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August 28, 2017, 10:01:17 PM
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We are announcing BitDoubler: https://www.bitdoubler.io/

BitDoubler is an open source web site for double spending bitcoins. There are a bunch of similar sites out there already. But ours is different in that, first of all, it's open source, and second we charge a fee of only 0.0002 btc (about 80 cents) per double spend. Some of the other sites charge as much as 10% of your total transaction amount!

Lots of information is on the web site FAQ, so we won't unnecessarily repeat it here.

Please let us know if you have any feedback.
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August 29, 2017, 06:10:40 PM
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We are announcing BitDoubler: https://www.bitdoubler.io/

BitDoubler is an open source web site for double spending bitcoins. There are a bunch of similar sites out there already. But ours is different in that, first of all, it's open source, and second we charge a fee of only 0.0001 btc (about 40 cents) per double spend. Some of the other sites charge as much as 10% of your total transaction amount!

Lots of information is on the web site FAQ, so we won't unnecessarily repeat it here.

Please let us know if you have any feedback.

Why did you make such a site? The only real usecase is to scam other cryptocurrency users, thinking you are paying them while you really aren't. This kind of stuff is what destroys bitcoin, and cryptocurrency.

I don't want to sit on some moral high-grounds, but this will only hurt new people in the bitcoin community.

Also, i could send transactions to myself on your site for some reason? is this a bug?..



It seems your ill-intentions have been confirmed. I'd be surprised if this works at most bitcoin casinos nowadays though.

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August 30, 2017, 01:07:03 AM
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Can I double my bitcoins? Please suggest how to do this.
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August 30, 2017, 04:02:15 AM
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We are announcing BitDoubler: https://www.bitdoubler.io/

BitDoubler is an open source web site for double spending bitcoins. There are a bunch of similar sites out there already. But ours is different in that, first of all, it's open source, and second we charge a fee of only 0.0001 btc (about 40 cents) per double spend. Some of the other sites charge as much as 10% of your total transaction amount!

Lots of information is on the web site FAQ, so we won't unnecessarily repeat it here.

Please let us know if you have any feedback.

First, just install a wordpress theme into your website, or as the ads are on youtube, you can use WIX.com .

Second, it is not ok to have a btcdoubler after segwit? Am  I right? As far as  I know at a moment they were fighting to combat the possibility of double spend. I don't if they succeed or not.

Anyways I hope you will have success with your html Smiley
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August 30, 2017, 07:55:39 AM
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Just another scam ...

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August 30, 2017, 08:31:18 AM
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Just another scam ...

They are definetely a scam. I just read all their info on their website, basically they are teaching users how to scam using double spend. People should report them and mark their account as scam I think
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August 30, 2017, 02:24:37 PM
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AdolfinWolf, thanks for your feedback. In response to your post:

1. We created the https://www.bitdoubler.io site to allow people an easy and cheap way to create double spends. We weren't happy with the existing double spend sites out there, such as the most popular one: https://www.glasshunt.co/exploits/bitcoin-double-spend, for a number of reasons. The Glass Hunt site charges a high fee (10% of your double spend amount) and has a high minimum (0.015 btc) amount to send. So we created a cheaper, open-source version that only charges a flat fee of 0.0002 btc and has a low 0.001 btc minimum.

2. We understand what you're saying about the immorality of double spending. Some may consider this site immoral because it can be used to fool people. We will leave it up to each individual person to decide if he or she wants to participate in double spending.

3. Not sure what you mean by "i could send transactions to myself on your site for some reason? is this a bug?." If you mean that you can put the same bitcoin address for both the first transaction and second transaction then you are correct. This is not a bug, but rather an option. If you were to send both the first and second transactions of a double spend to the same address then it would appear that the destination address would be receiving double the amount of bitcoins. This is an option we make available to users.

4. You are correct that most casinos have added double spend protections to their web sites recently. As explained in the FAQ, profiting through double spending would probably only work against new gambling sites that have not anticipated or prepared for double spend situations.
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August 30, 2017, 02:37:38 PM
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dumbtool45,

Thanks for your feedback. In response:

1. You said "First, just install a wordpress theme into your website, or as the ads are on youtube, you can use WIX.com". Why do you suggest adding a wordpress theme to the site? In order to improve its visual appeal?

2. You said "Second, it is not ok to have a btcdoubler after segwit? Am  I right? As far as  I know at a moment they were fighting to combat the possibility of double spend. I don't if they succeed or not." I'm not sure of the answer to that. Maybe someone else can answer that.

3. You said "They are definetely a scam. I just read all their info on their website, basically they are teaching users how to scam using double spend. People should report them and mark their account as scam I think" I would disagree that we are a scam. The web site is a tool that people might use to scam people, but the web site itself is not a scam. Meaning that the web site will work as advertised. If you create a double spend on the web site it will in fact execute the double spend (rather than just keeping your money, as a real scam web site would).
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August 30, 2017, 05:24:02 PM
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AdolfinWolf, thanks for your feedback. In response to your post:

1. We created the https://www.bitdoubler.io site to allow people an easy and cheap way to create double spends. We weren't happy with the existing double spend sites out there, such as the most popular one: https://www.glasshunt.co/exploits/bitcoin-double-spend, for a number of reasons. The Glass Hunt site charges a high fee (10% of your double spend amount) and has a high minimum (0.015 btc) amount to send. So we created a cheaper, open-source version that only charges a flat fee of 0.0001 btc and has a low 0.001 btc minimum.

2. We understand what you're saying about the immorality of double spending. Some may consider this site immoral because it can be used to fool people. We will leave it up to each individual person to decide if he or she wants to participate in double spending.

3. Not sure what you mean by "i could send transactions to myself on your site for some reason? is this a bug?." If you mean that you can put the same bitcoin address for both the first transaction and second transaction then you are correct. This is not a bug, but rather an option. If you were to send both the first and second transactions of a double spend to the same address then it would appear that the destination address would be receiving double the amount of bitcoins. This is an option we make available to users.

4. You are correct that most casinos have added double spend protections to their web sites recently. As explained in the FAQ, profiting through double spending would probably only work against new gambling sites that have not anticipated or prepared for double spend situations.

That #1 and #2 response is super fishy. #1 being the super low fee. There is no reason for you to create a site where people can double spend for so cheap. It seems as if you will take advantage of your members by asking them to put in their money for double spending and then taking it. No one will want to try it right off the bat.

Secondly, you state that it's up to the person for whether or not they want to double spend. It's my contention that there is no good reason for double spending. All of it has to do with scamming and I don't believe this website was a good creation.

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August 30, 2017, 05:40:44 PM
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player514,

You are wise to be cautious about sending your btc into any new web site. The owners of the site could very well keep the money and not provide you the service they promised.

The minimum transaction amount of bitdoubler.io is only 0.001 btc. Add in the 0.0002 btc bitdoubler fee and a transaction fee of around 0.0009 btc and you could risk as little as 0.002 btc (less than $10) to test the site.

In fact, if anyone wants a free 0.003 btc to test the site with, just let us know. You can use your own bitcoin wallet addresses as the two double spend addresses and keep the money you tested with.
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August 30, 2017, 05:55:23 PM
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player514,

You are wise to be cautious about sending your btc into any new web site. The owners of the site could very well keep the money and not provide you the service they promised.

The minimum transaction amount of bitdoubler.io is only 0.001 btc. Add in the 0.0001 btc bitdoubler fee and a transaction fee of around 0.0009 btc and you could risk as little as 0.002 btc (less than $10) to test the site.

In fact, if anyone wants a free 0.003 btc to test the site with, just let us know. You can use your own bitcoin wallet addresses as the two double spend addresses and keep the money you tested with.

Right, but my point is that you have the option of allowing smaller transactions at the beginning and when you start getting larger transactions for, let's say, 1 BTC, you have every opportunity to stop the script from continuing. You can simply take the money and run. You don't have much of a history here and there's no reason to trust you. After all, this product is promoting black hat means anyway...

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August 30, 2017, 07:37:09 PM
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player514,

You are correct. There are selective scams and exit scams. Sometimes a web site will work perfectly fine if you send it 0.01 btc. Then you might feel confident and send it 1 btc and it will keep your money. Or sometimes a web site will work perfectly for months or years and then suddenly close down and take everyone's bitcoins with it. Many bitcoin mixers, gambling sites, and darknet markets have pulled these scams. Always best to be cautious with your coins.
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August 30, 2017, 11:47:19 PM
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why youre use domain same with gambling site bitdouble.io
if only ponzi, youre wrong section if created thread in service announcement section
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August 31, 2017, 01:28:37 AM
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Quontoloue,

Our web site is not the same domain. Our domain is https://www.bitdoubler.io/ (notice the r on the end).
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August 31, 2017, 05:18:59 AM
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I have been reading and investigating on these bitcoin doublers since the first doubler came in market and every review is an advisory of safety toward scams.
You will see no one can suggest to invest in doublers as they are particularly came into existance to scam people.

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Double spending means including the same bitcoins as inputs in two or more transactions. Double spending bitcoins is fun and might even fool some person or web site into giving you something for free.

Now this is what we need on Bitcointalk, to fool other Bitcoin users!

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August 31, 2017, 09:30:31 AM
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We are announcing BitDoubler: https://www.bitdoubler.io/

BitDoubler is an open source web site for double spending bitcoins. There are a bunch of similar sites out there already. But ours is different in that, first of all, it's open source, and second we charge a fee of only 0.0001 btc (about 40 cents) per double spend. Some of the other sites charge as much as 10% of your total transaction amount!

Lots of information is on the web site FAQ, so we won't unnecessarily repeat it here.

Please let us know if you have any feedback.

The only feedback I have fortoh is that the site smells scam because there is nothing like bitcoin doubler the only one I know is when you engage in gambling activities and in that, you know what you are putting your money into even before you start. But this is not anywhere practicable and I wish those who wants to get double try it out and lose the little you have.

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August 31, 2017, 10:41:04 AM
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Double spending means including the same bitcoins as inputs in two or more transactions. Double spending bitcoins is fun and might even fool some person or web site into giving you something for free.

Now this is what we need on Bitcointalk, to fool other Bitcoin users!
This is bullsh*t thing seriously. What kind of project or site is this? Aiming for double spending? Fooling other people that you had paid and its not actually fun.I didn't think off that this thing is even possible.
I can consider it as a scam. I wont ever tried this thing even if its working.
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August 31, 2017, 10:46:05 AM
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I've give them negative trust.

Anyone who tries to scam other people (they clearly state it on their website), deserve to have a negative trust. This website deserves absolutely no traffic.

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August 31, 2017, 01:25:43 PM
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TheCoinFinder and olubams,

I think you are misunderstanding what the site is. It is not an investment / gambling site that promises to "double your money" after a certain time. It is a web site that allows you to create bitcoin double spends. You can read up on that here:

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4974/what-is-a-double-spend
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