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August 31, 2017, 09:26:18 PM
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i use your bitdoubler with shapeshift btc to monero

send first transaction, now shapeshift have check mark for Waiting on Confirmations, now I do second tranaction for double spend and I get free monero?
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September 01, 2017, 03:13:39 AM
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rollorspin,

I don't use Shapeshift so I am not sure at what stage in the process you would want to initiate the second transaction. I think ShapeShift would be tough to fool, though, because they got hit by a double spend attack 2 years ago and are probably much smarter about protecting themselves now.

https://blog.blockcypher.com/yes-someone-double-spent-bitcoin-no-zero-confirmation-payments-are-not-dead-944d021b865e?gi=86c0d40f09ec
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September 01, 2017, 06:05:24 PM
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I tried your "web tool" since that's what you call it. It may have done a double spend but i fail to see how i now have 'double" the bitcoins. What I did...

1. Sent 0.001 BTC to duckdice (since it's on your FAQ).
2. It let me bet my 0.001 before confirmation (hopes are high at this point)
3. Bet lost (big surprise...who heard of that casino...might be a scam casino)
4. Sent second transaction back to me; it confirmed in 10 mins

So now I have doubled my money? No, I have the same bitcoins I began with, minus 0.0001 BTC that your "tool" charges, and minus my transaction fee too.

Hardly feel rich now.
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September 02, 2017, 07:10:08 AM
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Can I double my bitcoins? Please suggest how to do this.

No, this site doesn't create to double your bitcoin instantly, you have to make it by yourself and what he has to offer?
Double spending bitcoins is fun and might even fool some person or web site into giving you something for free.

To deceive, scam People or sites in order to get free bitcoin or goods, but I won't recommend anyone to deal with this site as you will turn as scammers, criminal and being hunted by central authorities or some people who want your head on the table.

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September 02, 2017, 11:06:50 PM
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throwawaytest8721, the point is that if you bet, lose, and then double-spend your coins back to yourself then you have made a "free bet" and have the opportunity to bet again later, and maybe win next time.
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September 03, 2017, 03:09:22 PM
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I tried your "web tool" since that's what you call it. It may have done a double spend but i fail to see how i now have 'double" the bitcoins. What I did...

1. Sent 0.001 BTC to duckdice (since it's on your FAQ).
2. It let me bet my 0.001 before confirmation (hopes are high at this point)
3. Bet lost (big surprise...who heard of that casino...might be a scam casino)
4. Sent second transaction back to me; it confirmed in 10 mins

So now I have doubled my money? No, I have the same bitcoins I began with, minus 0.0001 BTC that your "tool" charges, and minus my transaction fee too.

Hardly feel rich now.

For you to even patronise the service means that you must have believed that there is a way to double your coins but in the real sense, there is nothing like that but just a way to rob people. The only means of doubling your money is either to work harder, or take more risks or even buy more. Other than that, there is no other means of doubling your investments that does not point to scams.

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September 05, 2017, 12:44:43 AM
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I wasn't trying to rob anyone, just to test a new service to see if it worked. I did it on the lowest amount (0.001 BTC) so the casino is not  going to be hurt by that loss.
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September 05, 2017, 05:47:58 PM
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Quontoloue,

Our web site is not the same domain. Our domain is https://www.bitdoubler.io/ (notice the r on the end).

So, you agree that yours is a phishing site then. Shouldn't that bother us? I think it should. Why pick a dormain name almost like another popular site if it isnt for a sinister engagement? Perhaps that is to hoodwink and ensnare unsuspecting public to your nest, right? Wake up dude, people are not that daft anymore.

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September 05, 2017, 06:21:34 PM
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Quontoloue,

Our web site is not the same domain. Our domain is https://www.bitdoubler.io/ (notice the r on the end).

So, you agree that yours is a phishing site then. Shouldn't that bother us? I think it should. Why pick a dormain name almost like another popular site if it isnt for a sinister engagement? Perhaps that is to hoodwink and ensnare unsuspecting public to your nest, right? Wake up dude, people are not that daft anymore.

These kind of shitty scam attempts and site should be banned by everyone. These kind of the services will show the bad impression to the people who wish to get inside the bitcoin. Kindly ignore this thread until the moderator delete this thread. Bad to see in this section.

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September 08, 2017, 03:13:42 PM
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Mpamaegbu,

My understanding is that a phishing site attempts to fool users into thinking they are on a different site, while in fact they are on an illegitimate copy of that site. If you go to our site https://www.bitdoubler.io/ and then go to the other site https://bitdouble.io/ you will see the two sites have nothing to do with each other. https://bitdouble.io/ advertises itself as a "Social Gambling Game" while our site advertises itself as a tool for allowing users to execute bitcoin double spends.
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September 08, 2017, 04:35:43 PM
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A dice betting web site X by my testing was vulnerable to double spends (under 0.01 BTC)..I am white hat; I returned the funds and notified X of their vulnerability
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September 13, 2017, 04:16:01 PM
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throwawaytest8721,

Yesterday, a certain btc casino changed its instant deposit policies. Could this be because of your report? If you don't want to post the name of the casino in this thread could you send it to me privately?
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September 16, 2017, 05:40:42 PM
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I tried your "web tool" since that's what you call it. It may have done a double spend but i fail to see how i now have 'double" the bitcoins. What I did...

1. Sent 0.001 BTC to duckdice (since it's on your FAQ).
2. It let me bet my 0.001 before confirmation (hopes are high at this point)
3. Bet lost (big surprise...who heard of that casino...might be a scam casino)
4. Sent second transaction back to me; it confirmed in 10 mins

So now I have doubled my money? No, I have the same bitcoins I began with, minus 0.0001 BTC that your "tool" charges, and minus my transaction fee too.

Hardly feel rich now.

And what do you exped it's a fucking double tip url I have used it and it's works great you can beat 0.001 in some casinos for 0.0001 go to google and search double expend beacuse it whats this site does
and whereas glashunt cost 10% of 0.015 minimun which is 0.0015 this is 0.0001
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September 18, 2017, 07:08:11 PM
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Edymola,

Thanks for your feedback. I'm glad to hear you had some success using our site!
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September 18, 2017, 08:00:52 PM
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You know you guys are directly aiding people to scam other people and services, right?
These kinds of services aren't really helping anyone. What's the point of double spending a transaction anyway?
For sure you guys have something like "this is for educational purposes only", which actually translate to,
"this is a scam tool and highly illegal" like most hacks, cheats, and scams posted on the internet.

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September 18, 2017, 09:11:24 PM
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I have heard a lot about bitcoin doubling sites that they are all scams. Anyways I will try your site and see. So to try your site should I need to register in any gamblinhg site? If so can you pm me the url of the casino site where your tool works properly or I can choose any gambling site? After trying your site, I will write a detail review about your site here.

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September 19, 2017, 08:19:38 PM
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Luan,

We don't have any kind of disclaimer like "this is for educational purposes only". We plainly state that our site is a tool for creating double spends and give suggestions regarding how double spends might be used to one's advantage. Apparently you did not look at our site very closely before giving your opinion.

Fire Rabbit,

When you say "I have heard a lot about bitcoin doubling sites that they are all scams" you might be thinking of "investment" sites that promise to double your money after a certain amount of time if you deposit it into the site's wallet. Our site is not a phony "investment" site, but rather a site that allows users to create double spends. It is up to the users themselves to find a way to benefit from double spends.

We can't guarantee double spends will work against any given casino. Edymola, who posted earlier, seems to have found a casino that is vulnerable. But he/she didn't specify which one. Another user posted earlier in this thread about notifying a certain casino of its vulnerability to double spends, and that casino has likely tightened up its policies on unconfirmed deposits.

If you want to test the functionality of the site you can always create a double spend where both transactions pay to different addresses in your own wallet. As far as finding a way to profit from double spends we offer some suggestions on our site, but can't offer guarantees of success against any particular site.

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September 19, 2017, 08:46:41 PM
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This is bad  idea to help other people to learn how to double spend and scam someone that actually not a good habit..
It can be bad result for bitcoin users if you are let other people to use this just to scam someone..
The purposes of this are same getting the benefits of the fee and help to scam others But honestly still none trying to test this service and see if this is real or not.
Since its only 10k sat fee i think there are someone will try it and prove this site are useless and scam..
For now we will wait for  other can sacrifice some their bitcoin just to prove but i hope they don't transact a big amount. .

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September 20, 2017, 01:16:56 AM
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This is bad  idea to help other people to learn how to double spend and scam someone that actually not a good habit..
It can be bad result for bitcoin users if you are let other people to use this just to scam someone..
The purposes of this are same getting the benefits of the fee and help to scam others But honestly still none trying to test this service and see if this is real or not.
Since its only 10k sat fee i think there are someone will try it and prove this site are useless and scam..
For now we will wait for  other can sacrifice some their bitcoin just to prove but i hope they don't transact a big amount. .

The problem is that this service (unfortunately) is not a scam site. As long it conserns the service that they claim that they provide.
About the ethics/morality of it imo it's a disgrace for our community.
We came here for the better and not for the worse,these kind of "services" have no intension to promote and lift up BTC/crypto to people.
I know that a negative from me don't make something but i will do it. Afterall as Op said,it's up to us to judge if we want to fool others or to like something.
Well,i don't like this! Crystal clear!

Now this is what we need on Bitcointalk, to fool other Bitcoin users!

Indeed... Cry

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September 20, 2017, 06:33:29 AM
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AdolfinWolf, thanks for your feedback. In response to your post:

1. We created the https://www.bitdoubler.io site to allow people an easy and cheap way to create double spends. We weren't happy with the existing double spend sites out there, such as the most popular one: https://www.glasshunt.co/exploits/bitcoin-double-spend, for a number of reasons. The Glass Hunt site charges a high fee (10% of your double spend amount) and has a high minimum (0.015 btc) amount to send. So we created a cheaper, open-source version that only charges a flat fee of 0.0001 btc and has a low 0.001 btc minimum.

2. We understand what you're saying about the immorality of double spending. Some may consider this site immoral because it can be used to fool people. We will leave it up to each individual person to decide if he or she wants to participate in double spending.

3. Not sure what you mean by "i could send transactions to myself on your site for some reason? is this a bug?." If you mean that you can put the same bitcoin address for both the first transaction and second transaction then you are correct. This is not a bug, but rather an option. If you were to send both the first and second transactions of a double spend to the same address then it would appear that the destination address would be receiving double the amount of bitcoins. This is an option we make available to users.

4. You are correct that most casinos have added double spend protections to their web sites recently. As explained in the FAQ, profiting through double spending would probably only work against new gambling sites that have not anticipated or prepared for double spend situations.
WTH is this? Are you really advocating and advertising and announcing DOUBLE SPENDING !?. Here in this Forum? Really!?
The Hell man, if you are part of the bitcoin community who supports bitcoin, you will do this, this is really stupid. I just hope there will be no member of this forum and also a bitcoin enthusiast please do not support this kind of activity.
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