The Holy Grail! I wish I could kiss the author of Bitmessage on his face.

[justusranvier]

Now another question. Is it possible to use OT server as a core server (through API?) with mtGox like interface for customers, until moneychanger is realeased or just for those customers who don't want to download it?

You'd have to write all that code yourself, AFAIK.

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[bitdig]

Of course, just need to know that this possible...

Now another question. Is it possible to use OT server as a core server (through API?) with mtGox like interface for customers, until moneychanger is realeased or just for those customers who don't want to download it?

You'd have to write all that code yourself, AFAIK.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Of course, just need to know that this possible...

Now another question. Is it possible to use OT server as a core server (through API?) with mtGox like interface for customers, until moneychanger is realeased or just for those customers who don't want to download it?

You'd have to write all that code yourself, AFAIK.

There are also some example simple web client wallet projects ... but nothing fully polished yet.

e.g.
https://github.com/stretch/otweb

[buzybit]

well done fellow traveler!
i am amazed by your work!
this is the future!!!

[Tirapon]

Wow, how did I miss this?!

Still trying to understand properly it but I think I get the gist. Exciting stuff.

[bitdig]

Is there an estimate when moneychanger will be released to the masses?

Of course, just need to know that this possible...

Now another question. Is it possible to use OT server as a core server (through API?) with mtGox like interface for customers, until moneychanger is realeased or just for those customers who don't want to download it?

You'd have to write all that code yourself, AFAIK.

There are also some example simple web client wallet projects ... but nothing fully polished yet.

e.g.
https://github.com/stretch/otweb

[marcus_of_augustus]

Is there an estimate when moneychanger will be released to the masses?

Of course, just need to know that this possible...

Now another question. Is it possible to use OT server as a core server (through API?) with mtGox like interface for customers, until moneychanger is realeased or just for those customers who don't want to download it?

You'd have to write all that code yourself, AFAIK.

There are also some example simple web client wallet projects ... but nothing fully polished yet.

e.g.
https://github.com/stretch/otweb

Not really, it is dependent upon volunteers and bounty donations ... and to be honest help is pretty thin on the ground with so much money hovering up talent in the crypto space, there are not that many free agents left out there ... for coding, building, packaging, testing ....

[bitdig]

that means that there should be something allowing to commercialize the product, in certain way... so it can be pushed... What about having a small commission in moneychanger? For example, if commission can be set in moneychanger to work on certain (commercial) OT server, than those who would like to run this commercial OT server might be interested to invest into faster development? Am I missing something?

Is there an estimate when moneychanger will be released to the masses?

Of course, just need to know that this possible...

Now another question. Is it possible to use OT server as a core server (through API?) with mtGox like interface for customers, until moneychanger is realeased or just for those customers who don't want to download it?

You'd have to write all that code yourself, AFAIK.

There are also some example simple web client wallet projects ... but nothing fully polished yet.

e.g.
https://github.com/stretch/otweb

Not really, it is dependent upon volunteers and bounty donations ... and to be honest help is pretty thin on the ground with so much money hovering up talent in the crypto space, there are not that many free agents left out there ... for coding, building, packaging, testing ....

[bitrider]

Good point...

[gortonc]

Am I correct in understanding that MC is dependent on OT? If so is OT ready for prime time, can anyone set up an OT server?  Where would one start if they wanted to try? What sort of hardware would be required?

Newbie questions, I know, but I need to start somewhere.    How does a newbie like myself make a positive contribution, or do I just sit and wait.

BTW, I'm nobody's Grandmother, but I am a Grandfather. I would be more than happy to be a usability guinea pig, should someone need one. 

[fellowtraveler]

Am I correct in understanding that MC is dependent on OT? If so is OT ready for prime time, can anyone set up an OT server?  Where would one start if they wanted to try? What sort of hardware would be required?

Newbie questions, I know, but I need to start somewhere.    How does a newbie like myself make a positive contribution, or do I just sit and wait.

BTW, I'm nobody's Grandmother, but I am a Grandfather. I would be more than happy to be a usability guinea pig, should someone need one.  

I will probably never say that OT is "ready for prime time" since, working in crypto-systems, I am extremely conservative and paranoid.

We've done a lot of testing over the past four years, but I want to do more. We've done some static/dynamic analysis, but I want to do more. We've had the code open-source for years, but I still want to pay experts to audit the code. Monetas is starting on some QA but that will be an ongoing process.

We are just now getting to the point where the Desktop app is usable, and even then we need install programs before normal users can access it. (I've been testing an install of the Mac version, but don't have an install ready yet for Windows/Linux.)

If you want to start playing with it, there's a bit of a learning curve on the server side. The first thing I would do is get a Mac or Linux system and then build OT on it:
http://github.com/Open-Transactions/Open-Transactions

Once you have it built, I would copy the sample data over:

mkdir ~/.ot
cp -R Open-Transactions/sample-data/ot-sample-data/* ~/.ot

Then you can start the server: otserver

Then you can use the command-line client. You can also use the desktop client if you want to build it:
http://github.com/Open-Transactions/Moneychanger

I have a Mac install of that desktop client, and some testers have access to it, though we will make it more accessible to others soon. We still need to make install programs for Windows/Linux but it shouldn't be too hard.

Once you are comfortable using OT with the sample data, the next step would be to create your own server contract. To get started doing that, just erase the sample data and run otserver with no data. It should walk you through the process of setting up your own server (it's no picnic.)

[stelam]

Here is Chris Odom aka Fellow Traveler, speaking at Miami Bitcoin conference, some people may find it useful. Enjoy!

Thanks to "Let's Talk Bitcoin!" for great audio.
 
https://soundcloud.com/mindtomatter/miami-2014-chris-odom-on-1?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheDailyBitcoinShow+%28Let%27s+Talk+Bitcoin%21%29

[befuddled]

Thanks. Are the slides he was using available anywhere?

[CIYAM]

http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20130606055250338000&ident=M100V137&chksum=a2a9d6d5

It appears that all the funds have been removed and *nothing has happened with this project for months*.

So unless I am led to believe otherwise then I will be closing it off at the end of this week.

[fellowtraveler]

http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20130606055250338000&ident=M100V137&chksum=a2a9d6d5

It appears that all the funds have been removed and *nothing has happened with this project for months*.

So unless I am led to believe otherwise then I will be closing it off at the end of this week.

Actually this project has been worked on continually, even up until today, as you can see in the commit history:

https://github.com/Open-Transactions/Moneychanger/commits/develop

We have a lot of new features added, and an announcement is overdue. For example, Namecoin and Bitmessage have been integrated. I've been in the middle of a move to Switzerland, and busy with the Bitmessage integration, so I want to get that tested up and make a new video before I post a big update here to this thread.

As for the funds, they are still all there, I just moved them to a separate address out of concern for security. The amount was sitting on my desktop and was making me nervous, so I moved it to a paper wallet.

Pls just leave the project on CIYAM for now, and soon I will get in there and update the CIYAM page. Lots of the sub-bounties can be closed and paid out, and I will slip in new addresses for the bounties that remain, so the funds can be visible again. Lots of progress going on lately!

[CIYAM]

Pls just leave the project on CIYAM for now, and soon I will get in there and update the CIYAM page. Lots of the sub-bounties can be closed and paid out, and I will slip in new addresses for the bounties that remain, so the funds can be visible again. Lots of progress going on lately!

Okay - glad to know things are still progressing fine (just a pity we haven't been able to follow the progress through CIYAM Open).

I will keep the project active.

[juju]

Pls just leave the project on CIYAM for now, and soon I will get in there and update the CIYAM page. Lots of the sub-bounties can be closed and paid out, and I will slip in new addresses for the bounties that remain, so the funds can be visible again. Lots of progress going on lately!

Okay - glad to know things are still progressing fine (just a pity we haven't been able to follow the progress through CIYAM Open).

I will keep the project active.

I am following the project on Github, Fellowtraveler and several others are active. I see multiple submissions every single day or at-least a week to the OT Project. Best way I know you can follow the developments of this project.

[illymoka]

BitMessage is anonymous but NOT secure. Add a layer of crypto to your messages and you may have a chance.

[ljudotina]

BitMessage is anonymous but NOT secure. Add a layer of crypto to your messages and you may have a chance.

It's just starting level of tech that can be improved upon by others. If i understand it correctly, it's wonderful thing that can go really long way in the future and opens up bunch of possibilities.

[Bitcoin Magazine]

BitMessage is anonymous but NOT secure. Add a layer of crypto to your messages and you may have a chance.

It's just starting level of tech that can be improved upon by others. If i understand it correctly, it's wonderful thing that can go really long way in the future and opens up bunch of possibilities.

if you crypto all your messages it defeats the whole concept of immortality.  see.  if you encrypt the word of G-d.  things get funny.  like people going to jails for weed..