Jack's Bitcoin Investing Service

[Jackolantern]

Jackolantern's Bitcoin Investing

This service is offered for those of you looking to make an investment in the near future. I give to you a massive opportunity to make some real bank.
I own shares of a Bitcoin Trading Platform as well as an online bitcoin casino, I own multiple other deeds that I'm positive will increase in value over time. I have studied finances for more than 2 years now and I've been really effective at what I'm doing. As a financial planner I will invest your Bitcoins into my own businesses or other projects I believe will get a good return of investment over time.

Current State of the fund (25.082017, updated weekly)
Currently Invested: 0.3459000BTC
Current Investors: 1

AVG. ROI Predictions for 2017:
Daily: 0.06%
Weekly: 0.425%
Monthly: 1.695%
Yearly: 20.35%

My personnal AVG. ROI for March, April, May, June, July:
Daily: 0.145%
Weekly: 1.015%
Monthly: 4.06%
Yearly: 48.72%


I will add weekly statements of the overall fund with the following details about the fund:
- Bitcoin Total fund: (total of the currently invested bitcoins)
- New Investors: (total of new investors since last statement)
- AVG. Investment per investor: (If you're curious)
- This week's profit: (Weekly Profit of the fund)
- ROI this week: (Return On Investment this week)
- AVG ROI(day): (The average ROI/day for this week)

RULES:
(1) When investing into my fund, you accept the fact that I'm taking 0,78% of weekly profit made as salary for managing the fund, investments and deeds. Yes I did put this first in Rules so no one would miss it. I can't offer this for free.
(2) If you invest into my fund, you accept all the decisions I make concerning where I decide to invest the funds.
(3) The fund will be rebalanced weekly and re-invested into the fund
(4) Do not ask for a receipt, you will receive it weekly the day after the fund gets balanced.

GLOBAL INFORMATION:
(1) The MINIMUM Investment is 0.005BTC And the MAXIMUM is 0.25BTC per investor at the moment (25.082017)
(2) You will receive a personal receipt by e-mail weekly, indicating your current fund shares (%) (balance) and your average ROI.
(3) Withdrawals will be made weekly upon request and will be given with weekly receipt.

FAQ:
Q: What's the minimum/maximum investment ?
A: 0.005BTC/0.25BTCmontly (per investor) (is subject to change in the future)

Q: What is ROI?
A: Return On Investment, Wikipedia.

Q: Compound Interest ?
A: The fund is rebalanced weekly and all portfolios are automatically reinvested weekly (Weekly Compound).

Q: Any other questions ? Ask away
A: Feel free to ask any and they will be answered and added here.

A: Who covers fees of transactions?
A:The amount I receive from you will be the amount that is going to show up in your receipt, for instance if you send me 0,005BTC and I only receive 0,0049BTC, only 0,0049BTCwill show up in your next receipt. But for investing them and moving them after that, I am the one covering the fees, you will only have to pay the fees from you to me. And when you're going to withdraw, I will cover the fees as well. I think it's fair and less complicated that way.[/color]

Contact Methods:
Bitcointalk Private Messaging
An e-mail will be added eventually for support inquiries.

Best Regards, Jackolantern.

[Jackolantern]

reserved for weekly overall fund statements

[Vod]

AVG. ROI Predictions for 2017:
Daily: 0.06%
Weekly: 0.425%
Monthly: 1.695%
Yearly: 20.35%

Like most of you "professional investors", you fail to take into account compound interest.  (Makes me wonder if you understand finance at all.)  If you pay daily, you have to account for people redepositing their sum + interest over and over.

I'd like to see you repost those figures taking the worst case (smartest investor) scenario.

[Shova]

AVG. ROI Predictions for 2017:
Daily: 0.06%
Weekly: 0.425%
Monthly: 1.695%
Yearly: 20.35%

Like most of you "professional investors", you fail to take into account compound interest.  (Makes me wonder if you understand finance at all.)  If you pay daily, you have to account for people redepositing their sum + interest over and over.

I'd like to see you repost those figures taking the worst case (smartest investor) scenario.

So, it will be just one time investment?
and the payout time, any or fixed?

[Jackolantern]

AVG. ROI Predictions for 2017:
Daily: 0.06%
Weekly: 0.425%
Monthly: 1.695%
Yearly: 20.35%

Like most of you "professional investors", you fail to take into account compound interest.  (Makes me wonder if you understand finance at all.)  If you pay daily, you have to account for people redepositing their sum + interest over and over.

I'd like to see you repost those figures taking the worst case (smartest investor) scenario.

I'm pretty sure my thread was self-explanatory, but I'll give you the answers you're looking for. In this case it is compounded weekly, as mentioned above the profit of the initial investment(current balance) produced re-invests itself if it's not withdrawn. You can read the rule number 3 on my thread, I used the word rebalanced so it would be much more simple to new investors. Let's pretend you're an investor, you decide to invest 0.01BTC into my service on September 1st. (Friday) (FYI. I balance and produce the weekly receipts on Friday so they're ready to be sent on Saturday) you will receive your first personal receipt/statement on September 8th. The Average ROI Predictions I posted for 2017 are one of the worst scenario you could possibly get, the lowest would be a yearly 9.34%, guaranteed.

Let's use my Average ROI Predictions for 2017 (September to January 1st) to show you an example:

It's September 8th, at this point your investment of 0.01 would of grown by 0.425%, wich is an increase of 0.00004250BTC. Here would be your statement (The actual statement you would receive would be different, this is an example so you can understand):

INVESTMENT RECEIPT (01.092017 - 08.092017)
RECEIPT FOR PORTFOLIO 29809a - Vod
Last Week's Balance: 0.01000000BTC
Current Balance: 0.01004250BTC
Past Week Profit: 0.00004250BTC
Past Week ROI: 0.425%
Daily ROI Average: 0.06%
__________________________________________

The Profit made is automatically reinvested and added to your portfolio balance, for the next 7 days 0.01004250 will be invested.
Short Answer, it is Weekly Compound Interest.

I hope your question has been answered Vod.

So, it will be just one time investment?
and the payout time, any or fixed?

It is not a one time investment, you can invest daily at any time (maximum investment monthly is 0.25BTC per Investor) and you will receive a receipt by e-mail showing how much you now have on your Portfolio.
You can ask a withdraw at any time and it will be proceeded on the next Saturday, you will also receive your receipt at the same time.

If you have any other questions, I will answer them.
Best Regards, Jackolantern.

[musbeto]

AVG. ROI Predictions for 2017:
Daily: 0.06%
Weekly: 0.425%
Monthly: 1.695%
Yearly: 20.35%

Like most of you "professional investors", you fail to take into account compound interest.  (Makes me wonder if you understand finance at all.)  If you pay daily, you have to account for people redepositing their sum + interest over and over.

I'd like to see you repost those figures taking the worst case (smartest investor) scenario.

Being an investor, I'm skeptical about it, it really brings real benefits. I find it looks like ponzi which is prohibited here.

[Jackolantern]

Being an investor, I'm skeptical about it, it really brings real benefits. I find it looks like ponzi which is prohibited here.

This Investing service isn't a Ponzi, the overall weekly statement (wich will be posted on my reserved post up there) will say how much the overall fund is at, you can withdraw at any time and there is no withdrawal limit (other than your portfolio balance, of course. You can't withdraw what you don't have.) Funds will never ever be suspended and will be available at any given time.

If you have any questions, do not hesitate.
Best Regards, Jackolantern.

[bitbollo]

your rate are not good   at least ... for me.
If you check on yobit, you can find an easily 0,2 % DAILY for a minimum investment of 0,01 btc.

ROI prediction:
Daily: 0.2%
Weekly: 1.4% (+ little interest from past earning)
Monthly: 6%  (+ little interest from past earning)
Yearly: 72%  (+ little interest from past earning)

Your ROI prediction:
Daily: 0.06%
Weekly: 0.425%
Monthly: 1.695%
Yearly: 20.35%

So, probably most of people are scared to use this exchange, because they have a bad support, delist some coins without alert and so on...
But personally I can trust more their service and not yours.
Kind regards

[musbeto]

Being an investor, I'm skeptical about it, it really brings real benefits. I find it looks like ponzi which is prohibited here.

This Investing service isn't a Ponzi, the overall weekly statement (wich will be posted on my reserved post up there) will say how much the overall fund is at, you can withdraw at any time and there is no withdrawal limit (other than your portfolio balance, of course. You can't withdraw what you don't have.) Funds will never ever be suspended and will be available at any given time.

If you have any questions, do not hesitate.
Best Regards, Jackolantern.

It seems I misunderstood your investing service, It seems I misunderstood your portfolio, but you can tell me which casino site I will invest , I will not risk if I do not know about it.

[Jackolantern]

your rate are not good   at least ... for me.
If you check on yobit, you can find an easily 0,2 % DAILY for a minimum investment of 0,01 btc.

ROI prediction:
Daily: 0.2%
Weekly: 1.4% (+ little interest from past earning)
Monthly: 6%  (+ little interest from past earning)
Yearly: 72%  (+ little interest from past earning)

Your ROI prediction:
Daily: 0.06%
Weekly: 0.425%
Monthly: 1.695%
Yearly: 20.35%

So, probably most of people are scared to use this exchange, because they have a bad support, delist some coins without alert and so on...
But personally I can trust more their service and not yours.
Kind regards

The ROI Predictions present on my thread are near to the worst scenario like I answered another user earlier. If you'd like me to give you what I've personally gained in the last months, this is my average ROI:

March, April, May, June, July:
Daily: 0.145%
Weekly: 1.015%
Monthly: 4.06%
Yearly: 48.72%

Also, I'm really skeptical that yobit can provide the same ROI Percentage all the time, I offer more personal portfolios for investors. Investments sometimes make money, some of them lose money, especially investments on Stocks. You can't guarantee investments will make profit/large profit every year, but what you can do is invest in multiple assets to protect yourself against huge losses, wich I do. I offer diversity and safety, wich is pretty hard to do, and it consumes time.

I hope I cleared it up for you Bitbollo.
Kind Regards.

Being an investor, I'm skeptical about it, it really brings real benefits. I find it looks like ponzi which is prohibited here.

This Investing service isn't a Ponzi, the overall weekly statement (wich will be posted on my reserved post up there) will say how much the overall fund is at, you can withdraw at any time and there is no withdrawal limit (other than your portfolio balance, of course. You can't withdraw what you don't have.) Funds will never ever be suspended and will be available at any given time.

If you have any questions, do not hesitate.
Best Regards, Jackolantern.

It seems I misunderstood your investing service, It seems I misunderstood your portfolio, but you can tell me which casino site I will invest , I will not risk if I do not know about it.

Please contact me via Private Message to discuss about my personal assets.
Kind Regards, Jackolantern.

[bitbollo]

The ROI Predictions present on my thread are near to the worst scenario like I answered another user earlier. If you'd like me to give you what I've personally gained in the last months, this is my average ROI:

March, April, May, June, July:
Daily: 0.145%
Weekly: 1.015%
Monthly: 4.06%
Yearly: 48.72%

Even in your best scenario they make a better profit.
Personally I use their deposit option just to "park" some btc/altcoins, I don't use for long term / big amount.

Also, I'm really skeptical that yobit can provide the same ROI Percentage all the time,
...

They can stop (as TOS) their offer in any moment (but this means you don't lose your money, just you get back your investment + ROI).
Of course no one could get a sure ROI in long term prediction. Just speculation... For example they have closed LTC ROI (daily 0,2 %) to re-open @ 0,1 %.

I offer more personal portfolios for investors. Investments sometimes make money, some of them lose money, especially investments on Stocks. You can't guarantee investments will make profit/large profit every year, but what you can do is invest in multiple assets, wich I do. I offer diversity and safety, wich is pretty hard to do, and it consumes time.

I hope I cleared it up for you Bitbollo.
Kind Regards.

Invest in multiple assets it's a good choice, but this not mean you can achieve a sure gain. You are just diversifying your investment, and if you choose wisely you can earn a good %. Even as stated before, the service that I have mentioned, it's just one of tens of similar services.
And this way to "invest" altcoins, is just one of other way to invest (diversifying) an investment...

I hope you can earn good with your service, but offering some offer to public is not easy at all.

[Jackolantern]

@Bitbollo I understand the point you're making, keep in mind that my service offers a Weekly Compound, rebalancing everyone's balance weekly, re-investing their profit, I also provide weekly withdrawals, there's no 1-week, 1-month, 6-month or 1-year plans here, you're more free to do as you please and I am online nearly 24/7 to offer the best support. Thanks for replying to my thread and I hope I cleared all that up.

Even in your best scenario they make a better profit.
Personally I use their deposit option just to "park" some btc/altcoins, I don't use for long term / big amount.

Saying "Even in your best scenario they make better profit" is considered trashing my service and advertising another on my thread, so please do not do that again.

Kind Regards, Jackolantern.

[bitbollo]

I don't want advertise any service, or blame yours. These arguments... are just ... math?!

I have other questions, about tx fees:
if you accept 0,005 btc as minimum, how you can address the tx fees? Some times around 0,001 btc ?
did you have already counted in your plan? and even who will pay?
If you "move" this btc you need to pay other 2 tx fees (go in - go out). If you don't ... you don't need any investment!

Last questions, about guarantee:
What if you can't cover back (like a big loss, a big dump on some of your trade)
You can cover by your self the funds? Any collaterals?

BTW feel free to not reply anymore, I hope you can earn good and that's it

PS: did you make trading or ...what ?!

[Jackolantern]

I don't want advertise any service, or blame yours. These arguments... are just ... math?!

I have other questions, about tx fees:
if you accept 0,005 btc as minimum, how you can address the tx fees? Some times around 0,001 btc ?
did you have already counted in your plan? and even who will pay?
If you "move" this btc you need to pay other 2 tx fees (go in - go out). If you don't ... you don't need any investment!

Last questions, about guarantee:
What if you can't cover back (like a big loss, a big dump on some of your trade)
You can cover by your self the funds? Any collaterals?

BTW feel free to not reply anymore, I hope you can earn good and that's it

PS: did you make trading or ...what ?!

The amount I receive from you will be the amount that is going to show up in your receipt, for instance if you send me 0,005BTC and I only receive 0,0049BTC, only 0,0049BTCwill show up in your next receipt. But for investing them and moving them after that, I am the one covering the fees, you will only have to pay the fees from you to me. And when you're going to withdraw, I will cover the fees as well. I think it's fair and less complicated that way. Added to FAQ Section.

Yes, trading is also one of the investment I make.
Kind Regards, Jackolantern.

[bitbollo]

thank you for this explanation

The amount I receive from you will be the amount that is going to show up in your receipt, for instance if you send me 0,005BTC and I only receive 0,0049BTC, only 0,0049BTCwill show up in your next receipt. But for investing them and moving them after that, I am the one covering the fees, you will only have to pay the fees from you to me. And when you're going to withdraw, I will cover the fees as well. I think it's fair and less complicated that way. Added to FAQ Section.

Yes, trading is also one of the investment I make.
Kind Regards, Jackolantern.

Probably your rate now sounds more reasonable to me.
Good luck!

[Jackolantern]

thank you for this explanation
Probably your rate now sounds more reasonable to me.
Good luck!

Thank you.

Kind Regards, Jackolantern.

[olubams]

your rate are not good   at least ... for me.
If you check on yobit, you can find an easily 0,2 % DAILY for a minimum investment of 0,01 btc.

ROI prediction:
Daily: 0.2%
Weekly: 1.4% (+ little interest from past earning)
Monthly: 6%  (+ little interest from past earning)
Yearly: 72%  (+ little interest from past earning)

Your ROI prediction:
Daily: 0.06%
Weekly: 0.425%
Monthly: 1.695%
Yearly: 20.35%

So, probably most of people are scared to use this exchange, because they have a bad support, delist some coins without alert and so on...
But personally I can trust more their service and not yours.
Kind regards

I don't think there is a need for this at all. If you won't trust his service then go through with it but not coming to advertise another service just to press home your point. I am not speaking for OP as what I am after is what he use those funds for and how he intends to make that return no matter how small, he should do what he can afford and not scam anybod and also in a case where the trades you make result in a loss, how do you intend to make it up to you clients?.

[jambola2]

Bitbollo seems to be on the right track... Transaction fees eat too much at small investment amounts.
Assuming a transaction fee of 0.0005 when sending the BTC, even at a 0.1 BTC investment, you will be in the red after a one week investment.

Unless you expect people to deposit amounts above 0.1 BTC (despite you being relatively new to this), or deposit for extremely long periods of time, I can't see why this would be good.

And all of this doesn't even take into account the chance that you might not hit the promised rate....

[bitbollo]

I don't think there is a need for this at all. If you won't trust his service then go through with it but not coming to advertise another service just to press home your point. I am not speaking for OP as what I am after is what he use those funds for and how he intends to make that return no matter how small, he should do what he can afford and not scam anybod and also in a case where the trades you make result in a loss, how do you intend to make it up to you clients?.

olubams you're not new in this forum.
So you know how much people scam here (and this argument is absolutely not related to Jack!!!). I can't say nothing bad about him.
 
Perhaps for what I have seen here, it's perfectly normal not trust an user that ask 0,25 btc without any collateral mentioned (and with an account worth less 0,01 btc).

This is why I have reported "personally  I can trust more their service and not yours. "

I think should reasonable understand how this money are used and invested.

As posted by jambola2, tx fees are a SERIOUS issues for btc users. (for all USERS not only Jack).
Also slow tx are another issues, and here we're not addressing that in this topic (e.g. taking into account you make a tx with right time to deposit / withdraw ).

These are just "arguments"  , Jack is not a professional trader, and is really easy lose money running a service like this.

[Jackolantern]

Bitbollo seems to be on the right track... Transaction fees eat too much at small investment amounts.
Assuming a transaction fee of 0.0005 when sending the BTC, even at a 0.1 BTC investment, you will be in the red after a one week investment.

Unless you expect people to deposit amounts above 0.1 BTC (despite you being relatively new to this), or deposit for extremely long periods of time, I can't see why this would be good.

And all of this doesn't even take into account the chance that you might not hit the promised rate....

Thanks for replying to my thread. My answer to this is that you should take a look at my FAQ Section, after answering someone's question I basically answered any question about fees, I think it's just natural that the investor pays the fees when depositing into my service as I promised to cover the fees when the investors would ask for withdrawals, I think the rate is fair, considering you only have to invest once, and you can withdraw multiple times (meaning I would cover more fees for the Investor after a long amount of time)

Concerning the rates I announced (important word), I might go above the quota, or under it, but if there is a huge loss, I have enough of my own funds to cover it. Remember this is still investing, it has risks. My service just minimizes the risks by investing on multiple assets, and a backup fund is even ready for any problems. (There is a max deposit/month(per investor) for a reason. I'll never accept a deposit if I can't cover it if something happens)

Hope I cleared everything up for you jambola2.
Kind regards, Jackolantern.

your rate are not good   at least ... for me.
If you check on yobit, you can find an easily 0,2 % DAILY for a minimum investment of 0,01 btc.

ROI prediction:
Daily: 0.2%
Weekly: 1.4% (+ little interest from past earning)
Monthly: 6%  (+ little interest from past earning)
Yearly: 72%  (+ little interest from past earning)

Your ROI prediction:
Daily: 0.06%
Weekly: 0.425%
Monthly: 1.695%
Yearly: 20.35%

So, probably most of people are scared to use this exchange, because they have a bad support, delist some coins without alert and so on...
But personally I can trust more their service and not yours.
Kind regards

I don't think there is a need for this at all. If you won't trust his service then go through with it but not coming to advertise another service just to press home your point. I am not speaking for OP as what I am after is what he use those funds for and how he intends to make that return no matter how small, he should do what he can afford and not scam anybod and also in a case where the trades you make result in a loss, how do you intend to make it up to you clients?.

Thanks for your answer olubams.
To answer your question, everything is not about trading, I would say trading only takes 4-6% of what I'm investing on, if my trading would result in a loss, the other investments would make up for it, and if not, my backup fund will be able to handle it well.

Hope I cleared everything up for you as well, if any other questions, go ahead and feel free to ask.

@Bitbollo I would appreciate if you could stop arguing on this thread, please do so in private message with the other user, I'd like to keep this thread and replies as clean as possible without having to find a moderator to delete posts. But to answer you, no I am not a professional trader, but I do have about a year of experience in it, and if any loss as mentioned above, I have a backup fund. Also I won't be trading all the time, if I don't see any opportunities, I won't take them and focus on my other assets. As mentioned as well, trading only occupies 4-6% of all what I'm investing on.


Kind regards, Jackolantern.