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May 20, 2013, 08:44:39 AM
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Klondike assembly EOI

I am looking to get around 37 Klondike boards professionally assembled in Sydney. At this stage I will be waiting on the final PCB design and BOM so I can get quotes.

If you are interested in adding to my possible order please post. The larger the run the cheaper it is.

I used to work in the smd assembly industry, admittedly that was a long time ago but it does mean I am comfortable getting this done.
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Hi defkin,
I'm in Sydney and I'm getting 625 klondike boards done myself.
I have been waiting for a finalised design to go shopping around for an assembler but these guys look pretty cheap: http://www.tracktronics.com.au.
Dunno if it would work for us to buy together cos I'm looking to have the assembly done within 24-48 hours of receiving chips.
I think we could definitely work together on the heatsinks if you were interested.
Might be good to trade infos on different suppliers/assemblers though.
cheers
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May 20, 2013, 09:37:56 AM
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Hi all, I'm in for ten boards. Have been shopping around for quotes as well and waiting for results. Maybe get a group buy going for Australia residents?
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May 20, 2013, 09:49:34 AM
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Hi all, I'm in for ten boards. Have been shopping around for quotes as well and waiting for results. Maybe get a group buy going for Australia residents?

Although I might increase the number of boards to 40. Heatsinks are a worry at the moment for me.

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May 20, 2013, 12:00:54 PM
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Hi guys.

I'm in Tassie.

Would be interested in some boards.

Could you post a bit more info on where you are at with regard to chips, design etc.

 And associated costs etc.

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I'm in Aus and would maybe be interested, however it will depend heavily on timing, cost and my disposable income at the time.

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In Brisbane, I'll be interested and will keep a eye here for further details as they develop
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Best price I can gather right now is as follows:
machine setup (per unique part): 25 parts (pls correct me if I'm wrong) = $100
PCB Load : $4 per board = $2500 (just for my boards, will be more including others)
Component placement fee, $0.05 per part x 307 parts = $15.35
Assembly Price per board = approx $20 per board + parts
would love to hear corrections or better offers...
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May 20, 2013, 03:56:38 PM
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Interested as well.  I'm in WA
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Best price I can gather right now is as follows:
machine setup (per unique part): 25 parts (pls correct me if I'm wrong) = $100
PCB Load : $4 per board = $2500 (just for my boards, will be more including others)
Component placement fee, $0.05 per part x 307 parts = $15.35
Assembly Price per board = approx $20 per board + parts
would love to hear corrections or better offers...

Thats good, no heatsinks I assume.
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interested however dont have any chips
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In Brisbane, was keeping an eye out for complete board sales as l didn't order any chips, don't need cases or anything like that. Currently looking at Terrahash but anything closer to home is better.



625 boards seems like an awful lot, like over 2.5 Terrahash! When I started mining in 2011 I use to get ove 1 BTC per day on about $500 worth of hardware. I would have to spend  10 times that now to get the same using GPU. People are throwing annual salaries into hardware and the block rate says the same, the difficulty just goes up. My goals are a bit more modest, I am still happy with a BTC a day which is about 20-25GH/s worth of Klondike boards.
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May 21, 2013, 03:43:56 AM
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Hi defkin,
I'm in Sydney and I'm getting 625 klondike boards done myself.
I have been waiting for a finalised design to go shopping around for an assembler but these guys look pretty cheap: http://www.tracktronics.com.au.
Dunno if it would work for us to buy together cos I'm looking to have the assembly done within 24-48 hours of receiving chips.
I think we could definitely work together on the heatsinks if you were interested.
Might be good to trade infos on different suppliers/assemblers though.
cheers



Hi I live in Sydney

are you going to sell some of your 625 boards ?
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Hi, I'll be offering a group service for Australian residents wishing to have their Klondike 16/64 boards built. After looking through all the Klondike info I don't think I'll be trusting any of my boards with inconsistent chinese or similar parts. And at $130 dollars worth of chips in each board I think the extra costs of Australian manufacture are worth it.

I'll be offering a near turn key product ie. cables, atx power, testing and certification. All that is needed from you is correct number of chips and heatsinks.

I'll soon be posting a rough guide for costing (including postage) the 16 and 64 board manufacture with costing for ATX PSU and periphery cables. Also included will be a quick turnaround price and a normal price.

Payment can be made via BTc and direct bank transfer.

Can I get some idea of numbers please?

I'll also be offering to participate in identity verification face to face for worried individuals.


I'll be offering a group buy/service for a near turn key product.
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I'm interested as well, can anyone supply chips or willing to sell me a few to complete a few boards?

I'm in Sydney

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Best price I can gather right now is as follows:
machine setup (per unique part): 25 parts (pls correct me if I'm wrong) = $100
PCB Load : $4 per board = $2500 (just for my boards, will be more including others)
Component placement fee, $0.05 per part x 307 parts = $15.35
Assembly Price per board = approx $20 per board + parts
would love to hear corrections or better offers...

Hi emanymton

I can think of a few items:
The solder paste stencil
Through hole components
Cost/supply of components, the assembler should be able to supply all of these and depending on what their turnover is they could have good buying power. Tubed components we could supply and will for the avalon chip also they load one for one. Reel components on the other hand can add up on short runs, they are a bit like staples in that when separated from the tape are useless and depending on the machine a number are wasted when loading up.

I think we really need the PCB file and BOM for a comparative quote, what one company charges for assembly, another might make up in supply, and other in short lead times.


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Hi all, I'm in for ten boards. Have been shopping around for quotes as well and waiting for results. Maybe get a group buy going for Australia residents?

I have a few chips on order that i will probably get populated to a couple of boards through my group. Once things are more mature and i actually see chips coming from avalon and working boards the i will be prepared to invest further.

I would be interested in a group buy of chips and boards as things progress. I could be tempted into a few boards to hold whilst waiting for the next batch of chips.

I think timing is everything here. Where all gonna receive chips at different times making a single run not practical. However an aussie group buy from avalon followed by a board run would be an excellent idea...
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Hi defkin,
I'm in Sydney and I'm getting 625 klondike boards done myself.
I have been waiting for a finalised design to go shopping around for an assembler but these guys look pretty cheap: http://www.tracktronics.com.au.
Dunno if it would work for us to buy together cos I'm looking to have the assembly done within 24-48 hours of receiving chips.
I think we could definitely work together on the heatsinks if you were interested.
Might be good to trade infos on different suppliers/assemblers though.
cheers



Hi I live in Sydney

are you going to sell some of your 625 boards ?

I'm going to try set up a farm in some old server racks with all of them if possible. If it turns out to be too much to handle then I'll sell some of them.
It is quite excessive but I've been kicking myself for not getting into mining sooner and now's my chance.
If the k64 design is available by the time I get my chips then I'll be using that one.

Hi, I'll be offering a group service for Australian residents wishing to have their Klondike 16/64 boards built. After looking through all the Klondike info I don't think I'll be trusting any of my boards with inconsistent chinese or similar parts. And at $130 dollars worth of chips in each board I think the extra costs of Australian manufacture are worth it.

I'll be offering a near turn key product ie. cables, atx power, testing and certification. All that is needed from you is correct number of chips and heatsinks.

I'll soon be posting a rough guide for costing (including postage) the 16 and 64 board manufacture with costing for ATX PSU and periphery cables. Also included will be a quick turnaround price and a normal price.

Payment can be made via BTc and direct bank transfer.

Can I get some idea of numbers please?

I'll also be offering to participate in identity verification face to face for worried individuals.


I'll be offering a group buy/service for a near turn key product.

I could possibly be interested depending on price, but I think at my volume it's gonna work out cheaper to do it myself.

Best price I can gather right now is as follows:
machine setup (per unique part): 25 parts (pls correct me if I'm wrong) = $100
PCB Load : $4 per board = $2500 (just for my boards, will be more including others)
Component placement fee, $0.05 per part x 307 parts = $15.35
Assembly Price per board = approx $20 per board + parts
would love to hear corrections or better offers...

Hi emanymton

I can think of a few items:
The solder paste stencil
Through hole components
Cost/supply of components, the assembler should be able to supply all of these and depending on what their turnover is they could have good buying power. Tubed components we could supply and will for the avalon chip also they load one for one. Reel components on the other hand can add up on short runs, they are a bit like staples in that when separated from the tape are useless and depending on the machine a number are wasted when loading up.

I think we really need the PCB file and BOM for a comparative quote, what one company charges for assembly, another might make up in supply, and other in short lead times.




Thanks for the input, everythings still very tentative till the design is finalised then I can start to shop around.
It'll be interesting to see how fast we can get these boards put into action.
I can't imagine the components being too much cheaper than mouser but would love if they were.
Hopefully the through hole components don't affect the overall assembly price too much.
If anybody knows any good assemblers or a place to get the heatsinks domestically I think we could all benefit.


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Thanks for the input, everythings still very tentative till the design is finalised then I can start to shop around.
It'll be interesting to see how fast we can get these boards put into action.
I can't imagine the components being too much cheaper than mouser but would love if they were.
Hopefully the through hole components don't affect the overall assembly price too much.
If anybody knows any good assemblers or a place to get the heatsinks domestically I think we could all benefit.

I am going to be water cooling mine, I have not worked all the details out yet but it will be simple using off the shelf parts.
I have an avalon now and it puts out a lot of heat and noise.

Here is my initial idea. Its looking like I will need to make an adapter plate from flat bar and will mount broads both side of the tube.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179769.msg2187398#msg2187398

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Just an FYI ... I live in Sydney Smiley
So if you want to ensure continued support by the cgminer devs - ckolivas and myself - if you can provide one to each of us we can of course ensure we can provide proper and ongoing support for them.

The Avalon software is already under heavy development by ckolivas at the moment for the switch over to USB.

... and being in Sydney myself ... you can get one to me the same day they are ready and I can test and work on cgminer if required to make sure everyone will have it working as soon as possible if there are any problems then and in the future
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