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August 27, 2017, 09:22:13 AM
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So today stromfront got taken down in a copycat attack, the same way that daily stormer was taken down several weeks ago:   SocJus went crying to the registrars.   This method would have been obvious to anyone with half a brain, but it took them 10 years to figure it out, which shows you how stupid the attackers are.

I don't agree with half of what these sites say, but I will defend to the death their right to say it.

Tor hidden services are not an ideal solution, because tor is very slow and has domain names that are impossible to remember.    Tor does a lot of extra onion routing to anonymize the clients, which is not at all necessary for this use case and slows everything way down.   How about a much lighter weight system that does less onion routing?

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5. more robust against ddos than tor.  Use storage space on every node as cache so static content will be impossible to ddos.

What projects currently exist that are doing anything like this?
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August 27, 2017, 09:46:16 AM
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You have freedom of speech, that doesn't mean that these companies have to give you a platform to do it. DailyStormer disgusted enough people with their actions, that the companies that they rent services from decided that public pressure could affect their future profits by association. There was most likely a clause in the contract that allowed them to close accounts for any reason at all and DailyStormer agree to that. If most of your opinions are hateful, I have little sympathy if people stop working with you - that's their choice.

As for your idea for new tech, you're essentially asking for someone to come up with a better version of the internet so.. good luck with that

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August 27, 2017, 10:13:02 AM
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There ought to be a meta-boycott to boycott any company that gives in to boycotts.  Make it more painful for them to censor things than to not censor things.
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August 27, 2017, 02:29:13 PM
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What projects currently exist that are doing anything like this?
Russia

I wonder how things work in countries in South America like Argentina? They took in Nazis after WW2. Couldn't they host DailyStormer?
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December 14, 2017, 02:06:02 PM
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In the end only the politically correct site will have freedom of expression - which in itself is a quite nazi attitude.

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December 14, 2017, 02:56:19 PM
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In the end only the politically correct site will have freedom of expression - which in itself is a quite nazi attitude.
Completely agree, if you want to talk about freedom by using censorship, there's something rotten at the base.

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December 14, 2017, 03:12:05 PM
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Use DDOS protection with something like CloudFlare?
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December 14, 2017, 03:55:28 PM
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You have freedom of speech, that doesn't mean that these companies have to give you a platform to do it. DailyStormer disgusted enough people with their actions, that the companies that they rent services from decided that public pressure could affect their future profits by association. There was most likely a clause in the contract that allowed them to close accounts for any reason at all and DailyStormer agree to that. If most of your opinions are hateful, I have little sympathy if people stop working with you - that's their choice.

As for your idea for new tech, you're essentially asking for someone to come up with a better version of the internet so.. good luck with that

And yet, as disgusting as they be, Freedom of Speech, is foundational to a free society.

I'm typing this on an ASUS. If ASUS disagrees with what I say should the censor me? Should there be keylogging on each computer and have everything you write be reviewed to see that it is approved by the powers that be?

If ASUS shouldn't then why should any ISP?
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