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August 18, 2017, 07:34:38 PM
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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not

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August 18, 2017, 07:39:00 PM
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For investments I always read white paper and research the team and product, and mostly hodl. If you don't do that then you're mostly speculating, which can also work in crypto but will likely be less valuable long term.

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August 18, 2017, 07:44:41 PM
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That's very different between gamblers and investors. Gambling is purely speculative with no prediction market. It is playing with lucky and unlucky. The possibility theory or math. if you play dice there are six possibilities, 1-6 surface. 1/6. Just hope you are lucky you can 't make market , and profit analisys. In investing of ICOs, you can predict by reading the whitepaper and roadmap. If you are good and have analytical thinking you 'll make a lot of profit from your investment. That's not gambling, you have your own prediction, it is rational not lucky and unlucky.
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August 18, 2017, 07:53:16 PM
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gambler is doing everything what they want based on their speculation and feelings,
investor is a man or woman investing their money into a project and before doing that most of them more likely have done a research before entering this phase,

so gambler and investor are totally different

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August 18, 2017, 07:58:55 PM
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For trading, fundamentals have little to no value for me. For investing, I need to find out as much as I can. I do both, typically long term things have had a way better pay off in the end, just the road to get there is usually full of pain.
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August 18, 2017, 08:09:57 PM
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I do a bit of both. Invest more time doing research for good coins like LISK and put more funds into it, but gamble with other coins like digibyte (with less funds). Don't go all in with one coin - although I wish I did with neo!

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August 18, 2017, 08:50:27 PM
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All this in principle does not matter.

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August 18, 2017, 08:56:50 PM
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Im more of an Investor i guess, because i hold long-term. From the things above that you have written, than yes before investing I check how team is behaving in social media and what roadmap they have. Also how good the community is behind this project Smiley For example in such way i have found a great coin EquiTrader that was only 0.14 when i bought it.

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August 18, 2017, 09:01:33 PM
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It really is a combination of gambling and investing. I try to research as much as I can about the project and read what people are saying about it, before guessing a good entry point to buy in.

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August 18, 2017, 09:17:39 PM
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If you participate in ICOs, you're technically doing both.  Before the project is established, you're really just gambling on it and once the project proves itself, you're an investor.
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August 18, 2017, 09:45:08 PM
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Even before the project is established, there is a lot of things you can research to validate the idea. VCs investing in super early stage companies are not gamblers.

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August 18, 2017, 10:07:38 PM
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Although being a gambler and an investor are really two different bananas, there are several similarities. I don't gamble as in playing with my coins of fiat for that matter. But as an investor, I am also gambling with it because I am taking risks. Despite the risks involved, in trading for example, I still gamble with it.

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August 18, 2017, 10:27:43 PM
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I was a gambler as long as I didn't recognize the great opportunities of cryptocurrencies. There are so many amazing projects around, those are worth to invest for to gain longterm profits and support great developments, business or charity. So I am now investor.
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August 19, 2017, 01:53:20 AM
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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not


I choose to be an investor, because the investor's asset value is still there and clear and not afraid of fraud or scam,

But if gambling then the money will automatically become hot money and will have a very big risk, if lost money will be lost all and it is a very harmful risk.
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August 19, 2017, 02:09:53 AM
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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not


 Grin Check profile team is most important.. White paper just read for fun. Product is important too... dont believe any word from anyone. check their product then invest


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August 19, 2017, 02:12:21 AM
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I think we are both gambler and investor, if you do not do some deep research about a project and you invest in, you are the gambler, otherwise, you are the investor.


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August 19, 2017, 02:19:45 AM
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invest and gamble also same ... unless you have done some research before for investing . 
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August 19, 2017, 02:22:03 AM
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Well coins outside the top 20 (coinmarketcap) = Gamble, other than that you're investing controlled.
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August 19, 2017, 02:51:53 AM
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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not

Read the whitepaper is a must, Do a lot of research with the team, Try to analyze the popularity, how many hype by the project and i think that has reflected by the interest to join in the social grup to make a communication with the team. The clear milestones. that's all.

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August 19, 2017, 02:57:03 AM
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more profit, more risk, all investment is gamble in some sense, do some research and the past experience may reduce the risk, but its still high
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August 19, 2017, 03:01:04 AM
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To invest I first did some research: white paper, team, and the future of a project / coin.
But it is not easy to make a big profit in investing in altcoin because the risk of losses is huge.
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August 19, 2017, 04:01:19 AM
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I think gambling is only based on feelings and random estimates that have no logic, but unlike investment, we can survey first, find information and speculate based on logic, so gamble and investment is different

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August 19, 2017, 04:21:30 AM
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I think gambling is only based on feelings and random estimates that have no logic, but unlike investment, we can survey first, find information and speculate based on logic, so gamble and investment is different
It's different to gamble and to invest in the sense before we invest we do some research of the project first before we put effort and we put our money to grow. So I choose to invest as I believe my money will grow and will profit.

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August 19, 2017, 04:49:04 AM
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being an gambler makes our money can vanish within just a minute/s, but being an investor can make our money doubled or tripled depends on what altcoin would we choose to invest. Just saying that i have an experienced that i invest in a succesfull altcoin now and my money have been x5 hahaha just lucky

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August 19, 2017, 04:53:07 AM
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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not



Hi,
I think you should an investor. You already tested that, you made money in long terms 2014.

I did not knew where you invest your money in long term. If it was in bitcoin then continue investing in bitcoin.
You already discover your system in investing. Goodluck.
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For trading, fundamentals have little to no value for me. For investing, I need to find out as much as I can. I do both, typically long term things have had a way better pay off in the end, just the road to get there is usually full of pain.

If you really don't have enough idea and knowledge into trading, no wonder why for you ait has no value. But there something I like you to know that if your inside the trading platform you are also seeking for investment which you think is good to invest in I mean to buy an altcoin. Though it can be deny it has risk involved too Smiley
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I think investors. I do a research team that will handle a project that we will follow. If in the sense his team is less professional and not famous I will discourage my intention to make such investment.

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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not


Im both gambler and investor too. I will look into best time to either invest or gamble. However I will invest more as gambling is little risky for me.

While investing I will choose best ICO in the market which is getting more attention from the forum people. Most of them are trusted depending on the team members involved into their project.

- do you read the White Paper?

Yes of course this is the first thing I will do. I like reading white paper of every project and they are very informative and tells us the pathway for the project. We can judge from the description of services how much success it can get. I will have 50% trust built already by looking at white paper.

- research the team

As I mentioned earlier, yes I will look into team and few of them are involved into many projects who are trusted and trying to make the ICO successful.

- product of not or not

Yes I will see the product or services by the ICO. If it is unique and new then for sure people will prefer to invest into it. And more investment means the more value of coin in the future.


 
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whether of the two, because if you invest into something that means you also gamble your money. Investment is not an assurance since it either your investment will grow or you will loose it all. Well, I also want to invest and learn more on how this business works.
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August 19, 2017, 05:24:11 AM
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I'd rather to invest on altcoin than gamble because, the risk isn't much compared with gamble as on gamble you can immediately lose all of your bet while in trading you only lose partial of your money.

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
Absolutely, you shouldn't believe with the interface of ANN thread yet you have to read all of their project to make sure you invest on the right project.

- research the team
Yes, because most of scammers will distinguish their identity to scam our money. Unless the team comes from trustworthy project like ETH, Bitcoin or Waves you shouldn't try to invest on those projects.

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I am a gambler and an investor at the same time. I invest on coins which I see is promising and I research well before investing on an altcoin to avoid having losses in trading. At the same time I am a gambler that gambles using a low amount because I only do it just for fun, and not for anything like gaining profit or whatsoever but nevertheless, I want to gain profit in gambling as much as possible. Gambling can be fun sometimes but not all the time.
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I am an investor, when I want to invest in alt coin I always search the perimeter and all the information I need, I search for coin developer and then the promise and how well they convince the other investor, how serious the coin developer advertise their products


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For investments I always read white paper and research the team and product, and mostly hodl. If you don't do that then you're mostly speculating, which can also work in crypto but will likely be less valuable long term.

I think if you do not read the white paper, and especially the road map, make any investments more than meaningless, thus you do not become an investor and a player, I think.
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Investors are taking long-term profit but gambling can only be short-lived and you can lose your money and you can earn a living here, they're both risky and the only scam is to go to investors but to gambling wins and losing the ultimate destination.
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The current cryptocurrency market is indeed not very reasonable, many people like to bet on the short-term ups and downs, the rise is very happy, the loss is uncomfortable, but the real money, are those investors, not speculators

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I want to know what the project will do in the future and what problems will be solved in the future. For this reason, I read the whitepaper carefully. I care attention to the projects and experiences of the project team in the past. I don't invest any project that I hear from the ear, I examine the project.
I think, investing is risky but invest isn't gamble.  Because the gambling isn't a product.

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November 25, 2017, 05:31:09 AM
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i do not usually go to the gambler site of bitcoin or other altcoin because gambling is very addictive once your in there it is hard to go out so i go to the site where i can get the profit without doing some gambling i like it when i earned it by my hard work
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I call myself as an investor that is cautious to use my money in trading altcoin.

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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not


I've made money from gambling but not as much as I've made by holding alts/btc. Gambling is very risky business if you want long term profit, I am sure there are people who are better than I am. I like to pay attention to white paper, team and more importantly people behind it. Decent crowd can make it a hit as long as they're delivering what they promised. Also, marketing that's a big  one.

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For any investment I usually look out for the white paper first then I comprehend what's in there and also look out for the team behind the project and also there product if its promising.

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If you just buy bitcoins or altcoin, then it is sensible investors, if you choose to invest in futures contracts, then it is a gambler. There should be a rational attitude toward investing in coins.
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For me I chose to be a investor. Investors are taking long-term profit but gambling can only be short-lived and you can lose your money and you can earn a living here, they're both risky and the only scam is to go to investors but to gambling wins and losing the ultimate destination. Gambling is addictive and bad habits.. Its never possible that a person always win.  Gambling gives results in a minute,  while investing required efforts and hard work.
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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not

I am a gambler and a trader at the same time. I invest on altcoins that I see potential and in bitcoin and hold it long term. I also gamble on pump and dump altcoins but I don't hold it for long, as soon as I got a good enough sum of profit, I sell it instantly without holding long and technically that makes me both a gambler and investor. I just become one depending on what altcoin I buy and hold and what is needed for the time being to profit.
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November 25, 2017, 12:19:06 PM
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I would rather choose to be an investor than a gambler.
For me gambling is a game of luck, you will end up winning or losing. While if you invest on to something you may expect to get a profit even if its just a small amount still your mobey grows/increase:)

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November 25, 2017, 12:48:15 PM
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Gambling and investing has common denominator which is RISK, yet in my opinion its still better to be an investor instead of being a gambler coz gambling might cause addiction if not properly control and most of the time merely depends on luck unlike investment which with proper knowledge and analysis of a certain field might lead to success.
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November 27, 2017, 10:07:20 AM
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Gambling is always connected with loses. It never happens like this that a gambler wins. If you are going to think first, weigh all the pluses and minuses of the ICO or an altcoin you want to deal with, you will win finally. Something like this.
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Of course I am doing my own research. Reading through the whitepaper, roadmap and discover the team are my main priorities whenever I discover an ICO that's worth to be checked out. The last time I spent a lot of time learning about an ICO I was disappointed since the team made it look like they were doing a hell of a job but the deeper I was getting into the project I just figured out that they were trying to scam. On the other hand, I am following/helping this other project for almost three months now and I have to say that they were not supposed to convince me to put my trust into them or contribute. It was and still is really obvious that the team is working really hard besides every setbacks that have happened through the time. I am really glad that there are some real people out there.
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November 27, 2017, 10:37:35 AM
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investor is the best option to me.as gambler is more on depend on luck and its not a good business,it is not  so  wise decison to be a gaambler.on the other hand investor is real business man to earn profit through intellenge decision.
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They're both risky but gambling is more and worse because it will drain your coins quick especially if you're too addicted to it.
For me I prefer investing because although you'll have to wait more time but your patience will be paid off. Investing Cryptocurrency is the best idea but gambling isn't advisable for crypto new comers.

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November 27, 2017, 10:48:12 AM
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Gambling is always connected with loses. It never happens like this that a gambler wins. If you are going to think first, weigh all the pluses and minuses of the ICO or an altcoin you want to deal with, you will win finally. Something like this.

I agree, gambling institutions are always ended up collecting money from the gamblers, some gamblers are leaving with much money but they'll always ended up losing everything.
There's no good life being a gambler and it will ruin your life and your family.
Gambling in Cryptocurrency is the very least option if you want to find ways to earn more profit in a small period of time but there's a lot of option to choose from and it's to you to decide.

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Depending on gambling for making money is the worst thing as majority of times the end result will not be in your favor and it will bring only loss for you but if you are a smart investor then your money will work for you and at the end you will be satisfied with the profits you have made.

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November 27, 2017, 11:00:45 AM
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I am going to vote for the investor. Why? Because in gambling there is a chance that you can lose your money. But if you know how to invest. There is a high possibility that your money can be raised.

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I would not like to call myself a gambles because i research and learn before i put my money in crypto, but i have had a few losses to be honest. In my opinion, crypto right now is so volatile, that every investor is actually a gambler.

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i would rathere be a investor than being a gambler why? because being a gambler you can be addicted to it once you get reward but you may not know that you already lost money but being a investor you can minimized your expenses because your not addicted on spending it but addicted by saving it

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November 27, 2017, 11:45:04 AM
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i would rather say both because you gamble your hardwork on the ICO and on the gambling you gamble your money it has a same concept yet it is different of gambling payment but still everyday we risk our daily live on our daily days so i would say that i am both gambler and investor
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November 27, 2017, 11:50:32 AM
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If you are gambler you are able to loss alot of money or win alot of money, Im a Gambler i won $900 in 1Hit/Roll/Bet, Gambling is so hard to earn and so hard to recover your loss money.
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Gambling is for the risk takers. Its only for the bold heart. Oh well i have to accept that im not one of them. Although investment is also a risk but not that much compared to gambling. In gambling you may use your gut feeling but in investing you need to do your research.

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When it comes to crypto there is a fine line between gambler and investor, and despite what we say most of us aren't really sure which one we are.  Those that believe they are 100% investors are likely overly optimistic.  Way too many uncertainties to call crypto a sound market.  At some point there will be a major pull back.  Given the costs to mine today vs. the first BTC dip, it will be the response of the miners at that point (faith in the product) that dictates the future of the space.
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I do gamble and investing, but gambling is for fun and investing is for business, my portion for gambling is only a little, for investing ICO I always read the whitepaper and try to understand the purpose of the coin being created and do the research, checking all the detail is very important, since ICO is usually only based on trust and some documents
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I think i am both of them.. But you know you can't win if you don't take risks.. Isn't that life risk? If you can't afford to loose you simply do nothing..

I gamble about AltCoins. Trying to find new and cheap ones..
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November 28, 2017, 02:24:10 AM
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we who are investing in bitcoin can be called and gambler because it too much depends on the market, but it can also be called investors because we use our head to predict the future of cryptocurrencies whether it will rise or drop to make decision sell or keep.
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isnt every decision we make in life more or less a gamble?
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I do both. Invest bitcoin is so called gambling where you want to increase the amount of it.
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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not

Gambler ang investor are similarities, but that is called also a inverstor, and before i inter the project i am so very careful and i read it to understand very well to avoid bad project.
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I choose investors because the way you invest your money you have the possibility to earn more but in gambling for me, you have the big possibility to loss your money.

Before I invest my money first I read the white paper  to know their plans.

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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not


I am read White Paper before I invest my money, I am researching the team and the project and compare between the other projects and if they offer to release the product then I will try to find out too. maybe its like a gamble for me but if I am sure about the project then I will invest my money and so far, I think I made money too like you and I still want to make money for a long term.

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November 28, 2017, 03:02:41 AM
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Personally i am an investor. I always do research on projects do the investment. White paper is more important. And be alert on market

Previous times i lost 2000$ due non alert on markets.

Gambling means daily trading in my view point. Sometimes i do , but its too risky.

Example i had i put 480 usd to a coin the. I lost 180$ , then agin i put another coin 100$ got.. Summery is i lost 80$.


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Gambling and investing is very different, but gambling can give you shocking profits but has extremely risks. On investments, you kinda study and research the background of a project for you to be more confident investing your money to them. Investing is recommendable but gambling is only for your decision if you're gonna risk it or not.
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November 28, 2017, 03:13:28 AM
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Investor like a stock trader, take a deeper look at the project team,their webiste, ICO listing pages and what the project will offer to the general public then I buy.

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I am more an investor rather than gambler.I hold my most of the coins for long term and dont play with them.
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I am both a gambler and an investor because I do most of my actions and activities both ways. Sometimes and trade fast, sometimes I invest for the long run.

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November 28, 2017, 03:36:01 AM
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Investing in altcoin seem to be more gambling nowadays.
Though I may have increased my worth upto x5 from trading in a year, I would have gained more (x13) if I did just hold the bitcoins.



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November 28, 2017, 03:50:59 AM
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I think it doesn't matter whether you keep it long term or you do trading, you are still a gambler cause all this crypto market now ... nobody knows what will happen. There should be a correction even for BTC and nobody knows how hard it would be: 7k, 5k, 3k, 1k? So it is just a gambling that will come to an investing some day
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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not


Whitepaper, team is good to research on especially for quick flip

hmmm i think i m both, we gotta agree luck applies everywhere. If suddenly x happen which we couldnt control, means its x on luck based
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I think both of this are the same , once you invest , you already a gambler. In investing , you will be able to double or triple your profit if the ICO succeeded and the coin value goes high , its a high risk just like when you gamble. In gambling you will win or loose all what you have its a matter of luck and this is also too risky to do. Inveating ang gambling have the same aspects in earning profits.

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Hi,

I see a lot of gamblers..
I gamble with small money..
But I made MORE money with long terms.. (2014)

What kind of research do you do?
- do you read the White Paper?
- research the team
- product of not


I'm more than an investor and less than a gambler as a risk taker from having and doing both.
In everything that we do there's always a risk and we only have the courage to face it as we knew that in the end of the day all our hard works will be pays off.
That's why investing in an ICO needs a lot of research and money isn't the only one at risk here but as well as your time and effort that you put into it.

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Crypto market investment is also a safe gambling. In gambling we loose our all the investment or gain multiple times. But in Crypto market either we loose half or make it double.
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I think both of this are the same , once you invest , you already a gambler. In investing , you will be able to double or triple your profit if the ICO succeeded and the coin value goes high , its a high risk just like when you gamble. In gambling you will win or loose all what you have its a matter of luck and this is also too risky to do. Inveating ang gambling have the same aspects in earning profits.
Even at first glance it´s distinguished that betting is much riskier because you can lose everything in the blink of an eye,that's why it is not recommended and especially if you have little luck or talent in betting,however there will be some winners who are very lucky and know how to bet,but for those who are not like that should be much safer risk in investing I could suppose,which also carries risk but has more chance to exit when your investment does not go well,and if everything goes wrong you may have the opportunity not to lose everything which would be much worse.

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November 28, 2017, 03:36:50 PM
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I do both. Invest bitcoin is so called gambling where you want to increase the amount of it.

It's true that investing is similar to gambling but they're not quite the same. The only similarities they have is that you take risks in both actions. However, their differences is what matter.

Investing money on a coin requires several process in order to become successful .You have to do some research about the coin you want to invest on, read the whitepaper, look at their roadmap, study their goals. Unlike gambling which depends mostly in pure luck, either you win or you lose. The latter is a very risky choice. It's better to take some risk on investments rather than on your luck.
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Yes, I think participation in ICO today is most of the time gambling

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