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May 19, 2013, 06:41:32 PM
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from yifu: no avalon batch 4. avalon will focus on selling chips and developing gen2 (don't know if they will sell units). SMT line should be up in a week. batch #3 will follow quickly behind batch #2.

from josh: BFL mini rigs will probably be split into 3 units of 500GH/s. They will start sell 500GH/s units...maybe in the next 2 weeks. Power consumption of the 500GH/s units are currently ~3kW. Trying to get near 1.5kW.s


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May 19, 2013, 06:42:43 PM
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So Josh was at the conference?

Any idea if Mark Karples was there?

Any news from the Gox front?

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May 19, 2013, 06:54:32 PM
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Any idea if Mark Karples was there?
Hmmm...would he get arrested if he shows up?
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May 19, 2013, 07:34:31 PM
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Thanks for the news  Grin
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May 19, 2013, 08:15:20 PM
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I am most concerned with what Yifu Guo from Avalon has said as my 10-15,000 USD is in Avalon.
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May 19, 2013, 08:22:16 PM
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from josh: BFL mini rigs will probably be split into 3 units of 500GH/s. They will start sell 500GH/s units...maybe in the next 2 weeks. Power consumption of the 500GH/s units are currently ~3kW. Trying to get near 1.5kW.s

I'm guessing no indications on when they may have these 500GH/s ready for shipping?  I know he said they would start to "sell" them in maybe 2 weeks, but I think everyone would like to know when they would actually be able to ship them.
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May 19, 2013, 08:26:52 PM
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from josh: BFL mini rigs will probably be split into 3 units of 500GH/s. They will start sell 500GH/s units...maybe in the next 2 weeks. Power consumption of the 500GH/s units are currently ~3kW. Trying to get near 1.5kW.s

I'm guessing no indications on when they may have these 500GH/s ready for shipping?  I know he said they would start to "sell" them in maybe 2 weeks, but I think everyone would like to know when they would actually be able to ship them.

i don't know how he can say this !!!   first he finish his order that hanging for 1 year almost .
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May 19, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
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from josh: BFL mini rigs will probably be split into 3 units of 500GH/s. They will start sell 500GH/s units...maybe in the next 2 weeks. Power consumption of the 500GH/s units are currently ~3kW. Trying to get near 1.5kW.s

I'm guessing no indications on when they may have these 500GH/s ready for shipping?  I know he said they would start to "sell" them in maybe 2 weeks, but I think everyone would like to know when they would actually be able to ship them.

i don't know how he can say this !!!   first he finish his order that hanging for 1 year almost .

Agreed.  Seems crazy to put a "new" product up for pre-order at this point.
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May 19, 2013, 08:55:02 PM
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... maybe in the next 2 weeks ...

LOL! Josh should get this copyrighted. He uses it so often it's not funny any more.

"maybe in the next 2 weeks" synonymous for "I have no clue" (synonymous for "can I have a quarter please?")

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May 19, 2013, 09:33:19 PM
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from josh: BFL mini rigs will probably be split into 3 units of 500GH/s. They will start sell 500GH/s units...maybe in the next 2 weeks.

Notice how he just says they will be "selling" them. Not that they'll actually ship them in any reasonable amount of time.

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May 19, 2013, 10:47:24 PM
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Does anyone have video of Yifu's talk?

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May 19, 2013, 10:50:18 PM
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Does anyone have video of Yifu's talk?
+1  Or even a paraphrased transcript?

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May 19, 2013, 11:22:13 PM
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Update:

 yifu kind of left the door open for batch #4 by saying..."if we ever do b4".

Gen2 will be 55nm.

It does sound like batches 2+3 will be coming shortly. Their SMT machine was held in customs between japan and china, so that explains why they were delayed there.

They are manually pulling orders from wallet bit (for those that were caught up in the web debacle).

They are dealing with potential security issues in china. e.g. ngzhang  doesn't drive his own car anymore, doesn't use his old cellphone, doesn't live where he used to...

They have physically secured the transportation route between them and the shipper in hopes of preventing damaged avalons (said 6-7 Avalons had  broken corners or damage).
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May 20, 2013, 12:05:02 AM
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They are dealing with potential security issues in china. e.g. ngzhang  doesn't drive his own car anymore, doesn't use his old cellphone, doesn't live where he used to...

That's a little... uh... disturbing...
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May 20, 2013, 12:15:37 AM
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They are dealing with potential security issues in china. e.g. ngzhang  doesn't drive his own car anymore, doesn't use his old cellphone, doesn't live where he used to...

That's a little... uh... disturbing...

Sometimes its hard for us to remember because of the results they get, but China still isn't a westernised country in regards to accountability. The State runs the show, don't like it? Have some prison LOLpwned.

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May 20, 2013, 12:18:37 AM
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If gen2 avalon comes before BFL ships they're toast.
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May 20, 2013, 12:23:55 AM
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Oh.. I thought the SMT line was online already. Basically, we'll get ours in June?

It seemed like a good idea at the time.
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May 20, 2013, 12:26:09 AM
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They are dealing with potential security issues in china. e.g. ngzhang  doesn't drive his own car anymore, doesn't use his old cellphone, doesn't live where he used to...

That's a little... uh... disturbing...

Sometimes its hard for us to remember because of the results they get, but China still isn't a westernised country in regards to accountability. The State runs the show, don't like it? Have some prison LOLpwned.

I think the concern is with rabid ppl rather than the govt...but that's just my guess.
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May 20, 2013, 12:44:47 AM
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If gen2 avalon comes before BFL ships they're toast.

I wonder if they will make Gen2 modules for their Avalon chassis (as a references spec)... or they are just going to produce raw gen2 chips?

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May 20, 2013, 12:46:59 AM
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interesting updates
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