Xbox One

[Korbman]

I partially agree with most of the sentiment here. I think Xbox One will be great for casual gamers who are more focused on keeping entertainment in their livingroom / common area.

Me, on the other hand..when I sit down to play some games, I'm not interested in swapping back and forth to TV, movies, or whatnot (though a browser may be handy if I need to look something up while playing). I'm more concerned with the power of the hardware behind the scenes, and I'd like to see something that'll be able to render some fine looking games faster and crisper than ever before seen. So far, it just looks like Microsoft has been buying PS3s, putting that hardware into a new case, and branding it as an Xbox.

Let's see where E3 takes us I suppose.

EDIT: This may help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw 

[Schrankwand]

The Xbox 360 has Bern an awesome console and and my pov the one is likely to geht the standard up for some time, as before.


Current gen consoles have gone toe to toe with PCs for some time before loosing the fight over ram and GPUs.
The console will be great, like the one before.

But from another point of view, this is a nightmare. A real one
Used games? Fuck you customer, if you lend your friend a game, he cant play it without your account. Or needs to buy it.
Oh and kinect is mandatory now. The company that brought us the great Skype spying scandal does now want us to have a device always on that always tracks you and even measures your heartbeat.

Oh, and of course you need to login all the time and brand your game to an account. So when your provided cuts off the net for some reason (thanks one and one for this ridiculous experience of no internet for four weeks because your customer service was relentlessly stupid and deleted my service requests and technician appointments every time my router had a five minute connection...), then it decided you cannot play.

Lately, I lost three hours of gaming in far cry three in coop with my girlfriend because it just stops the coop when you loose the connection. Microsoft wants this for everyone now!


What a fucking shame. The games will be awesome. The console up to date and nice. But a console that does not boot up without its microphone that always collects data? Sorry, but Herr a big fuck you to Microsoft is in order. We have only used our kinect on parties and otherwise disconnected it. What the fuck, the mike is always on. I don't want my console listening to me all day...

[manfred]

What a fucking shame. The games will be awesome. The console up to date and nice. But a console that does not boot up without its microphone that always collects data? Sorry, but Herr a big fuck you to Microsoft is in order. We have only used our kinect on parties and otherwise disconnected it. What the fuck, the mike is always on. I don't want my console listening to me all day...

How do u know that xbox 360 and kinect not already collect data and sent it back to ms when its on. Xbox on(e) is just a blatant piece of spying equipment. Nothing to do with having hours of fun with cutting edge, innovative and serious gaming. Just remakes of same old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

Xbox, go home.

Yes, supporting a dying medium (television) is is a good move, ms??

[Schrankwand]

What a fucking shame. The games will be awesome. The console up to date and nice. But a console that does not boot up without its microphone that always collects data? Sorry, but Herr a big fuck you to Microsoft is in order. We have only used our kinect on parties and otherwise disconnected it. What the fuck, the mike is always on. I don't want my console listening to me all day...

How do u know that xbox 360 and kinect not already collect data and sent it back to ms when its on. Xbox on(e) is just a blatant piece of spying equipment. Nothing to do with having hours of fun with cutting edge, innovative and serious gaming. Just remakes of same old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

Xbox, go home.

Yes, supporting a dying medium (television) is is a good move, ms??

Because i tend to detach kinect when i am not using it


New Xbox wont boot without it...

[Bush]

Will games be all digital eliminating the discs?

[Schrankwand]

Will games be all digital eliminating the discs?

No, bluray. But you have to install them and bind them to your account.

[Bush]

Will games be all digital eliminating the discs?

No, bluray. But you have to install them and bind them to your account.

Whats the point in that?

[Schrankwand]

Will games be all digital eliminating the discs?

No, bluray. But you have to install them and bind them to your account.

Whats the point in that?

You can't sell the games anymore. Or lend them to a buddy. Because he cant play if the serial isn't bound to his account.

[Bush]

Will games be all digital eliminating the discs?

No, bluray. But you have to install them and bind them to your account.

Whats the point in that?

You can't sell the games anymore. Or lend them to a buddy. Because he cant play if the serial isn't bound to his account.

That would also eliminate rentals correct?

[Schrankwand]

Will games be all digital eliminating the discs?

No, bluray. But you have to install them and bind them to your account.

Whats the point in that?

You can't sell the games anymore. Or lend them to a buddy. Because he cant play if the serial isn't bound to his account.

That would also eliminate rentals correct?

Yup.

[Korbman]

New Xbox wont boot without it [the kinect]...

No, bluray. But you have to install them and bind them to your account.

You can't sell the games anymore. Or lend them to a buddy. Because he cant play if the serial isn't bound to his account.

That would also eliminate rentals correct?

Yup.

Alright..I read through this bit and am quite surprised I'm the first to ask..but where's your source, or are you just making this up as you go? I'm pretty sure half these rumors were debunked ages ago..

[Schrankwand]

New Xbox wont boot without it [the kinect]...

No, bluray. But you have to install them and bind them to your account.

You can't sell the games anymore. Or lend them to a buddy. Because he cant play if the serial isn't bound to his account.

That would also eliminate rentals correct?

Yup.

Alright..I read through this bit and am quite surprised I'm the first to ask..but where's your source, or are you just making this up as you go? I'm pretty sure half these rumors were debunked ages ago..

Official Xbox reveal and the manager's twitter account?

[Korbman]

Alright..I read through this bit and am quite surprised I'm the first to ask..but where's your source, or are you just making this up as you go? I'm pretty sure half these rumors were debunked ages ago..

Official Xbox reveal and the manager's twitter account?

Watched the Xbox reveal twice and all they did was blab on about TV and CoD.

Looked through the MS twitter accounts, but I can't seem to find anything, for example, that backs up "You can't sell the games anymore. Or lend them to a buddy. Because he cant play if the serial isn't bound to his account." Maybe a direct link would help?

[Schrankwand]

Alright..I read through this bit and am quite surprised I'm the first to ask..but where's your source, or are you just making this up as you go? I'm pretty sure half these rumors were debunked ages ago..

Official Xbox reveal and the manager's twitter account?

Watched the Xbox reveal twice and all they did was blab on about TV and CoD.

Looked through the MS twitter accounts, but I can't seem to find anything, for example, that backs up "You can't sell the games anymore. Or lend them to a buddy. Because he cant play if the serial isn't bound to his account." Maybe a direct link would help?

http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825

This one sums it up well, includes officials and James.

[Korbman]

Watched the Xbox reveal twice and all they did was blab on about TV and CoD.

Looked through the MS twitter accounts, but I can't seem to find anything, for example, that backs up "You can't sell the games anymore. Or lend them to a buddy. Because he cant play if the serial isn't bound to his account." Maybe a direct link would help?

http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825

This one sums it up well, includes officials and James.

Nice, thanks.

So it's sort of the same thing that Steam/Valve has done for years. At first thought, it's kind of BS that they'd make you jump through these sort of hoops to play games with other people...but it may not be so bad so long as they keep with the Valve model (price cuts / fire-sales where games are $5-10 after a few months).

It just really sucks that I'd have to "pay a fee" (i.e. "buy the game") if I want to borrow a game from my friend. That's not something I agree with.

[bennett616]

PS1 Is better....

Andy B

[runam0k]

This.

Im actually not much of a PC gamer, unless you count Minecraft. I was however a pretty big Xbox fanboy. I just could not find anything significant during the premier. Yay, more CoD and n-th sports games. Oh a "premium" Halo tv series... The switching thing is nice, but seems more like a parlor trick than something worthy of a console. Unless they have something else pretty big up their sleeve for E3, I think they just made the Wii-U a lot cooler.

This is what I don't get.  An Xbox fanboy but suddenly you're doubting the next Xbox?

8 years of solid service, great games and great Xbox Live and now no confidence?

I see it this way: MS had an awful lot to cover in a relatively short period of time.  They wanted to cover all the bases and they did.  The biggest games show on earth starts in 17 days' time.  Why would they go OTT revealing all their biggest games now?  (They still managed to show an original IP, a new Forza and a full compliment of EA Sports games.)

I have faith.  Xbox has served me well.

[Schrankwand]

Watched the Xbox reveal twice and all they did was blab on about TV and CoD.

Looked through the MS twitter accounts, but I can't seem to find anything, for example, that backs up "You can't sell the games anymore. Or lend them to a buddy. Because he cant play if the serial isn't bound to his account." Maybe a direct link would help?

http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825

This one sums it up well, includes officials and James.

Nice, thanks.

So it's sort of the same thing that Steam/Valve has done for years. At first thought, it's kind of BS that they'd make you jump through these sort of hoops to play games with other people...but it may not be so bad so long as they keep with the Valve model (price cuts / fire-sales where games are $5-10 after a few months).

It just really sucks that I'd have to "pay a fee" (i.e. "buy the game") if I want to borrow a game from my friend. That's not something I agree with.

If you have followed Microsoft's XBOX policy with prices, i have this problem: A good amount of money will be asked for. And prices won't change. Most of the prices on XBOX live when downloading full games are either 49,99 or 29,99 in Euros. You see firesales only in a smaller fashion, with addons, arcade games and so on. Very rarely prices for full games are reduced in fire sales. Games going down to the typical STEAM style "LETS JUST RAMP IT UP, TAKE THE BLOCKBUSTER for $4.99 before I get fired because the CEO sees this" has never happened before.

I am similarly annoyed by STEAM, but its prices are so alluring I often find myself clicking "Buy" before I stopped thinking.

[syn999]

PC rule!

[fwho]

This.

Im actually not much of a PC gamer, unless you count Minecraft. I was however a pretty big Xbox fanboy. I just could not find anything significant during the premier. Yay, more CoD and n-th sports games. Oh a "premium" Halo tv series... The switching thing is nice, but seems more like a parlor trick than something worthy of a console. Unless they have something else pretty big up their sleeve for E3, I think they just made the Wii-U a lot cooler.

This is what I don't get.  An Xbox fanboy but suddenly you're doubting the next Xbox?

8 years of solid service, great games and great Xbox Live and now no confidence?

I see it this way: MS had an awful lot to cover in a relatively short period of time.  They wanted to cover all the bases and they did.  The biggest games show on earth starts in 17 days' time.  Why would they go OTT revealing all their biggest games now?  (They still managed to show an original IP, a new Forza and a full compliment of EA Sports games.)

I have faith.  Xbox has served me well.

Even though Xbox has been my preferred gaming system, I am no where near a hardcore gamer. I dont have the time to be. But my confidence is gone BECAUSE they are trying to cover all of the bases. Typically when something tries to be everything, it becomes nothing. I dont need an Xbox TV guide or auto switching. Sure its a nice trick, but something I have, and can continue to live without. Sure its nice to watch Netflix and Hulu on my Xbox, which I do. But there are also plenty of WiFi TVs that offer the same as well. Oh they have NFL though! Except I dont watch sports or play sports games... And the auto updating fantasy stats seem like yet another kinda cool, yet nearly pointless trick. Like when Zune enabled device to device sharing. I think I used that once to pass a nude pic around to like the whole two people that had a Zune. As for the games, I am generally unimpressed by what they did announce, but I do also realize E3 is right around the corner. I am not impressed at all with the hardware that runs the games.

If they do pick up a Steam style game platform and sell lots of games at really cheap prices AND drop the LIVE membership, Ill consider buying one. Other than that, I see no reason to waste money on more hardware that does exactly what my current hardware already does, even if it is a little snappier (providing that works as well as they claim).