up pissed off yourself eventually too, but about latency. Check this explanation of 3 minutes of why big blocks are stupid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2941&v=iFJ2MZ3KciQ
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kokojie
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August 19, 2017, 01:36:24 AM |
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Maybe you sold your BCH and you are scared now. The rational scalation solution was simply increase block size. Segwit don't allow transactions with 0 fee for example. People don't want to pay to open a Lightning channel, they want cheap transactions and total control of their money. Instant transactions (offchain) are possible too with Bitcoin Cash so I'm sure that Bitcoin Segwit will fail.
When will big blockers understand the fact that you can't have "total control of your money" when you are handling the full validating nodes into the hands of corporations that will be validating everything for you because the blocks are too big to do it yourself? BCash was DOA. They raised the blocksize limit and they can't even fill 1MB blocks because no one uses it, laughable. We don't need to rush any hardforks anytime soon, if you support a hardfork you will lose your money every time. I don't understand, does corporations have some kind of magical hard drive that the regular user can't obtain? I have six 10TB drive sitting on my desk right now, I can run 500 redundant copies of Bitcoin blockchain on them. Why do I need corporation to run a node? It's not only about the storage, which would be growing exponentially and you would end up pissed off yourself eventually too, but about latency. Check this explanation of 3 minutes of why big blocks are stupid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2941&v=iFJ2MZ3KciQExcept full 8MB blocks Bitcoin current exists and works just fine, kinda defeats his argument right there. I run an abc node for BCash, my node works just fine, why should I be pissed off again?
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error08
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August 19, 2017, 01:54:38 AM |
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Honestly, it doesn't matter what is the Satoshis original vision as he was disappeared long time ago and let it to core developers to handle bitcoin nodes. People don't care about original vision as bitcoin price is the best thing right now, and time will reveal the best coin among all of those coins, but bitcoin still far ahead from bitcoin cash or other altcoins. As long as people trust bitcoin and always use it, then it will always lead the market which the most important thing is usability.
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August 19, 2017, 03:07:47 AM |
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~ Except full 8MB blocks Bitcoin current exists and works just fine, kinda defeats his argument right there. I run an abc node for BCash, my node works just fine, why should I be pissed off again?
i think you need to check the blocks before saying things like this what exists are the blocks that are barely 100 kB and with any transaction inside. of course your node is just fine, it should be more than fine because you are currently running a node which has a ~2.25 GB smaller blockchain than bitcoin blockchain. let them mine full 8 MB blocks for a year then come back and let us see how your node is doing.
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
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August 19, 2017, 04:59:37 AM |
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Anyone else sick and tired to their back teeth of hearing this phrase pumped out endlessly by the BCC/BCH trolls as they try to justify their sickcoin?
For any BCH troll here is the nub, you have no idea what Satoshis original vision is because you cannot understand his Bitcoin whitepaper.
Now piss off.
What exactly do you think is difficult to understand about the whitepaper? Many of us have had years to read it, re-read it, study it, think about it...and its pretty short too. The only thing slightly complicated is the mathematical description of the probabilities, which quite frankly really are not necessary to decode.... because intuitively, everyone understands that the 51% hash power sooner or later becomes the longest chain. So, what's hard again??
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August 19, 2017, 08:18:24 AM |
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~ Except full 8MB blocks Bitcoin current exists and works just fine, kinda defeats his argument right there. I run an abc node for BCash, my node works just fine, why should I be pissed off again?
i think you need to check the blocks before saying things like this what exists are the blocks that are barely 100 kB and with any transaction inside. of course your node is just fine, it should be more than fine because you are currently running a node which has a ~2.25 GB smaller blockchain than bitcoin blockchain. let them mine full 8 MB blocks for a year then come back and let us see how your node is doing. Good point. I very much doubt it's going to be better than Bitcoin in any way and even if it proves to be fast and stable what's there to make people switch from widely accepted and known Bitcoin to some forked altcoin? They don't even have their own lightweight wallet but had to borrow electrum code. The price has gone up quite a bit in the last 2 days. Fanboys must be in heaven
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