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August 28, 2017, 09:51:25 PM |
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Hi The Bitcoin Debit Card issued over MY Choice Corporate (WaveCrest Holdings) will stop international use at 15/October/2017 and will use in European Territory only https://mychoicecorporate.com/visa-card-issuance-list/any one know other Debit card provider
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August 29, 2017, 12:14:51 AM |
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Almost every Bitcoin loaded debit card is provided by WaveCrest. AFAIK, the only one that is provided by a different company and won't face this limitations is the Golden Card from WageCan[1]. [1] https://wagecan.com/Pricing
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August 29, 2017, 09:03:04 AM |
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Almost every Bitcoin loaded debit card is provided by WaveCrest. AFAIK, the only one that is provided by a different company and won't face this limitations is the Golden Card from WageCan[1]. [1] https://wagecan.com/PricingYes, they are the only one providing cards not issued by Mychoice as of now, but 160$ for this card is just an outrageous price. Consider the cards can be in USD only, people have to pay the foreign currency fees. Between this fee and other fees, it takes about 5% to load the card (not considering then ATM fees, BTC rate) And another thing, you need a passport for the verification, something that not everyone has
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warningsigns
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August 29, 2017, 09:30:29 AM |
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Almost every Bitcoin loaded debit card is provided by WaveCrest. AFAIK, the only one that is provided by a different company and won't face this limitations is the Golden Card from WageCan[1]. [1] https://wagecan.com/PricingYes, they are the only one providing cards not issued by Mychoice as of now, but 160$ for this card is just an outrageous price. Consider the cards can be in USD only, people have to pay the foreign currency fees. Between this fee and other fees, it takes about 5% to load the card (not considering then ATM fees, BTC rate) And another thing, you need a passport for the verification, something that not everyone has I just ordered mine and the fees may be somewhat high but it's the peace-of-mind factor that I value here. I was using my MyChoice card the other day and I was worried while withdrawing, thinking the card could be frozen or blocked anytime. One should never be made to worry. It's unhealthy. A bank that makes one feel unsettled when transacting or embarrassed by a declined transaction is a bank to avoid. Submitted my passport copy and a selfie holding the passport plus proof of residential address. I hope I get the card before my trip to Dubai next week. Shopping and dining in Dubai with a bitcoin card... that would be nice.
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August 29, 2017, 09:38:15 AM |
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I just ordered mine and the fees may be somewhat high but it's the peace-of-mind factor that I value here.
IMO it mainly depends on how high the fees are relative to just spending BTC directly. If you live in the US, you can buy most goods from actual BTC merchants or from Purse (excluding perhaps the most basic things like food, but personally I hold some fiat as well as BTC). The fees would only be worth it if either you don't live in the US or Europe (a country with less BTC acceptance from merchants), or if you hold most of your savings in BTC and would use it a hell of a lot to make up for the crazy ordering fees. Personally I live in Europe so I can just keep using my Xapo card.
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warningsigns
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August 29, 2017, 10:28:17 AM |
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Yes, it's official. Just got this email:
Dear xxx,
Due to the licence restriction of our card issuer, the xxx card program (Prepaid and Real-time Conversion card types) will no longer be supported for all cardholders after October 15, 2017.
How will this impact me?
Your xxx card will remain open for use until 15 October, 2017 11:59 PM GMT. After that, your card will be closed and you will no longer be able to use it.
What steps should I take next?
You should, therefore, use up or withdraw any balance on your card before 15 October 2017.Withdrawal can be made from any visa-supported ATM machine. We also recommend that you stop loading further funds onto your card effective immediately to avoid any balance remaining on your card. Although this situation is out of our control, we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused to our cardholders. We want to assure you that we are actively looking for suitable products to bring convenience to our customers. Details will be announced in due course, so stay tuned.
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August 29, 2017, 12:08:43 PM |
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I ordered a WageCan Card.. 129USD Golden
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September 01, 2017, 05:43:18 AM |
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Hi gaato77, Weiting from WageCan here. Thanks for supporting us. Just as a reminder, you could totally apply for a refund anytime before your card is shipped by emailing our customer service, with no question asked I ordered a WageCan Card.. 129USD Golden
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September 01, 2017, 08:08:57 PM |
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Just when bitcoin started to become more popular our card issuers from MY Choice Corporate decide to call it a day thought this meant more business for them?
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warningsigns
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September 01, 2017, 09:49:48 PM |
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Just when bitcoin started to become more popular our card issuers from MY Choice Corporate decide to call it a day thought this meant more business for them?
It's not like they had a choice. They were acquired by Visa International and must take orders from their new bosses. I wonder why EU residents are allowed to keep and use their cards while the rest of the world is excluded. What is the rationale behind this? Are we non-EU card holders all money launderers and criminals in the eyes of Visa? Or is it a move to maintain and sustain a competitive edge in the payment industry? Baffles me how choking the geographic majority and favoring a minority can lead to better revenue figures. But it's Visa. They have been around before I was even born. So I guess they know what they're doing.
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October 05, 2017, 09:23:04 PM |
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Cryptopay was using Wavecrest for its Visa debit cards and was caught in the shutdown along with all the others. To its credit, it quickly came up with a Plan B Mastercard offering, but it has just announced that it too must close. It might still be OK in Europe only. Specifically, you can still spend anything you have previously loaded on your Cryptopay Mastercard (virtual or plastic) but you can't load the cards any more. Cryptopay is apparently working to find a Plan C. I hope they succeed - they have been good to deal with. The end result is very odd, with Visa apparently having destroyed BTC debit cards for most of the world outside the EU, and now a Mastercard provider having a similar effect. Some argue that these cards just prolong fiat's dominance and that we should all be buying goods and services in crypto alone rather than fiat. I get it, but the crypto debit cards sure are were handy in the meantime. I hope the industry bounces back quickly.
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October 06, 2017, 05:16:35 AM |
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I think cryptopay's plan C is to have ICO and than collect enough fund like monaco and tenxpay to build their own credit card platform. Don't know which cards they will start issuing if both VISA and MASTERCARD will go against the use of bitcoin debit cards.
Bitcoin ATM might be installed in majority of the country in next few years which will completely replace the use of VISA or MASTERCARD to spend your bitcoin.
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October 06, 2017, 09:01:41 AM |
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Well, they returned the card fee (and DHL fees) for both my USD and EUR cards so this is a solid indication that they intend to discontinue the contactless cards. I hope they will find a replacement card system quickly. And hopefully it will be a lasting and stable one.
These are sad developments. I still have full faith in Cryptopay. Their cards (and that iOS app!) never failed me. Wave Crest's cards were really good and solid. Sad to see Visa restricting the rest of the world. Visa, being a US company... there might be a connection there. Just healthy speculation on my part but the government might be playing a hand in all these deals in an effort to tighten its grip on the bitcoin community.
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October 06, 2017, 09:36:28 AM |
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Right now basically every single bitcoin debit card is backed by Wavecrest.
I know for sure that Wirex is going to switch over to a new provider. You can get their card at a fee or for free if you hold a balance with them right now(there may be specific limits, i'm not sure personally). Though there will be no new VCC.
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October 06, 2017, 06:19:14 PM |
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Right now basically every single bitcoin debit card is backed by Wavecrest.
I know for sure that Wirex is going to switch over to a new provider. You can get their card at a fee or for free if you hold a balance with them right now(there may be specific limits, i'm not sure personally). Though there will be no new VCC.
Another card provider which is also sending replacement card is cryptopay, although now they will ask for complete verification before sending you bitcoin debit card. Will check wirex too. Recently found about okpay.com debit card which actually supports bitcoin deposit. I will order that one too..
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October 07, 2017, 12:59:54 AM |
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I'm quite sure that WageCan's card is not issued by WaveCrest, I know because I work at there ha. If you all need a new card to replace the current one, you could PM me to get a coupon code for 20% off for all our cards. Right now basically every single bitcoin debit card is backed by Wavecrest.
I know for sure that Wirex is going to switch over to a new provider. You can get their card at a fee or for free if you hold a balance with them right now(there may be specific limits, i'm not sure personally). Though there will be no new VCC.
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October 07, 2017, 06:37:31 AM |
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I recommend using the WageCan golden card. I have it and it works flawlessly. The card is not issued by Wave Crest. WageCan operates in a stable jurisdiction with a sound and solid economy.
There is a KYC process which is easy and not complicated.
The best thing about this card is that there are no geographic restrictions. And the cards work worldwide.
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October 07, 2017, 07:40:08 AM |
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Hello all, Need a list of relieble services with non MyChoice/Wavecrest card issueing.
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warningsigns
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October 07, 2017, 10:53:46 AM |
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Hello all, Need a list of relieble services with non MyChoice/Wavecrest card issueing.
WageCan is a reliable bitcoin debit card. I also have a Mistertango card. Both cards work flawlessly. Both cards are not issued by Wave Crest. I’m not aware of other card services, apart from the two companies I mentioned above. Both are life savers. I used to load all my bitcoins on my Cryptopay card but they are temporarily not offering any cards.
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