Sportbetbet.io And Bitcasino are stealing balances and exit scamming

[game-protect]

There are many reasons in which KYC procedures are required in accordance with our gaming licence.

Can you show us your license?

The anonymous website curacao-egaming.com claiming that mBetSolutions N.V. operates under the 1668/JAZ license issued to the trade name Curacao eGaming by the Government of Curacao is not a valid license!

If you have no license, then your KYC procedure is illegal, right?

[adamistraybar]

its so they can sell you infromation and documents there a scam

[swissguy]

I dont know why peoples uses these types of newbie sportsbook when there is a lot trusted sportsbook available in the market. Whats the point of anonymous if we need to provide KYC to proper bitcoin sportsbook ?

[adamistraybar]

as i have said its so they can sell your info because there crimnal and because there a scam any way they can steal from you

[denny27]

Is that true? oh looks terrible, luckily i do not playing too often on that sites and just play occasionally without prolonged just try it out only and not to feel like i want to playing for long time on that sites.

[adamistraybar]

its true dont play there

there emptying balances

[piloder]

its true dont play there

there emptying balances

Either create proper scam accusations against them with enough proof or just show how you can prove that they are moving bitcoin from their hot/cold wallet to make an exit rather than just to process withdrawal requests made on site.

Sportsbet.io have strict and confusing KYC policy and it is known from long time ago so I personally don't prefer them too but this doesn't mean that I am calling them another scam.

[Patatas]

Either create proper scam accusations against them with enough proof or just show how you can prove that they are moving bitcoin from their hot/cold wallet to make an exit rather than just to process withdrawal requests made on site.

How much proof are we talking about here ? Doesn't their negative feedback on bitcointalk convince you ? It's not an obligation anyway,you can continue losing money to shit sites without having to promote it.

Sportsbet.io have strict and confusing KYC policy and it is known from long time ago so I personally don't prefer them too but this doesn't mean that I am calling them another scam.

KYC policiy should apply when deposits are made and not when winner requests his withdrawals.What surprises me is,there is absolutely no policy before a player makes an account and deposits the money,everything comes into picture once they make a huge profit and they aren't a shill account.Fuck outta here mate.

[kolesozw]

Either create proper scam accusations against them with enough proof or just show how you can prove that they are moving bitcoin from their hot/cold wallet to make an exit rather than just to process withdrawal requests made on site.

How much proof are we talking about here ? Doesn't their negative feedback on bitcointalk convince you ? It's not an obligation anyway,you can continue losing money to shit sites without having to promote it.

Sportsbet.io have strict and confusing KYC policy and it is known from long time ago so I personally don't prefer them too but this doesn't mean that I am calling them another scam.

KYC policiy should apply when deposits are made and not when winner requests his withdrawals.What surprises me is,there is absolutely no policy before a player makes an account and deposits the money,everything comes into picture once they make a huge profit and they aren't a shill account.Fuck outta here mate.

Now this is something I would agree with.

KYC should be done on deposits, not on withdraw. Because the casinos don't care about your age and money if you are going to deposit and lost. But if you deposit and win - they are hammering you with KYC.

[treather]

I am glad  bumped into this thread. I was a few minutes away from depositing with them but decided to google sprortsbet.io scam and I found this page.

[adamistraybar]

yes there a scammer

[xypos]

Honestly, you guys have no right to ask for KYC, whatsoever. As game-protect stated, you literally don't have a valid license or at least one that applies to every citizen in every country across the world. Who knows what you are going to do with our ID documents? You could use them on the dark web, for all we know.

You saying that you have no interests in doing this is just completely false. You obviously have a financial incentive to ask for KYC because you can delay people's withdrawals down or even not pay out at all.

People play on their site because you accept bitcoin, and they assume that you don't need IDto use your serice. You not asking for ID when people are depositing but asking for ID when people are withdrawing is just unacceptable.

[adamistraybar]

watch out i heard there steal more balances

[Granxis]

It will be clearer if you take a screenshot, now everything is mixed up, if you have a mistake in your account as you said, this is not something to fix.

[adamistraybar]

they have stolen balances on many peoples accounts

[Bitcasino.io Support]

Hi adamistraybar,

We can assure you we’re not closing up and we’re certainly not stealing balances, these are unfounded accusations that just aren’t welcomed.

Unfortunately, we see many fraudsters trying to abuse and take advantage of our near instant pay-out policy, so in-line with our license we implement KYC.

KYC means that we can offer a truly fun, fast and importantly a fair gaming experience, and we know it might be frustrating to comply with but it was implemented with the customer’s best interest.

3.10. We have the right to carry out “KYC” (Know Your Customer) verification procedures and access to your Member Account may be blocked or closed if we determine that you have supplied false or misleading information.

With regards to having a licence that applies to every citizen around the world – our T&C’s clearly state that manipulating your geographic location and playing outside the jurisdiction is a breach of T&C's.

3.4. When attempting to open an account or using the Website, it is the responsibility of the player to verify whether gambling is legal in that particular jurisdiction.
If you open or use the Website while residing in a Restricted Jurisdiction: your account may be closed by us immediately;
any winnings and bonuses will be confiscated and remaining balance returned (subject to reasonable charges), and any returns,
winnings or bonuses which you have gained or accrued will be forfeited by you and may be reclaimed by us; and you will return to us on demand any such funds which have been withdrawn.

If you have any comments, concerns or questions we’re always here to listen whether it be on the forums, live chat or email.

Regards,
Bitcasino.io

[game-protect]

3.10. We have the right to carry out “KYC” (Know Your Customer) verification procedures and access to your Member Account may be blocked or closed if we determine that you have supplied false or misleading information.

According to your logic and based on your own terms and conditions, players have the right to block or close your illegal and criminal operation, because you supply false and misleading information!  

3.4. When attempting to open an account or using the Website, it is the responsibility of the player to verify whether gambling is legal in that particular jurisdiction.

It is the responsibility of the casino operator to verify that minors and permanent self-excluded customers can not use your illegal and criminal service!

But as you have anonymous accounts, you logically can not fulfil your responsibility!

3.4. If you open or use the Website while residing in a Restricted Jurisdiction: your account may be closed by us immediately; any winnings and bonuses will be confiscated and remaining balance returned (subject to reasonable charges),

1) Game Protect has proof from players in restricted countries how they lost hundreds of BTC to your illegal and criminal operation without any problem!

2) If someone was able to play from a restricted country, because you have anonymous accounts and do not care about AML laws and regulations, then you confiscate only winnings and bonuses but do not give illegally taken losses back?

But if a player lost from a restricted country, which laws give you the right to keep the loot while you acted illegal and criminal?