Pacquiao vs. Horn - REMATCH!

[harizen]

ever since becoming a senator Pacquiao has lost his fans so he's scared of a rematch with a poor fighter

I think pacquiao is never afraid to rematch, but I think that the horn will be afraid to rematch. Paquiao never lost fans when he became senator. citizen in philipine have a big respect to pacquiao.

You are right there in terms of respect of Filipino fans for Pacquaio. Honestly majority of PH wants Pacquiao to just stopped and focus on his government position although in my own view he can handled both at the same time. He is one of the most working Senator today in PH Senate.

About boxing, both parties are not afraid to rematch because WHY SUCH IN A FIRST PLACE?. Pacquaio has his own business about being part of government delegation that will landed on expected rematch date and Horn on the other hand aggrees on a rematch but now looking for another opponent since Pacquaio can't make it on supposed bout date. Just follow them so you guys will have some insights about the upcoming bout.

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[yoseph]

ever since becoming a senator Pacquiao has lost his fans so he's scared of a rematch with a poor fighter

I think pacquiao is never afraid to rematch, but I think that the horn will be afraid to rematch. Paquiao never lost fans when he became senator. citizen in philipine have a big respect to pacquiao.

It's said that he is part of a Philippine delegation that's going to China for some even and unfortunately it coincided with the day the boxing match was supposed to take place, he was robbed in that match and am hoping that a later date could be set so that he give the guy a KO.

[boyptc]

ever since becoming a senator Pacquiao has lost his fans so he's scared of a rematch with a poor fighter

No he didn't, being a senator and boxer is totally different. People loved him as a boxer but when it comes to legislation most of the social media comments I'm reading about him are very degrading. I don't know why people keeps on talking like that and I did see some are remaining to be his supporters forever. It's not about he's scared of the rematch, he actually wants to push it.

[Ziskinberg]

ever since becoming a senator Pacquiao has lost his fans so he's scared of a rematch with a poor fighter

No he didn't, being a senator and boxer is totally different. People loved him as a boxer but when it comes to legislation most of the social media comments I'm reading about him are very degrading. I don't know why people keeps on talking like that and I did see some are remaining to be his supporters forever. It's not about he's scared of the rematch, he actually wants to push it.

Manny has a lot of responsibilities and being a senator is already a big one, a boxer needs to be focus both mentally and emotionally and somehow I could say that Manny has lost some passion in boxing that is why he is now vulnerable to losing. He can fight but he does not possess the some power like before, he is not hungry anymore as he is only up for the money and a little entertainment to the fans.

[btc_angela]

ever since becoming a senator Pacquiao has lost his fans so he's scared of a rematch with a poor fighter

No he didn't, being a senator and boxer is totally different. People loved him as a boxer but when it comes to legislation most of the social media comments I'm reading about him are very degrading. I don't know why people keeps on talking like that and I did see some are remaining to be his supporters forever. It's not about he's scared of the rematch, he actually wants to push it.

Manny has a lot of responsibilities and being a senator is already a big one, a boxer needs to be focus both mentally and emotionally and somehow I could say that Manny has lost some passion in boxing that is why he is now vulnerable to losing. He can fight but he does not possess the some power like before, he is not hungry anymore as he is only up for the money and a little entertainment to the fans.

In addition to that, Manny is not getting any younger anymore. Of course all boxers gets old, but the wear and tear of boxing is already showing in the last couple of years. For me he has still the passion, but the body is not responding to the rigorous training unlike before. He's style of boxing has really contributed to somewhat 'poor' performance against Horn. Although he really, he lacks that killing instinct that many of us loves about Manny Pacquiao. Yes, they are really fight for the money as well and this droves him to fight more.

[Immakillya]

This is an expected rematch since Manny already mentioned about it after the fight. I read that it will be taking place at PH Arena and they're already eyeing for the fight date here. Let's see who will win this time. We've seen how the fight & judgement have done before, hoping to be fair this time.

That's a good news if that happen. Paquiao always fighting overseas. Why not fighting in front of all Filipinos. Also Phillipine Arena is very nice venue for that fight because of it's sitting capacity with 50,000+ sitting capacity, it will occupy a lot people specially those Filipinos who supports Paquiao. Paquiao still good at it. Actually he can finish Horn at 9th round. But he is so tired. Paquiao just got robbed. If you see the stats at of that match, you'll undertand why. Maybe the preparation time is very short for him since he is working at the senate and boxing at the same time. That's very hard, you know.

[thejaytiesto]

Is there any confirmation of a rematch or this is an speculation thread?

A rematch could be a success when it comes to PPV, mainly because if Pacquiao fucks up again and doesn't clearly win over Horn, his career is pretty much over at that point. I mean Horn started boxing professionally at age 18 and he's like a piano teacher or something, this is not the typical young lion that started boxing since age 6 trained by professionals, yet he managed to win Pacquiao, so either he is really good or Pacquiao is really out of shape and as lost its touch and needs to retire.

And I don't think Pacman got robbed, I think Horn did enough to win a split decision.

[deadsilent]

Is there any confirmation of a rematch or this is an speculation thread?

A rematch could be a success when it comes to PPV, mainly because if Pacquiao fucks up again and doesn't clearly win over Horn, his career is pretty much over at that point. I mean Horn started boxing professionally at age 18 and he's like a piano teacher or something, this is not the typical young lion that started boxing since age 6 trained by professionals, yet he managed to win Pacquiao, so either he is really good or Pacquiao is really out of shape and as lost its touch and needs to retire.

And I don't think Pacman got robbed, I think Horn did enough to win a split decision.

Are you kidding me bro? Did you take a look at the stats of the whole match? Horn is missing a lot of punches. Paquiao did a lot of damage to Horn. If you look at the face of Horn after the fight. Horn just got lucky because Paquiao is very tired at the 9th round. Actually it should be stopped by the referee because Horn is responding to punches that manny are being thrown. That's why the commentator lashes out because of that disgusting decision.

[thejaytiesto]

Is there any confirmation of a rematch or this is an speculation thread?

A rematch could be a success when it comes to PPV, mainly because if Pacquiao fucks up again and doesn't clearly win over Horn, his career is pretty much over at that point. I mean Horn started boxing professionally at age 18 and he's like a piano teacher or something, this is not the typical young lion that started boxing since age 6 trained by professionals, yet he managed to win Pacquiao, so either he is really good or Pacquiao is really out of shape and as lost its touch and needs to retire.

And I don't think Pacman got robbed, I think Horn did enough to win a split decision.

Are you kidding me bro? Did you take a look at the stats of the whole match? Horn is missing a lot of punches. Paquiao did a lot of damage to Horn. If you look at the face of Horn after the fight. Horn just got lucky because Paquiao is very tired at the 9th round. Actually it should be stopped by the referee because Horn is responding to punches that manny are being thrown. That's why the commentator lashes out because of that disgusting decision.

Im saying that the fight was not that clearly one sided as some make it to be. Horn did fuck up Pacquiao pretty good in the late rounds and scored a lot of points. Pacquiao throws a lot of punches that don't really count, his volume of punching is really high but not that accurate.

I need to watch the fight again because I dont really remember it now but from watching it live it didn't seem like an outrageous robbery for Pacman in my book.

[YuginKadoya]

Is there any confirmation of a rematch or this is an speculation thread?

A rematch could be a success when it comes to PPV, mainly because if Pacquiao fucks up again and doesn't clearly win over Horn, his career is pretty much over at that point. I mean Horn started boxing professionally at age 18 and he's like a piano teacher or something, this is not the typical young lion that started boxing since age 6 trained by professionals, yet he managed to win Pacquiao, so either he is really good or Pacquiao is really out of shape and as lost its touch and needs to retire.

And I don't think Pacman got robbed, I think Horn did enough to win a split decision.

Are you kidding me bro? Did you take a look at the stats of the whole match? Horn is missing a lot of punches. Paquiao did a lot of damage to Horn. If you look at the face of Horn after the fight. Horn just got lucky because Paquiao is very tired at the 9th round. Actually it should be stopped by the referee because Horn is responding to punches that manny are being thrown. That's why the commentator lashes out because of that disgusting decision.

Im saying that the fight was not that clearly one sided as some make it to be. Horn did fuck up Pacquiao pretty good in the late rounds and scored a lot of points. Pacquiao throws a lot of punches that don't really count, his volume of punching is really high but not that accurate.

I need to watch the fight again because I dont really remember it now but from watching it live it didn't seem like an outrageous robbery for Pacman in my book.

You certainly need to watch the fight again because you didn't consider the fight was a controversial for certain Filipinos, that they had rigged the fight but 2 of the judges score the book in favor of horn, well even I don't believe the score board but I think horn has the upper hand getting much of the rounds and because he has the farther reach than Pacquiao and being younger than him he's showing the heart of a champion. He took Pacquiao’s best shots, refused to fall, and came back swinging, but wish there could be another rematch to really prove that there is no controversy with the fight.

[gabmen]

Is there any confirmation of a rematch or this is an speculation thread?

A rematch could be a success when it comes to PPV, mainly because if Pacquiao fucks up again and doesn't clearly win over Horn, his career is pretty much over at that point. I mean Horn started boxing professionally at age 18 and he's like a piano teacher or something, this is not the typical young lion that started boxing since age 6 trained by professionals, yet he managed to win Pacquiao, so either he is really good or Pacquiao is really out of shape and as lost its touch and needs to retire.

And I don't think Pacman got robbed, I think Horn did enough to win a split decision.

Are you kidding me bro? Did you take a look at the stats of the whole match? Horn is missing a lot of punches. Paquiao did a lot of damage to Horn. If you look at the face of Horn after the fight. Horn just got lucky because Paquiao is very tired at the 9th round. Actually it should be stopped by the referee because Horn is responding to punches that manny are being thrown. That's why the commentator lashes out because of that disgusting decision.

Im saying that the fight was not that clearly one sided as some make it to be. Horn did fuck up Pacquiao pretty good in the late rounds and scored a lot of points. Pacquiao throws a lot of punches that don't really count, his volume of punching is really high but not that accurate.

I need to watch the fight again because I dont really remember it now but from watching it live it didn't seem like an outrageous robbery for Pacman in my book.

You certainly need to watch the fight again because you didn't consider the fight was a controversial for certain Filipinos, that they had rigged the fight but 2 of the judges score the book in favor of horn, well even I don't believe the score board but I think horn has the upper hand getting much of the rounds and because he has the farther reach than Pacquiao and being younger than him he's showing the heart of a champion. He took Pacquiao’s best shots, refused to fall, and came back swinging, but wish there could be another rematch to really prove that there is no controversy with the fight.

I don't think it matters anymore though. Pacquiao's not really that much interesed in it. The whole world watched the first fight and majority have the same conclusion of who won, even the experts. Pacquiao doesn't have much to gain if he agrees to a rematch

[thejaytiesto]

Is there any confirmation of a rematch or this is an speculation thread?

A rematch could be a success when it comes to PPV, mainly because if Pacquiao fucks up again and doesn't clearly win over Horn, his career is pretty much over at that point. I mean Horn started boxing professionally at age 18 and he's like a piano teacher or something, this is not the typical young lion that started boxing since age 6 trained by professionals, yet he managed to win Pacquiao, so either he is really good or Pacquiao is really out of shape and as lost its touch and needs to retire.

And I don't think Pacman got robbed, I think Horn did enough to win a split decision.

Are you kidding me bro? Did you take a look at the stats of the whole match? Horn is missing a lot of punches. Paquiao did a lot of damage to Horn. If you look at the face of Horn after the fight. Horn just got lucky because Paquiao is very tired at the 9th round. Actually it should be stopped by the referee because Horn is responding to punches that manny are being thrown. That's why the commentator lashes out because of that disgusting decision.

Im saying that the fight was not that clearly one sided as some make it to be. Horn did fuck up Pacquiao pretty good in the late rounds and scored a lot of points. Pacquiao throws a lot of punches that don't really count, his volume of punching is really high but not that accurate.

I need to watch the fight again because I dont really remember it now but from watching it live it didn't seem like an outrageous robbery for Pacman in my book.

You certainly need to watch the fight again because you didn't consider the fight was a controversial for certain Filipinos, that they had rigged the fight but 2 of the judges score the book in favor of horn, well even I don't believe the score board but I think horn has the upper hand getting much of the rounds and because he has the farther reach than Pacquiao and being younger than him he's showing the heart of a champion. He took Pacquiao’s best shots, refused to fall, and came back swinging, but wish there could be another rematch to really prove that there is no controversy with the fight.

I don't think it matters anymore though. Pacquiao's not really that much interesed in it. The whole world watched the first fight and majority have the same conclusion of who won, even the experts. Pacquiao doesn't have much to gain if he agrees to a rematch

Well he would redeem himself after losing to a new guy. If at least you win the rematch, you leave it clear that you are still the superior fighter. If it stays like this, Pacquiao should retire. Who is going to want to pay for PPV now that he got beaten by this young new guy which didn't had a single impressive win of top caliber?

It's time for Pacquiao to destroy this guy in a rematch or just retire.

[btc78]

Is there any confirmation of a rematch or this is an speculation thread?

A rematch could be a success when it comes to PPV, mainly because if Pacquiao fucks up again and doesn't clearly win over Horn, his career is pretty much over at that point. I mean Horn started boxing professionally at age 18 and he's like a piano teacher or something, this is not the typical young lion that started boxing since age 6 trained by professionals, yet he managed to win Pacquiao, so either he is really good or Pacquiao is really out of shape and as lost its touch and needs to retire.

And I don't think Pacman got robbed, I think Horn did enough to win a split decision.

Are you kidding me bro? Did you take a look at the stats of the whole match? Horn is missing a lot of punches. Paquiao did a lot of damage to Horn. If you look at the face of Horn after the fight. Horn just got lucky because Paquiao is very tired at the 9th round. Actually it should be stopped by the referee because Horn is responding to punches that manny are being thrown. That's why the commentator lashes out because of that disgusting decision.

Im saying that the fight was not that clearly one sided as some make it to be. Horn did fuck up Pacquiao pretty good in the late rounds and scored a lot of points. Pacquiao throws a lot of punches that don't really count, his volume of punching is really high but not that accurate.

I need to watch the fight again because I dont really remember it now but from watching it live it didn't seem like an outrageous robbery for Pacman in my book.

You certainly need to watch the fight again because you didn't consider the fight was a controversial for certain Filipinos, that they had rigged the fight but 2 of the judges score the book in favor of horn, well even I don't believe the score board but I think horn has the upper hand getting much of the rounds and because he has the farther reach than Pacquiao and being younger than him he's showing the heart of a champion. He took Pacquiao’s best shots, refused to fall, and came back swinging, but wish there could be another rematch to really prove that there is no controversy with the fight.

I don't think it matters anymore though. Pacquiao's not really that much interesed in it. The whole world watched the first fight and majority have the same conclusion of who won, even the experts. Pacquiao doesn't have much to gain if he agrees to a rematch

Well he would redeem himself after losing to a new guy. If at least you win the rematch, you leave it clear that you are still the superior fighter. If it stays like this, Pacquiao should retire. Who is going to want to pay for PPV now that he got beaten by this young new guy which didn't had a single impressive win of top caliber?

It's time for Pacquiao to destroy this guy in a rematch or just retire.

I think the timing of the fight favors Pacquiao. He will still have enough time to really be physically and mental focus for the 2nd fight. He may have underestimated Horn that's why he lost and cannot finished the guy. So the rescheduling of the fight will make time for Pacquiao to rethink, it should be more mental for him now and he needed to win in a convincing fashion like KO Horn then retire for good.

[Noilee]

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

[thejaytiesto]

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

The rematch should not happen in Australia. A lot of people think that Australia judges ere rigged to make Horn win (Horn is Australian). Well this could be or not be true, but to better leave all the conspiracy theories out, the next match should happen in a neutral country, so not Phillipines and not Australia, any other place should do.

And recent news point that it will be in 2018:


http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-confirms-pacquiao-wants-horn-rematch-2018--120057

[TravelMug]

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

The rematch should not happen in Australia. A lot of people think that Australia judges ere rigged to make Horn win (Horn is Australian). Well this could be or not be true, but to better leave all the conspiracy theories out, the next match should happen in a neutral country, so not Phillipines and not Australia, any other place should do.

And recent news point that it will be in 2018:


http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-confirms-pacquiao-wants-horn-rematch-2018--120057

In addition to that, if they held it in the Philippines, the PPV would surely bombed. I consider Las Vegas would be a perfect venue for the fight. American boxing fans would be expose how Horn fight and that the first fight is no fluke, and for Pacquaio to really show the world that he has still has it. So early 2018 would be a good time as well. And just like you said, we want to see Manny destroy this guy for good and claim the belt back.

[yugyug]

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

The rematch should not happen in Australia. A lot of people think that Australia judges ere rigged to make Horn win (Horn is Australian). Well this could be or not be true, but to better leave all the conspiracy theories out, the next match should happen in a neutral country, so not Phillipines and not Australia, any other place should do.

And recent news point that it will be in 2018:


http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-confirms-pacquiao-wants-horn-rematch-2018--120057

In addition to that, if they held it in the Philippines, the PPV would surely bombed. I consider Las Vegas would be a perfect venue for the fight. American boxing fans would be expose how Horn fight and that the first fight is no fluke, and for Pacquaio to really show the world that he has still has it. So early 2018 would be a good time as well. And just like you said, we want to see Manny destroy this guy for good and claim the belt back.

if fight would happen next year, i think Las Vegas is not viable for their rematch. both players are not attractive in the gate sales and ppv revenue to US households because none of them are Americans or Latino fighters and beside Pacquiao's boxing sensation is not as hot as before his great lose to Marquez. The other possible good venue is Dubai, their Royal Family offered their place to some of Pacquiao's previous fight maybe it is the right time to make it happen.

[milewilda]

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

The rematch should not happen in Australia. A lot of people think that Australia judges ere rigged to make Horn win (Horn is Australian). Well this could be or not be true, but to better leave all the conspiracy theories out, the next match should happen in a neutral country, so not Phillipines and not Australia, any other place should do.

And recent news point that it will be in 2018:


http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-confirms-pacquiao-wants-horn-rematch-2018--120057

In addition to that, if they held it in the Philippines, the PPV would surely bombed. I consider Las Vegas would be a perfect venue for the fight. American boxing fans would be expose how Horn fight and that the first fight is no fluke, and for Pacquaio to really show the world that he has still has it. So early 2018 would be a good time as well. And just like you said, we want to see Manny destroy this guy for good and claim the belt back.

if fight would happen next year, i think Las Vegas is not viable for their rematch. both players are not attractive in the gate sales and ppv revenue to US households because none of them are Americans or Latino fighters and beside Pacquiao's boxing sensation is not as hot as before his great lose to Marquez. The other possible good venue is Dubai, their Royal Family offered their place to some of Pacquiao's previous fight maybe it is the right time to make it happen.

Why not Las Vegas? Las Vegas is the best place for match i would like to say that i would prefer Las Vegas.

I would rather believe that venues on where it would be held will be on Las Vegas or Dubai both place would be suit for the fight but speaking about on Philippines i dont think so that they would able to consider that thing but doesnt matter at all on what place it would be held as long we would able to see for this rematch to happen early next year.

[passwordnow]

I think Pacquiao was waiting for their rematch this is what he wants to do and prove themselves to the people who really the champion and deserving. If they rematch Pacquiao will win, because their fight is questionable and most of people says and believe that Pacquiao will won on their fight. And we will know who really is the winner or the champion. Pacquiao become stronger when they rematch again and the champion of their rematch, they really needs to rematch.

No, he doesn't need to prove anything. He's already a title holder and the only one that holds 9 world titles at the same time. This is just about the money and most of the matches now in boxing are just all about money making, try to understand their industry and you'll find out what happen with Floyd vs. Conor and next will be Pacquiao and Horn.

[marcuslong]

They don't want to lose horn because they fight in horns country they don't want embarrassment that is why we see the difference of score  and if paquiao will have rematch to horn hoping that it will be here in philippines so there will be no mafia and no one will cheat the entire scoring board lmao.