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September 20, 2017, 12:18:15 PM
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Well in hindsight, I  think even Arum knows that Pac is going to lose that match due to the judges. You can see his reaction when Pac lost to Bradley in their first fight which was also controversial. Arum raised hell during that time. However, when Pac lost against Horn, he did not even blink. He is just milking Pac until Pac hits retirement.
Bob Arum is trying to milk Pacquiao to the last drop. How we wished that rematch with Horn would have happened sooner than later because as Pacquiao is getting older, Horn is getting more matured and gaining more experience. But whatever happens, win or lose, Pacquiao would still have his fair share of the earnings, so would Uncle Bob. It's all business for these guys nowadays, because both Pacman and Bob Arum are in the twilights of their career and life, respectively.
Manny is a lot better boxer than Jeff. This news have been in the air for a long time now and I think it was going to be hell in Philippines or maybe Brisbane and the date was 9 December. It is far and away from the present date and most probably the rematch would be a fair one.
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September 20, 2017, 11:10:43 PM
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After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?"   Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.
I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.

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September 20, 2017, 11:20:53 PM
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After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?"   Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.
I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.
I agree with you, it cannot compared to the fight of manny because clearly manny won the fight and the fact that the ref give horn a unanimous decision, that is clearly a robbed. The fight of GGG vs Canelo was indeed an entertaining fight and I'm watching it live and based on my scorecard Canelo won the fight as he is doing well in the 2nd half of the rounds.

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September 20, 2017, 11:23:06 PM
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After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?"   Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.
I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.

I agree No one was was robbed on that fight, it was a staged fight Grin.  Winner is already decided right before they stepped inside the ring.  That is boxing, a business and not a sport.  I used to think that boxing indeed is a way of fair judging but i made a conclusion that majority of the boxing matches was rigged.  Including championship fights.  They just want to make things sensationa and controversial so that money will flow in.  Look at that mayweather vs mcgregor fight, that was a complete joke.

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September 21, 2017, 09:17:45 PM
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After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?"   Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.
I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.
I agree with you, it cannot compared to the fight of manny because clearly manny won the fight and the fact that the ref give horn a unanimous decision, that is clearly a robbed. The fight of GGG vs Canelo was indeed an entertaining fight and I'm watching it live and based on my scorecard Canelo won the fight as he is doing well in the 2nd half of the rounds.
No problem we can agree to disagree Grin, but this show to us how close the fight was, when the fight ended I as immediately thinking there was going to be another fight no matter who lost, and then when I found it was an official draw I knew that a rematch was going to happen since both fighters probably thought that they won.

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September 22, 2017, 01:28:06 AM
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After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?"   Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.
I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.
Yeah, i agree with you. The fight was close. I feel the sense of urgency of Canelo at the final round and i think he gets it. Canelo just gassed out after the first half of the fight. GGG did a good job to come back at the second half of the fight. And i think GGG was ahead before the final round 6-5 to GGG. But Canelo got the equalizer. So i think it's a draw. I just don't like the 110-118 score tho. This is clearly proves that boxing is corrupt as hell. These kind of judges should be ban on any matches. It's a disgrace to the sport.
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September 22, 2017, 01:34:33 AM
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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.
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September 22, 2017, 02:39:24 AM
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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather 2? It's impossible for now since the latter already discussed that his last fight would be the bout that happened between him and McGregor. (source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728134-floyd-mayweather-says-conor-mcgregor-fight-is-his-last-talks-legacy-on-call). What I'm excited to see is for Horn to fight Pacquiao's long time rival Marquez. I want to see if Horn could also pump a win on Marquez, which basically one of the fighters that gave the hardest fights for Pacman. (and if possible, I hope it wouldn't be hosted on Australia)
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September 22, 2017, 02:45:54 AM
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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather 2? It's impossible for now since the latter already discussed that his last fight would be the bout that happened between him and McGregor. (source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728134-floyd-mayweather-says-conor-mcgregor-fight-is-his-last-talks-legacy-on-call). What I'm excited to see is for Horn to fight Pacquiao's long time rival Marquez. I want to see if Horn could also pump a win on Marquez, which basically one of the fighters that gave the hardest fights for Pacman. (and if possible, I hope it wouldn't be hosted on Australia)

Well Juan Marquez is already retired and I don't think that he will come back anytime. He already scored a devastating KO win against Pacman and that he's legacy. He has somewhat bragging rights for KO Pacman. I think Horn vs Vargas, or Horn vs Bradley will also be a good test for the champion.

And as far as May-Pac 2? Nah, those two are already in the twilight of their career and as much as Pacman loves a rematch, Mayweather wouldn't do it. He already cemented his legacy with a 50-0 record and will retire for good.

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September 22, 2017, 03:24:37 AM
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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather 2? It's impossible for now since the latter already discussed that his last fight would be the bout that happened between him and McGregor. (source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728134-floyd-mayweather-says-conor-mcgregor-fight-is-his-last-talks-legacy-on-call). What I'm excited to see is for Horn to fight Pacquiao's long time rival Marquez. I want to see if Horn could also pump a win on Marquez, which basically one of the fighters that gave the hardest fights for Pacman. (and if possible, I hope it wouldn't be hosted on Australia)

Well Juan Marquez is already retired and I don't think that he will come back anytime. He already scored a devastating KO win against Pacman and that he's legacy. He has somewhat bragging rights for KO Pacman. I think Horn vs Vargas, or Horn vs Bradley will also be a good test for the champion.

And as far as May-Pac 2? Nah, those two are already in the twilight of their career and as much as Pacman loves a rematch, Mayweather wouldn't do it. He already cemented his legacy with a 50-0 record and will retire for good.

Really he's already retired? what a sad news. I thought I could watch Marquez to fight again. I see, that's why I haven't heard any news on his next fight. If he only can return back and fight Horn, it will be a must-watch fight for the boxing community. Honestly, I like Marquez fights than Mayweather's. The chances for knockouts are higher than those hugging/defend moments of Mayweather.
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September 22, 2017, 04:56:56 AM
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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather 2? It's impossible for now since the latter already discussed that his last fight would be the bout that happened between him and McGregor. (source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728134-floyd-mayweather-says-conor-mcgregor-fight-is-his-last-talks-legacy-on-call). What I'm excited to see is for Horn to fight Pacquiao's long time rival Marquez. I want to see if Horn could also pump a win on Marquez, which basically one of the fighters that gave the hardest fights for Pacman. (and if possible, I hope it wouldn't be hosted on Australia)

Well Juan Marquez is already retired and I don't think that he will come back anytime. He already scored a devastating KO win against Pacman and that he's legacy. He has somewhat bragging rights for KO Pacman. I think Horn vs Vargas, or Horn vs Bradley will also be a good test for the champion.

And as far as May-Pac 2? Nah, those two are already in the twilight of their career and as much as Pacman loves a rematch, Mayweather wouldn't do it. He already cemented his legacy with a 50-0 record and will retire for good.

Really he's already retired? what a sad news. I thought I could watch Marquez to fight again. I see, that's why I haven't heard any news on his next fight. If he only can return back and fight Horn, it will be a must-watch fight for the boxing community. Honestly, I like Marquez fights than Mayweather's. The chances for knockouts are higher than those hugging/defend moments of Mayweather.

Yes, Marquez has been long retired mate. But I think Arum and Pacquaio are trying to lure him to come back and fight Pacquaio once again. We all know the history between the two and Pacquaio really wants to avenged his devastating lost to him. But unfortunately, Marquez won't budged because he win by KO although some say that Marquez is roided as fucked when they fight. You may want to google his physique before and during the fight and see it for your self. He even had Memo in him the guy who is associated with the BALCO scandal in sports.









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September 22, 2017, 09:08:08 PM
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After Canelo vs GGG, Manny Pacquiao went on twitter and said:

Manny Pacquiao: "Did they bring these judges over from australia?"   Cheesy

I haven't seen Canelo vs GGG yet. With everyone saying GGG won and was robbed by the judges, I thought that was a hysterical comment from Pacman.

Definitely looking forward to this rematch. So far behind on my tape watching, I still haven't seen the first one. Need to step up my game.
I saw the Canelo vs GGG fight and if you have not then you should do it was a good fight, but I do not think he was robbed, the fight was a close fight, some people saw Canelo winning the fight and some people saw the opposite, personally I saw GGG winning the fight 115 vs 113 and that was one of the scores of the judges but since the fight was so close I do not think anyone was robbed.
Yeah, i agree with you. The fight was close. I feel the sense of urgency of Canelo at the final round and i think he gets it. Canelo just gassed out after the first half of the fight. GGG did a good job to come back at the second half of the fight. And i think GGG was ahead before the final round 6-5 to GGG. But Canelo got the equalizer. So i think it's a draw. I just don't like the 110-118 score tho. This is clearly proves that boxing is corrupt as hell. These kind of judges should be ban on any matches. It's a disgrace to the sport.
Yeah I thought the same, when the first score was read and the announcer said 118-110, I was like none of the fighters won that many rounds what is he thinking? The two other scores the one that gave the win to GGG and the one with the draw were a lot more close to what happened on the ring.

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September 22, 2017, 11:10:54 PM
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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

That Mayweather - Pacquiao 2 match is not very visible for now and many did forget about this match as Mayweather isn't open with any negotiations with the PacMan team. Floyd seems to be a fighter for money and not a fighter for his own reputation. His money is his reputation and he is a social climber. I just really hated it when I saw him win against Pacquiao, I hate that decision.

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September 23, 2017, 01:18:10 AM
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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.

That Mayweather - Pacquiao 2 match is not very visible for now and many did forget about this match as Mayweather isn't open with any negotiations with the PacMan team. Floyd seems to be a fighter for money and not a fighter for his own reputation. His money is his reputation and he is a social climber. I just really hated it when I saw him win against Pacquiao, I hate that decision.

Its been 2 years since the fight dude. Just move forward, I also hated Mayweather but it is what it is. If they fought on their prime it would be different. But he waited for the perfect time before fighting Manny. He should have fought when Manny is banging big guys. But Floyd is wise. Imagine a version of Manny that fought Miguel Cotto or Dela Hoya. I think the outcome would favor Pacquiao. But this time Pacquiao should KO Horn or win in a convincing way before retiring for good.

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September 26, 2017, 05:44:42 PM
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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.
I do not think we are going to see that fight again, Mayweather got what he wanted, he waited and delayed the fight until he thought he will be able to avoid Manny’s fists and speed, I do not like Mayweather but he is smart and was able to avoid fighting Manny at his best.

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September 26, 2017, 06:12:11 PM
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This will be a disgrace for Mr. Pacquaio if ever he losses again for the second time against Horn. I'm thinking if the boxing industry wants to build another Floyd Mayweather, I mean a fighter that has 0 loss. And I can see it possible with Horn, this industry now is not entertaining anymore as it's obvious that they are for promotion, PPV and other shares.
money will always be the major things for every sport events and there are a lot of money involved almost on every boxing event and i'm pretty sure most of people who already bets for Mayweather match will got a lot of money too because 0 losses during his career but regarding this match i'm slightly worried that Horn will win maybe with unanimous decision again and possibly you said is true that this is another scenario to made new Mayweather

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September 27, 2017, 12:29:42 AM
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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.
I do not think we are going to see that fight again, Mayweather got what he wanted, he waited and delayed the fight until he thought he will be able to avoid Manny’s fists and speed, I do not like Mayweather but he is smart and was able to avoid fighting Manny at his best.

It will be only a tale for now. Very impossible to see him fight together again with Mayweather. Manny Pacquiao is a real fighter and he really wants a rematch with him and he deserved that challenge. Floyd Mayweather is a typical wiser athlete, he knows how to run business and how to keep his reputation. He doesn't care with the people's reaction as long as he knows what he's doing and it will benefit him, that is what giving matters to him.
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September 27, 2017, 12:33:41 AM
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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.
I do not think we are going to see that fight again, Mayweather got what he wanted, he waited and delayed the fight until he thought he will be able to avoid Manny’s fists and speed, I do not like Mayweather but he is smart and was able to avoid fighting Manny at his best.

It will be only a tale for now. Very impossible to see him fight together again with Mayweather. Manny Pacquiao is a real fighter and he really wants a rematch with him and he deserved that challenge. Floyd Mayweather is a typical wiser athlete, he knows how to run business and how to keep his reputation. He doesn't care with the people's reaction as long as he knows what he's doing and it will benefit him, that is what giving matters to him.
True and its all against the odds, He don't want to lose his statistics title but if we compare his fights to manny pacquiao ,he is too much far from each other whose Mayweather using his being wise and run while Manny is using a true power and speed.


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September 27, 2017, 12:43:47 AM
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If Marquez watched that fight, and Manny sour-graping about the judges decision that he was robbed, then probably Marquez would laugh at him and saying  "I feel you bro, i feel you, i have clearly won all the fights between us but i was totally robbed".
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September 27, 2017, 01:31:58 AM
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As much as I would love to see Senator Manny to fight Horn again, I would rather see another opponent than Horn, specially if the fight will be staged at Australia again. If there will be a Paquaio Vs Mayweather 2 that would be awesome but I hope there would be more action unlike their first meeting.
I do not think we are going to see that fight again, Mayweather got what he wanted, he waited and delayed the fight until he thought he will be able to avoid Manny’s fists and speed, I do not like Mayweather but he is smart and was able to avoid fighting Manny at his best.

It will be only a tale for now. Very impossible to see him fight together again with Mayweather. Manny Pacquiao is a real fighter and he really wants a rematch with him and he deserved that challenge. Floyd Mayweather is a typical wiser athlete, he knows how to run business and how to keep his reputation. He doesn't care with the people's reaction as long as he knows what he's doing and it will benefit him, that is what giving matters to him.
True and its all against the odds, He don't want to lose his statistics title but if we compare his fights to manny pacquiao ,he is too much far from each other whose Mayweather using his being wise and run while Manny is using a true power and speed.

I admire Horn more instead of admiring Mayweather, he's really annoying me though he's a wise one. I know this is real sports and it's not just about your body and strength but it's all about on how you think and how wise you are. Mayweather is really pissing a lot of Manny Pacquiao fans because he doesn't want to have a rematch on him even the part sharing will be 70%-30% / 60% -40%
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