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May 19, 2013, 10:43:13 PM
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Years ago, a friend of mine who was an actor and writer told me, Never rob a bank, instead write about it.  That idea that dangerous activities could be explored trhough fiction has stuck with me. I myself would never break any laws or engage in any activity which was meant to harm anyone, or cause harm to their person or property. Despite that, it is always interesting to speculate. For example, who hasn't sat around with friends, and tried to come up with cool band names, or speculated on what they would do if they won the lottery. And, who hasn't had that most horrible and vulgar speculatvie conversation about how you would dispose of a dead body. Now, just because you sit around and speculate on such morbid thoughts doesn't mean you actually wold kill anyone. It is like talking about what you would do if you were Alexander the Great, or playing some multi-player role playing game in which you kill other players or their avatars.

So there I was, thinking about naughty uses for bitcoin. And, as everyone who has ever watched thousands of hours of NCIS and Law and Order re-runs on Hulu+, the biggest danger in kidnapping someone, the place in the process where the kidnapper is most vulnerable is when he (or she) goes out to retrieve the ransom. 

So, I got to thinking. What if some rich person was kidnapped in Mexicoor Argentina, or even Colombia, places known for kidnappings both for political as well as purely financial goals, and the kidnappers  asked for the ransom in bitcoin. They could provide a paper wallet address, monitor that address online, and then release the kidnap victim once the address was funded.

There would be no way for the ransomers to be able to retrieve the bitcoins once sent. The kidnappers could release the victim in any location, and the law enforcement authorities would not need to know where, since the kidnappers would not need to set an location to retrieve any ransom money.

Let's pick a country, any country south of El Paso, Texas, where such activities are still rampant. Now, imagine that the kidnappers grabbed their target, have him or her in a safe location, have sent their demands by e-mail, and are now sitting, watching Tom & Jerry cartoons via Netflix, while watching the  blockchain, to see if the ransomers have fulfilled their demands. The demands are simply to send some large amount of bitcoin to an address. The ransom email was sent from a toremail.org address. For the sake of this speculative fiction posting, let's say they ask for 10,000 Bitcoin.

The family of the kidnap victim panic. They go to the local police, but the police of this unspecified country being corrupt and lazy suggest that the best thing to do is just pay the ransom, like so many other families in their country do, and just hope for the safe return of their kidnapped family member.

Not being familiar with bitcoin, the family at first freaks out. They then figure out how to buy enough bitcoin through OTC, or through whatever exchange to which they can find access. At first, this is a problem for this family because there is no bitcoin exchange which accepts their national currency. A nephew of the family is going to school in the USA and so buys bitcoin on an exchange to which he has access from the USA using US dollars.

The kidnappers, tired of waiting, are thrilled when they see that the 5,000 bitcoin finally are confirmed. They decide that they will keep communication to the family at a minimum, and they just drive the hooded victim to a secluded location, return to him his fully charged cell phone, so he can call his relatives, and they drive off.

They immediately go to the airport, fly somewhere else, and since there is no money to carry with them, they merely disappear.

The victim returns to his family who now have a greater education into the intricacies of cyrpto-currency.

Now, here comes the problem. The kidnpapers return home to their safe first world country. In the mean time, the purchase of those 10,000 bitcoin has driven the price of bitcoin up by 30%. The kidnappers know they will have a hard time converting their bitcoin to fiat since every exchange now has decided to comply USA laws regarding money laundering and identifying customers and laws created to prevent the financing of terrorism. The kidnapping victim, unbeknownst to the kidnappers decided to hire a former FBI agent and white hat hacker to track them down.

The kidnappers had planned for that and have no intention of trying to convert their 10,000 bitcoin into fiat. They had bought several thousand bitcoin prior to the kidnapping, and when the price move up after the purchase of bitcoin in such great quantity by the ransomers, they all sold their holdings and made profit. But now, they have to figure out what to do with those 10,000 bitcoin.

They fear splitting up the 10K BTC and sending it to their individual accounts, because that speculated to exist former FBI white hatter might detect some activity and find a way to track them down. Instead, they transfer their 10K BTC to an account they opened in a foreign exchange. This exchange only requires users to supply their identifying documents if they want to withdraw fiat. The kidnappers do not want to withdraw fiat. They merely had planned all along to manipulate the market, so they sell all 10,000 bitcoin at once. That causes the price to crash on several exchanges. Having known and planned this, the kidnappers were set to buy at the low by having accounts in their own names with no connection to their ransom account. They sell their ransom bitcoin, and then buy bitcoin on another exchange. After all, the price on one exchange does ripple over [no pun intended] to other exchanges.

Now, they have fiat in an exchange from which they cannot withdraw money. So, they wait a few months. The former FBI white hatter is a clever fellow who reads my Twitter feeds and also reads on this forum as a part of his research. He suspects that the kidnappers just wanted to acquire a large sum of bitcoin to manipulate the market, but he cannot determine the natioality of the kidnappers, their location or from where they are logging on. And, it seems that the kidnappers are using a Russian based exchange. That exchange has just enough volume for them to manipulate the price. They sell bitcoin on the Russian BTC Exchange and the price drops on that exchange and speculators on other exchanges begin trying to buy on the Russian Exchange. The kidnappers are patient, and a year later, they just go on a buying spree with their Rubles, and that pushes the price up further. They conveniently planned it and sell their privately owned bitcoin on other exchanges after the price rise.

After a couple of years, the kidnappers meet in San Diego at a coffee shop and decide to send their 10,000 bitcoin to a mixing service. They talked about making some large ridiculous bets at Satoshi Dice. They talked about just giving away the 10K BTX since they already made loads of money from manipulating the price by buying and selling their large quantity of bitcoin several times.

And, as they sat there in that San Diego coffee shop, they argued about  just letting the bitcoin sit in an offline wallet for years. They argued about using a mixing service. They argued about about manipulating the market by buying and selling large amount all at once a few more times. They also thought about just waiting a few years until the former FBI white hatter woiuld get bored and move on to other projects.

 They left that coffee shop agreeing to wait a few years before meeting again to discuss, in person, because of course communicating by email is not secure. So, they agree to meet in a year at the same coffee shop.

I have an idea about the characters for my short fictional story about this, but there are some technical issues that I haven't figured out. So, here is the problem, I keep imagining a sort of cyber-fiction story about kidnappers asking for their ransom in Bitcoin. Getting teh ransom in bitcoin solves the problem of having to pick up cash in a bag at some transfer location. I just haven't figured out how they can convert their bitcoin into fiat without getting caught.  Bitcoin is really only pseudoanonymous. Any ideas? Remember, this is just research for a science fiction story.

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May 19, 2013, 11:05:47 PM
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Awesome story.

Maybe they could purchase tangible assets in bitcoin (art, precious metals, property) through a middleman, and then sell said assets for fiat. Maybe the middleman could be a corrupt lawyer (a la Saul Goodman), who could cover his own tracks. The lawyer could either exchange bitcoin for these assets directly or pay in fiat himself (or through a client who gets a cut) after receiving the bitcoin from the ransomers.

Another option is maybe funding arms deals for a corrupt government who could pay back in fiat once they taxed the shit out of their society through martial law. Then again, they've now got all the guns so good luck getting your money back!

hmmmm don't think these options would work, gonna have to think a bit more about this...
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May 20, 2013, 12:59:36 AM
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Why would they risk doing the kidnapping if they already had a nice lump of BTC?

Why would they not just send the BTC's trough some mixing services and split it up into small wallets?


They could also do some buying and selling of other cryptos to hide their tracks even more. Imagine using BTC to buy BBQ coins and then exchanging the BBQ coins for some Chinacoin before changing the chinacoin etc and in the end buy BTC again and selling for USD.

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May 20, 2013, 01:25:42 AM
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They talked about just giving away the 10K BTX since they already made loads of money from manipulating the price by buying and selling their large quantity of bitcoin several times.
Good idea for a story, but this part doesn't seem plausible. Kidnappers tend to be greedy and even talking about giving money away doesn't make much sense.

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May 20, 2013, 02:38:53 AM
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There is no need, use a mixer service to mix the BTC, then give out 5% to random people, then wait some time to spend the rest. So even if
there are investigators tracking the movement of BTC (probably a unfruitful endeavor after the btc are mixed), they will be led on a wild goose chase and will give up.

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May 20, 2013, 03:14:08 AM
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Here's a previous thread about kidnapping. http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99947.msg1093185#msg1093185

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May 20, 2013, 05:41:07 AM
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No reason to kidnap a human, since that's a hanging offense in most places.

I know!  You could hold some well-known politician's tax returns for ransom in bitcoin, just before an election!

Oh... wait...

Dankedan: price seems low, time to sell I think...
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May 20, 2013, 05:50:58 AM
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It's not fiction Smiley

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/06/politics/romney-tax-threat
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May 20, 2013, 09:34:39 AM
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Ok, it's not that hard. All to convert a large ammount of illegal fund is the following :

1 a mixing service

Bitcoin mixing is pretty simple. An ammount of BTC is chopped up into random ammounts and transferred through a series of adresses together with other funds. This effectively obscures the origines of the starting ammount.

2 fake ID  and other documents which can be bought on TOR, with BTC

With these documents a shadowy figure can open bank accounts and ...

2 anonymous creditcards.

There are high limit CC's that are quite expensive to use but completely anonymous, if they arn't used for too long.

3 Cash out. Take the cash to a casino. Buy Chips. Take the chips home. Return to the casino until you have a LOT of chips, and turn cash those out. Ask the cashier to make a receipt and aks them to deposit on your bank account.

4 Presto. White money.


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At least, number 3 works in some European countries, I don't know how that works in the US. The hardest part would be setting up bank accounts and CC with stolen identities, but for those without a conscience and a little patience everything can be bought on the Dark Web.

DISCLAIMER : I have researched this quite a bit out of curiousity, but wouldn't dream of actually doing it. The lives of the people who's identities are abused by scams like these are made a living hell for a few years as they struggle to prove their innocence.

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May 20, 2013, 09:38:39 AM
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Ok, it's not that hard. All to convert a large ammount of illegal fund is the following :

1 a mixing service

Bitcoin mixing is pretty simple. An ammount of BTC is chopped up into random ammounts and transferred through a series of adresses together with other funds. This effectively obscures the origines of the starting ammount.

2 fake ID  and other documents which can be bought on TOR, with BTC

With these documents a shadowy figure can open bank accounts and ...

2 anonymous creditcards.

There are high limit CC's that are quite expensive to use but completely anonymous, if they arn't used for too long.

3 Cash out. Take the cash to a casino. Buy Chips. Take the chips home. Return to the casino until you have a LOT of chips, and turn cash those out. Ask the cashier to make a receipt and aks them to deposit on your bank account.

4 Presto. White money.


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At least, number 3 works in some European countries, I don't know how that works in the US. The hardest part would be setting up bank accounts and CC with stolen identities, but for those without a conscience and a little patience everything can be bought on the Dark Web.

DISCLAIMER : I have researched this quite a bit out of curiousity, but wouldn't dream of actually doing it. The lives of the people who's identities are abused by scams like these are made a living hell for a few years as they struggle to prove their innocence.

Really - they let you take chips home in Europe?  In the US I don't think the casinos allow their chips out of the building.  But it's been awhile - maybe that's changed?

Dankedan: price seems low, time to sell I think...
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May 20, 2013, 09:41:04 AM
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Sure they do. I've played poker professionally and nobody ever stopped me, anywhere.

I loved stacking them up at home Smiley

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May 20, 2013, 09:45:30 AM
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Sure they do. I've played poker professionally and nobody ever stopped me, anywhere.

I loved stacking them up at home Smiley
Then you should also know that the casinos keep track if you actually play with the chips or not.

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May 20, 2013, 10:09:35 AM
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Sure they do. I've played poker professionally and nobody ever stopped me, anywhere.

I loved stacking them up at home Smiley
Then you should also know that the casinos keep track if you actually play with the chips or not.

I don't think so. At least I've never noticed.  The only way they CAN do this is if the would put some kind of tracking chip into the chip, like an RFID chip. I've never seen them scan a chip, they just go in the tray or disapeer in shutes.

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May 20, 2013, 10:35:22 AM
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Sure they do. I've played poker professionally and nobody ever stopped me, anywhere.

I loved stacking them up at home Smiley
Then you should also know that the casinos keep track if you actually play with the chips or not.

I don't think so. At least I've never noticed.  The only way they CAN do this is if the would put some kind of tracking chip into the chip, like an RFID chip. I've never seen them scan a chip, they just go in the tray or disapeer in shutes.

At least in Vegas they use RFID chips. Besides tracking your play (the tables have readers) they prevent the use of fake chips and also chip theft.

And of course they have cameras covering every table.

If you keep buying chips from the cage and never play, by the time you try to cash out a big sum they are aware of what you're doing and will never give you a receipt for gambling winnings.


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May 20, 2013, 10:48:02 AM
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Sure they do. I've played poker professionally and nobody ever stopped me, anywhere.

I loved stacking them up at home Smiley
Then you should also know that the casinos keep track if you actually play with the chips or not.

I don't think so. At least I've never noticed.  The only way they CAN do this is if the would put some kind of tracking chip into the chip, like an RFID chip. I've never seen them scan a chip, they just go in the tray or disapeer in shutes.

At least in Vegas they use RFID chips. Besides tracking your play (the tables have readers) they prevent the use of fake chips and also chip theft.

And of course they have cameras covering every table.

If you keep buying chips from the cage and never play, by the time you try to cash out a big sum they are aware of what you're doing and will never give you a receipt for gambling winnings.



Cool. Well, im certain they don't do that in Macau and in some European countries though. How about taxes, do you pay tax in the US over gambling winnings ?

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May 20, 2013, 11:02:58 AM
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Sure they do. I've played poker professionally and nobody ever stopped me, anywhere.

I loved stacking them up at home Smiley
Then you should also know that the casinos keep track if you actually play with the chips or not.

I don't think so. At least I've never noticed.  The only way they CAN do this is if the would put some kind of tracking chip into the chip, like an RFID chip. I've never seen them scan a chip, they just go in the tray or disapeer in shutes.

At least in Vegas they use RFID chips. Besides tracking your play (the tables have readers) they prevent the use of fake chips and also chip theft.

And of course they have cameras covering every table.

If you keep buying chips from the cage and never play, by the time you try to cash out a big sum they are aware of what you're doing and will never give you a receipt for gambling winnings.



Cool. Well, im certain they don't do that in Macau and in some European countries though. How about taxes, do you pay tax in the US over gambling winnings ?
Americans have to pay taxes for gambling winnings. I'm from Finland where gambling winnings within EEA are tax free.

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May 20, 2013, 11:10:36 AM
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There's a very positive point about the fact that the "ransom" would be paid online, without it being traced to a source etc... the likelihood of the kidnappers to release the kidnapped-person is way higher, since no one knows where they are or had to meet with them (to make the exchange of goods-person) etc. So it increases the chances by a huge margin.

Here's another thought:
One more thing; in the future there should be a "blood money bitcoin" list or something, since we can all see the bitcoins anywhere and track it to the end of time, and bitcoins that get to such lists will lose a lot of it's value... Some would still trade it, but for less money I presume. Just like with stolen diamonds.

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May 21, 2013, 01:17:53 PM
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It sounds to me like you're being a little too "nice". Why release the kidnapped victim at all? Why not just dispose of the body rather than risk the victim giving away any details that might lead back to you? Why try to sell for fiat at all? We hear that 1,000 new merchants are being added each month. You could be buying all kinds of crap. How about buying drugs off of Silk Road and selling them to a drug lord. You're already in Mexico, after all. And why bother going from one kind of crime - kidnapping/ransom - to market manipulation? Why not just do another kidnapping?

These are the kinds of questions that keep me up at night. What are the possible solutions? Does the possibility of this justify putting cameras EVERYWHERE the way that terrorism "justified" the Patriot Act? Does this justify more wire-tapping, mandatory keyloggers in our computers, and more NSA information gathering? Is the solution to implant tracking chips in random locations in our bodies? Maybe we need some sort of super-computing profiler to determine what types of people might actually attempt a crime such as this and then round them up before they even try. Bitcoin is a 21st century technology and will require 21st century methods to deal with some of the new problems it creates.

Believe it or not, there are people in the government that want to help you, whether you want their help or not. They really do want to try to prevent these types of crimes. They have shown, however, Patriot Act <cough> <cough>, TSA <cough>, DHS <cough again>, how they deal with things. It would not surprise me if we are not happy with the things they implement to deal with Bitcoin crime. They'll simply say, "Hey, you wanted Bitcoin, so we're giving you Big Brother 2.0".
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It sounds to me like you're being a little too "nice". Why release the kidnapped victim at all? Why not just dispose of the body rather than risk the victim giving away any details that might lead back to you?

It's all about the way your brain works. If you think there's a chance they will release the person you wish they would, then paying is a good option and it becomes an even better one if they asked the money in BTC for the reasons I stated above. If you think they will, no matter what, "dispose of the body" then don't pay at all and keep your life as usual.
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