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August 21, 2017, 07:46:18 PM
Last edit: August 21, 2017, 09:16:09 PM by Aveatrex
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Hello pals,
Here's the story.Ico discuss is a forum,it's admin opened an offer where he is paying members to join and post.
Here's the link:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2092730.0
At first,people asked him to use escrow but he said that he called OgNasty and he rejected because of low amount.
So he hired me and @xasistech as moderator of his forum,he promised to pay 100$ monthly being a moderator.
He also used us to make other people think that he is legit by paying us upfront for our posts.
The problem is,me and xasistech realized that he is willing to scam everyone.
I do not want to be part of a scam project so here's our staff discussion,at first he told us that he will get funds to pay members sunday,which appear not happened.Today is monday and nearly tuesday forum time and we still don't have any notice from him since 24 hours.
The worst is that he asked xasistech to hire a designer to make signatures and logo so we can run the signature compaign,now the designer made them but we don't know what to tell him as Icodiscuss admin still didn't send us funds to pay him.
He really used us to scam people please staff members/trusted members help us to solve this we trusted him and we regret it now please see screenshots below,if more informations needed I'll be happy to provide them

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August 21, 2017, 07:55:23 PM
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A few days ago the admin of that forum cames to here offering $8 for 20 posts, then he hired us for being moderators of that forum and paying us $100 a month for that. He payed us $15 in advance to work with him.
He make me contact two designers for signatures and avatars, and he told me that in sunday i was gonna have the money to pay them. But he dissapeared, now i dont know what to do.
This guy dissapeared from everywhere, i think the only thing that he wanted was to grow his forum.


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August 21, 2017, 08:10:05 PM
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That was expected... I joined anyway because there was a chance in one thousand that could be real.

You should waited that guy send you the money first before contacting the designer to start the job... To don't harm the designer you should pay him with the money you two received from the scammer guy, don't know how much it costs, but you could split the debt between yourselves.

 
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August 21, 2017, 08:12:34 PM
Last edit: August 21, 2017, 08:34:23 PM by Aveatrex
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That was expected... I joined anyway because there was a chance in one thousand that could be real.

You should waited that guy send you the money first before contacting the designer to start the job... To don't harm the designer you should pay him with the money you two received from the scammer guy, don't know how much it costs, but you could split the debt between yourselves.

The guy paid us 15$ each we could never pay him with such amount man and the designer would cost us 0.03BTC I honestly don't have what to pay him,also it's not our fault if the admin decided to scam we were scammed too all our work and effort in the forum went in vain.






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August 21, 2017, 09:42:27 PM
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As i recall you were arrogant and called me ''being stupid'' when i said i am skeptical about the project and the i think it is a scam because of numerous changes in rules and continuous editing of posts...
At least you guys are cool, came clean about it and now we dont have to lose our time there. Good job for that!
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August 21, 2017, 09:55:25 PM
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As i recall you were arrogant and called me ''being stupid'' when i said i am skeptical about the project and the i think it is a scam because of numerous changes in rules and continuous editing of posts...
At least you guys are cool, came clean about it and now we dont have to lose our time there. Good job for that!

Yes,I wanted to apologize again about it that guy didn't let us see clear in his intentions until now.He paid us upfront and we really thought that he was serious about his project you can say that we were stupid and dumb,We are really sorry that we helped him to fool you guys but it wasn't in our intentions I mean it's not everyday that someone considerate you in his project we had faith on it that's why we defended it so bad but now we are trying to catch up ourselves and warn you to not waste your time there anymore.I hope we can find a way to discuss this to the designer please someone tag the admin account so he can't make more scams sorry again.






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August 21, 2017, 10:14:07 PM
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Okay, you were cheated because they did not use escrow, but some of you asked the admin of this forum where the money comes from to pay you?

I suppose @icodiscuss would pay with money from his pocket and that in a short time he would have many companies advertising in his forum and with that it will be no problem to pay you.

The problem with this plan is that the person never knows when they will have clients, so in my opinion he should not make illusory promises, not pay high prices and should have payment money for 3 months or it may be that @icodiscuss is a big Scammers who just wanted you to register to steal your account password or something.


Something he intends to gain from this forum he created

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Okay, you were cheated because they did not use escrow, but some of you asked the admin of this forum where the money comes from to pay you?

I suppose @icodiscuss would pay with money from his pocket and that in a short time he would have many companies advertising in his forum and with that it will be no problem to pay you.

The problem with this plan is that the person never knows when they will have clients, so in my opinion he should not make illusory promises, not pay high prices and should have payment money for 3 months or it may be that @icodiscuss is a big Scammers who just wanted you to register to steal your account password or something.


Something he intends to gain from this forum he created


Yeah probably you are right, but i dont think that anyone would use the same username/password that he uses in bitcointalk. I do register and i used a different username-pass.
But i dont think that he created the forum to make a pishing. This scam has been realized a lot of times in this forum, and all the forum owners run away with no paying. They only feed their charts (on adsense/or any other web ads campaing) and they take profit from that.
Well, this is not your fault guys, we all should give neg trust to this scammer.


Okay, you were cheated because they did not use escrow, but some of you asked the admin of this forum where the money comes from to pay you?

I suppose @icodiscuss would pay with money from his pocket and that in a short time he would have many companies advertising in his forum and with that it will be no problem to pay you.

The problem with this plan is that the person never knows when they will have clients, so in my opinion he should not make illusory promises, not pay high prices and should have payment money for 3 months or it may be that @icodiscuss is a big Scammers who just wanted you to register to steal your account password or something.


Something he intends to gain from this forum he created


Yes that was probably his intentions get advertisers to advertise about ICOs  on his forum but he didn't use any kind of adnetworks such as google adsense.Also I doubt that the forum was for phishing purpose as the website has HTTPS certificate.Yes guys please red tag him so other people don't join that forum and get scammed too.






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August 22, 2017, 12:43:05 AM
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What will happen to that forum? I have a little amount of love on it and hoping that it will grow, i feel betrayed by icodiscuss if this accusations were true. I just hope you'll post this also to the icodiscuss forum to alert people there who are still hoping that forum will continue to grow.
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just like i thought, but i gave him a chance to prove that he is not the one who became scammer. so i decide to join and give it a try. and now its proven that he is. and i think give them all a negative trust for being not fair and scam the other who did participate at that forum. all of them (admin/mods) are deserve to take a disciplinary action and no exceptions. to aware all the others that they belong to that forum (icodiscuss) who scam and defense it from all the thoughts that we had before. i hope OP that you clean up all your mess/responsibility for that and accept the consequence for being part of it.
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just like i thought, but i gave him a chance to prove that he is not the one who became scammer. so i decide to join and give it a try. and now its proven that he is. and i think give them all a negative trust for being not fair and scam the other who did participate at that forum. all of them (admin/mods) are deserve to take a disciplinary action and no exceptions. to aware all the others that they belong to that forum (icodiscuss) who scam and defense it from all the thoughts that we had before. i hope OP that you clean up all your mess/responsibility for that and accept the consequence for being part of it.

It's not the mods fault,we don't have control over what the admin decide to do,also we were hired to post/moderate like everyone else and don't think that he paid us to be moderators,he has a debt over all of us.Giving us a red trust is not fair because if we intended to scam users we wouldn't open a scam accusation,we would just keep delaying it so we accomplish our job.Stop talking non-sense we made a mistake and we are trying to correct it now by warning all of you.






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just like i thought, but i gave him a chance to prove that he is not the one who became scammer. so i decide to join and give it a try. and now its proven that he is. and i think give them all a negative trust for being not fair and scam the other who did participate at that forum. all of them (admin/mods) are deserve to take a disciplinary action and no exceptions. to aware all the others that they belong to that forum (icodiscuss) who scam and defense it from all the thoughts that we had before. i hope OP that you clean up all your mess/responsibility for that and accept the consequence for being part of it.

It's not the mods fault,we don't have control over what the admin decide to do,also we were hired to post/moderate like everyone else and don't think that he paid us to be moderators,he has a debt over all of us.Giving us a red trust is not fair because if we intended to scam users we wouldn't open a scam accusation,we would just keep delaying it so we accomplish our job.Stop talking non-sense we made a mistake and we are trying to correct it now by warning all of you.
Exactly, Ave and Xax, who were moderators of icodiscuss.com were also a victim here. They are just giving us warning of the possiblity that icodiscuss is scamming all of us here, i just really hope he will clean his name.
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Right now I will refrain not to post on that scam forum, hope everyone in that forum might be aware of this fraud act they did. Thanks Aveatrex for the notice.
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There have been a few losers who have promised to pay for posting but never did.

More recently:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2090506.0

And more aggressively:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1680682.0

Anyway, I left this loser negative trust as well.  I will remove it if/when he/she pays everyone. 

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There have been a few losers who have promised to pay for posting but never did.

More recently:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2090506.0

And more aggressively:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1680682.0

Anyway, I left this loser negative trust as well.  I will remove it if/when he/she pays everyone. 

Thank you Vod really appreciate your help,I hope too that he comes back and pay everyone especially the designer which he asked xasistech to hire and made the signatures for the project without being paid...I feel bad for him this stupid guy played with us, what xasistech will tell to the poor designer now?






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Right now I will refrain not to post on that scam forum, hope everyone in that forum might be aware of this fraud act they did. Thanks Aveatrex for the notice.
That forum was dead on arrival.   Paying the most desperate shitposters from bitcointal to post there?  Yeah, that's a recipe for success.   I didn't expect the owner there to scam anyone,  but he probably saw what a loser hole it was and just walked away.

Props to you two for being honest and doing this.  That says a lot.

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August 22, 2017, 03:29:11 AM
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There have been a few losers who have promised to pay for posting but never did.

More recently:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2090506.0

And more aggressively:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1680682.0

Anyway, I left this loser negative trust as well.  I will remove it if/when he/she pays everyone. 

Thank you Vod really appreciate your help,I hope too that he comes back and pay everyone especially the designer which he asked xasistech to hire and made the signatures for the project without being paid...I feel bad for him this stupid guy played with us, what xasistech will tell to the poor designer now?

Aveatrex, can you post to icodiscuss about this issue? thank you, i think a lot of members still don't really know what happened between you and icodiscuss.
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August 22, 2017, 03:37:39 AM
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Right now I will refrain not to post on that scam forum, hope everyone in that forum might be aware of this fraud act they did. Thanks Aveatrex for the notice.
That forum was dead on arrival.   Paying the most desperate shitposters from bitcointal to post there?  Yeah, that's a recipe for success.   I didn't expect the owner there to scam anyone,  but he probably saw what a loser hole it was and just walked away.

Props to you two for being honest and doing this.  That says a lot.

Yeah,it was clear since the beginning but we were dumb that we didn't see it coming.Thanks man Smiley

There have been a few losers who have promised to pay for posting but never did.

More recently:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2090506.0

And more aggressively:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1680682.0

Anyway, I left this loser negative trust as well.  I will remove it if/when he/she pays everyone. 

Thank you Vod really appreciate your help,I hope too that he comes back and pay everyone especially the designer which he asked xasistech to hire and made the signatures for the project without being paid...I feel bad for him this stupid guy played with us, what xasistech will tell to the poor designer now?

Aveatrex, can you post to icodiscuss about this issue? thank you, i think a lot of members still don't really know what happened between you and icodiscuss.
Done I posted on all boards so people see it each time they are about to post.






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August 22, 2017, 04:12:32 AM
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Done I posted on all boards so people see it each time they are about to post.

But you posted the wrong link.  :/

Anyway, those posts will be deleted as soon as the Admin signs on...

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August 22, 2017, 04:22:07 AM
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Done I posted on all boards so people see it each time they are about to post.

But you posted the wrong link.  :/

Anyway, those posts will be deleted as soon as the Admin signs on...

Oh thanks for the notice,as I still have moderator access I edited the posts with correct link.Although he will probably delete them once he is online but I doubt that he comes here again,he will just leave the forum and disappear from here in my opinion.Anyways we still don't have any notice from him 36 hours now.






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