November real test for Bitcoin ?

[1991runner]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

EDIT:  Guys i guess there is some confusion here about my question. I am not questioning the Long Term Value of Bitcoin. My Question here is that how much price can dip this time before it rockets again.  Thanks 

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[LilloBoy]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

In November probably we'll see some fluctuation... but if you think to buy some bitcoin you not have to lose time, because probably the November dips will be much higher than the actual price.
First time that I wanted to buy bitcoins the price was 30$, the day after when I was ready for send the payment the price jumped to 36$.
So I thought that was better to wait... and the price went over 100$ in no time.
I did the same mistake when the price was around 300$ and I waited a dip for buy.
Finally few months ago I bought some bitcoins for 1000$ 
Don't do my mistake.... never lose time... if you want buy bitcoin just do it.
If you wait for a better chance probably you'll regret it!

[milewilda]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

Expected price would really fall on those months specially on before November fork just like what happen before on August 1 event we did see the price dips and we can really assume that this upcoming fork again would happen that kind of dips which we should really be ready on that one and as an investor i would risk to buy bitcoin as of now because we are still 2 months away and prices might still climb and we would able to sell out and take profits and when november comes keep an eye on the dip and buy cheap coins because price will bounce back for sure.

[OmegaStarScream]

I don't see why the price would go down this time, since one split already happened, people already understand how things work now, there is no reason to sell. A lot of people sold the last time (out of panic) until the price reached 1800$ but the price didn't take much until recovered but since everyone is familiar on how things will go, I doubt anyone will sell this time, I even expect to see the price increase as soon as SegWit start to take effect and LN get released.

[BitcoinHodler]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined.

November is 3 months from now and in that time a lot of things can change. and also until that time bitcoin will probably have more rise until October and then start having issues with the FUD.

remember the month of July and read all the topics with "Aug 1" in their titles. the same thing can happen.

Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin.

is that block height set now? i really want to know, this is the first time i am seeing a solid date for the hard fork to be honest.

So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

the same as August fork, it is hard to say at this point. the closer we get to that date (like 1 month before) things will become more heated up and then at some point it will be clear what will happen. because most people involved (like miners, etc) wait for the last minute to voice their support or no support!
and everyone enjoys the FUD and drops it brings. it is like summer sale all over again, this time called winter sale

[Yoandy10]

I don’t think that the price will dip necessarily due to the split in November. I would buy now. I bought some at $1900 a couple months back thinking that it was too expensive. But now I’m glad I did, because the price has tripled. Do it now. By November the price will be at $6000

[Herlina]

i learn from experience,
in early August, many people make a issue that BTC prices will fall due to hard fork BitcoinCash.
but you can see at this time, BTC goes up and bitcoin holders are happy about getting free BitcoinCash  

[TrumpD]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

The fluctuations will be around what is normal. Nothing major as the previous has proved that there is nothing to fear from a fork. Who knows with this market though, it does not take much to send people into panic.

[Lanatsa]

I don't see why the price would go down this time, since one split already happened, people already understand how things work now, there is no reason to sell. A lot of people sold the last time (out of panic) until the price reached 1800$ but the price didn't take much until recovered but since everyone is familiar on how things will go, I doubt anyone will sell this time, I even expect to see the price increase as soon as SegWit start to take effect and LN get released.

This is possible that there would be no dip or price decrease but this thing would really depend on the community if there an another fud that would create panic selling just like before.Price did eventually get up after the dip and lucky for those people who did buy back on those range and still holding as of now because they are really making good profits.

[buwaytress]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

Don't worry about November. Get your coins now and keep the investment. Let's assume if you do that now, the things you predict happens:

1. Worse fluctuations than July happens. Prices stabilise after, and you have Bitcoins and another alt.
2. A repeat of August happens. Prices rise for BTC, and you have another alt.

Let's say something else happens: BTC plummets and the alt inexplicably becomes the dominant one. Oh but luckily, you also have the alt since you bought BTC before the fork.

All roads point you to: buy BTC now (or at least, before Nov).

[Red-Apple]

the best course of action is to invest now that it is month before the drama begins and hold bitcoin. that way price rises and you won't miss out and after the rise in case it dropped it is still going to be much higher than the price you bought at. and you can buy more in that particular dip and also in case a split happened you will gain 2 coins

and after that the true bitcoin with the most support will be bitcoin and the price of it will be higher and continue on the previous rising path.

[webmastax]

I suggest you to keep buying bitcoins. Now people are more familiar with forks. Maybe after November you find yourself with bitcoin rising and another alt split as bonus.
Let's be optimistic 

[Rinaze]

I don't see why the price would go down this time, since one split already happened, people already understand how things work now, there is no reason to sell. A lot of people sold the last time (out of panic) until the price reached 1800$ but the price didn't take much until recovered but since everyone is familiar on how things will go, I doubt anyone will sell this time, I even expect to see the price increase as soon as SegWit start to take effect and LN get released.

The hard fork in the upcoming November definitely carry much more weight than the soft fork that happens in August. The soft fork that happen in August might be just one group of people behind but the one is November consist of 50+ big group of supporters / companies. Just do a quick Google search on The New York Agreement. Then again I don't think the dip will be dramatic as people will be buying in hoping that they get another big free airdrop 1:1 if the hard fork do happens.

[serhishulak]

i think you shouldn't worry about that. if you here for a long time you know that btc is always up and down. you shouldn't be scared about that

[BrewMaster]

you are rushing to make a decision about something that is far away from us.
the UASF drama and all the other crap regarding August 1st didn't affect bitcoin price in January! they did it in July instead where the FUD was at its highest and price was struggling with that 2 big dips once to $1800ish and the other i forgot

[Mtoo]

Many people  asking  about that change in Nov but you have to wait up to October  and we will see if change possible or not

[leex1528]

What is the big deal with November?  I think the higher transaction fees are actually going to hurt bitcoin a little bit...
If there is another split or something in November I think we won't see a price change for a couple of months at least.

[Rinaze]

What is the big deal with November?  I think the higher transaction fees are actually going to hurt bitcoin a little bit...
If there is another split or something in November I think we won't see a price change for a couple of months at least.

The differences between August and November this time is majority of the BTC community is supportive of the split (hence hard fork) while the August split is the opposite of that (hence soft fork). A split in any currency coin can be quite unpredictable for the market I guess. Anyway, isn't Segwit supposed to ease the transaction fees a bit while the developers try to implement LN?

[Kronos21]

I have no ability to influence any decision of the community so I try not to think about it. What's the point? Just shake the nervous system. Come what may I will accept any outcome. But it seems to me that any changes we do not
we'll see. Someone will work on the panic and all.

[leex1528]

What is the big deal with November?  I think the higher transaction fees are actually going to hurt bitcoin a little bit...
If there is another split or something in November I think we won't see a price change for a couple of months at least.

The differences between August and November this time is majority of the BTC community is supportive of the split (hence hard fork) while the August split is the opposite of that (hence soft fork). A split in any currency coin can be quite unpredictable for the market I guess. Anyway, isn't Segwit supposed to ease the transaction fees a bit while the developers try to implement LN?

How do they split it up?   So is it like a stock that they decide to break up?  Like how Apple did years ago? 

If they do split it how on earth are they going to say how much each coin will be worth through a wallet?  Like will .002 coins become 2 coins or something along those lines?

[albert11]

Do not waste time. Many mistakes are wasted. Have not we learned yet? This august Bitcoin Fork took place and we saw the decline of its price. And in November Hard Fork will again take place where it will develop again and will be the result of increasing prices. So we expect double the price of the keep keep bitcoins. 10,000 $ is coming soon

[aoluain]

Do not waste time. Many mistakes are wasted. Have not we learned yet? This august Bitcoin Fork took place and we saw the decline of its price. And in November Hard Fork will again take place where it will develop again and will be the result of increasing prices. So we expect double the price of the keep keep bitcoins. 10,000 $ is coming soon

I have eluded to this before, Bitcoin is constantly rising and when it falls it creates a new low.
I firmly believe we wont see bitcoin fall far below $4000 with the next fluctuation,
and then it will climb higher than it is now <> $4600.
So Novembers fluctuation will still be higher than the current price!

[Babyjamz3026]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

In November probably we'll see some fluctuation... but if you think to buy some bitcoin you not have to lose time, because probably the November dips will be much higher than the actual price.
First time that I wanted to buy bitcoins the price was 30$, the day after when I was ready for send the payment the price jumped to 36$.
So I thought that was better to wait... and the price went over 100$ in no time.
I did the same mistake when the price was around 300$ and I waited a dip for buy.
Finally few months ago I bought some bitcoins for 1000$ 
Don't do my mistake.... never lose time... if you want buy bitcoin just do it.
If you wait for a better chance probably you'll regret it!

Your right about this things, I would definitely agreed with pal, as much as we can afford to buy now we must take the chance always before its too late. and besides in this coming nov. I saw its nothing different for what happened this past august 1  2017. So we shouldn't panic on this day everything will be fine and bitcoin will become more get higher even there is downfall it will surely goes up again and again.

[genesis.vision]

I have no ability to influence any decision of the community so I try not to think about it. What's the point? Just shake the nervous system. Come what may I will accept any outcome. But it seems to me that any changes we do not
we'll see. Someone will work on the panic and all.

Exactly, as with SegWit2x - it all depends whether it will happen to be a good improvement or not, there are too many factors here that can't be predicted.

[Coffee135]

Bitcoin price cannot fall. The market is still not saturated. After every fall will increase that's for sure. I am not afraid of the situation in November. I'm more afraid of the trend towards permanent separation. This can undermine the confidence of potential investors and bitcoin will lose capitalization.

[iamTom123]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hard fork somewhere around in November when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hard fork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level? Let me know your thoughts. 

We have nothing to worry about the coming November hard fork as we already have the precedent in August 1 which eventually created the famous BitcoinCash or BCH which is really doing fine in the market as of press time. I am suggesting that the best time to get into Bitcoin is now as November or December for that matter can mean you have to pay more...it is not yet too late but it can cost more by that time. Just go and buy your Bitcoin today as I am sure you will not regret it even if there can be some fluctuations or heavy volatility at that time.

[bitbunnny]

If you have the money to invest in Bitcoin do it know but you don't have to bother yourself much about what will happen in November. Some not so nice predictions were made for Bitcoin in June but we all have witnessed that nothing dramatic has happened. And no one can't tell now for sure how the situation will be in November so don't think so far ahead.

[Bitcoininvestment]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

I heard that will be another split that will happened this coming november o guess also they are again trying to split another coin from its identity as we know last lady mothn the bitcoin cash successfully been split in bitcoin and completely become a altcoin in the market.

[monocolor]

if everything goes on fine with bitcoin in november, the price could shoot up to $7000-8000 range. December is traditionally very strong month for bitcoin.

[iqlimasyadiqa]

If you have the money to invest in Bitcoin do it know but you don't have to bother yourself much about what will happen in November. Some not so nice predictions were made for Bitcoin in June but we all have witnessed that nothing dramatic has happened. And no one can't tell now for sure how the situation will be in November so don't think so far ahead.

Yes still too far to think what happened in november. I think there will be a better improvement than the previous month. We have seen the superior bitcoin current as well as the increasing development of bitcoin. So not just november, every month bitcoin always getting better.

[greeklogos]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

Expected price would really fall on those months specially on before November fork just like what happen before on August 1 event we did see the price dips and we can really assume that this upcoming fork again would happen that kind of dips which we should really be ready on that one and as an investor i would risk to buy bitcoin as of now because we are still 2 months away and prices might still climb and we would able to sell out and take profits and when november comes keep an eye on the dip and buy cheap coins because price will bounce back for sure.

The price had fallen only cause of a smart game of speculators who made the mass panic around the fork. I doubt that people will eat the same story again. So, I don't expect some big fall by November.  

[CarnagexD]

I don't see why the price would go down this time, since one split already happened, people already understand how things work now, there is no reason to sell. A lot of people sold the last time (out of panic) until the price reached 1800$ but the price didn't take much until recovered but since everyone is familiar on how things will go, I doubt anyone will sell this time, I even expect to see the price increase as soon as SegWit start to take effect and LN get released.

There is a rumor about a new hard for that would actually happened vto bitcoin again. So the movement in terms of bitcoin price is always set as test for its development and for people to rust it system on transactions and for investments. Before during the first ever splitting of Bitcoin there are lot of wasted decision because of the sudden price drop of Bitcoin that results on panic selling of their Bitcoin for safety.

[azhar700]

If you have the money to invest in Bitcoin do it know but you don't have to bother yourself much about what will happen in November. Some not so nice predictions were made for Bitcoin in June but we all have witnessed that nothing dramatic has happened. And no one can't tell now for sure how the situation will be in November so don't think so far ahead.

that's right ,, my fears bring destruction for me when hard fork happened on August 1st ago, i sold my bitcoin for fear of going bad thing on bitcoin. but see the fact, bitcoin even more increasing the price. and for november, I no longer feel the fear of storing bitcoin from now on. do or not at all.

[TheQuin]

I don't expect that it will have much effect on BTC price. The thing I would do is to make sure you buy before the fork and hold the coin in a wallet that you control the private key. That way you will get both coins after the split. With Bitcoin Cash that was a 15% bonus and whatever it is next time it will be worth having.

[BitFinnese]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

Fluctuation in Bitcoin is not new.  We can see it in the market everyday.  Aside from that, isn't it best to invest today than wait for Nov.?  There are lots of speculators in the market aside from the fact that Bitcoin market is driven by speculators, price might probably soar before the event and from the recent fork data, there will be  possible increase price of Bitcoin.

[Oceat]

Do not waste time. Many mistakes are wasted. Have not we learned yet? This august Bitcoin Fork took place and we saw the decline of its price. And in November Hard Fork will again take place where it will develop again and will be the result of increasing prices. So we expect double the price of the keep keep bitcoins. 10,000 $ is coming soon

I think this is too much for now. $10,000 is a little bit too high right now. How would the hardfork will going to affect the price of bitcoin to double in November? What if those Whales were going to move again? Will they really have to set the price to $10,000? I don't think they will since this is just too much and it could be a big lose to them if they sell those bitcoins to a cheaper price.

[Meraki]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

Dont be afraid to buy bitcoin, although like what happened in August 1 they predicted that bitcoin's price will dump so others tends to panic selling their bitcoin but what happen after the fork? bitcoin's price increase dramatically. So no one can say what will happen if the fork happen again maybe another pump or maybe dump this time. But it is good to have bitcoin as early as possible because in the future bitcoin will pump as high as it can

[fearcoka]

I don't expect that it will have much effect on BTC price. The thing I would do is to make sure you buy before the fork and hold the coin in a wallet that you control the private key. That way you will get both coins after the split. With Bitcoin Cash that was a 15% bonus and whatever it is next time it will be worth having.

Do you think we will receive new Bitcoin after HardFork in November like Bitcoin Cash in August? But you need have to remember fork new coin just make the trust of Bitcoin decrease and investor will worry future of Bitcoin, very easy for create new coin with high value ...

[TheQuin]

I don't expect that it will have much effect on BTC price. The thing I would do is to make sure you buy before the fork and hold the coin in a wallet that you control the private key. That way you will get both coins after the split. With Bitcoin Cash that was a 15% bonus and whatever it is next time it will be worth having.

Do you think we will receive new Bitcoin after HardFork in November like Bitcoin Cash in August? But you need have to remember fork new coin just make the trust of Bitcoin decrease and investor will worry future of Bitcoin, very easy for create new coin with high value ...

HardFork means the blockchain splits into 2, both with the same data up until the point of the split. So if you have the private keys to coin on the original chain then they will also be valid on the new chain. If however, you have your coin somewhere that you don't have the private key then it is up to whoever does to decide if they will give you the new coin or keep it for themselves.

BCC doesn't seem to have deterred any investors in Bitcoin and I don't see any reason that will be different in November.

[roadbits]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

Dont be afraid to buy bitcoin, although like what happened in August 1 they predicted that bitcoin's price will dump so others tends to panic selling their bitcoin but what happen after the fork? bitcoin's price increase dramatically. So no one can say what will happen if the fork happen again maybe another pump or maybe dump this time. But it is good to have bitcoin as early as possible because in the future bitcoin will pump as high as it can

This hard fork gives us one more opportunity to buy bitcoins for a low price. When it happened in August the price dump first later, it increased. So the same will repeat in November. My opinion is now the price is very high so wait for next month and sell your coins hold your fiat currency. When the price dumps buy again Bitcoin, and after hard fork, your bitcoins will give you big profit.

[deisik]

I don't see why the price would go down this time, since one split already happened, people already understand how things work now, there is no reason to sell. A lot of people sold the last time (out of panic) until the price reached 1800$ but the price didn't take much until recovered but since everyone is familiar on how things will go, I doubt anyone will sell this time, I even expect to see the price increase as soon as SegWit start to take effect and LN get released

Hard fork is not the same as split

Splitting is in effect creating a new Bitcoin, i.e. a Bitcoin clone (or an altcoin based on Bitcoin if you please). A Bitcoin hardfork, on the other hand, may not look as dramatic as a split (which seems to be your point) but it may potentially cause more harm since it is assumed that Bitcoin doesn't get split but upgraded. Nevertheless, the latter is a whole can of worms on its own, especially if something goes out of whack in the process of upgrading the software. So, while it may not cause panic sells prior to the event, it may cause them after the event if things don't go as planned

[Howell]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

You are smart to have realized the importance of due diligence before embarking on any project. Also your findings are on the spot, November is going to put Bitcoin and in fact, the entire cryptocurrency world on a hot seat again as those behind Segwit2x would likely want to implement the next phase of their scaling plan, which is to hard fork the Bitcoin network, which Bitcoin core would likely reject.

Since November  is still some time, you can enjoy the Bitcoin cruise at the moment , but ensure to disembark before things get bumpy, then take the wait n see position till the storm be over.

[nicosey]

What is the exact date?

[jekanmasin]

just do what you think right. to many think will brought you to the wrong decision at last. bitcoin surely rises. dont need to worry about it.

[Cormoran]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

From what I've been hearing on the forums, people seem to be gung-ho about November... which suggests to me that we won't actually see much of a dip before it, but could see one afterwards if there are unanticipated technical difficulties getting everything working with whatever changes are made. If everyone's expecting to buy BTC right before the fork and then see it soar in value as well as getting the altcoin, it will probably have the opposite effect in reality, the moment there are any difficulties anyway.

[bitcoindusts]

Do not waste time. Many mistakes are wasted. Have not we learned yet? This august Bitcoin Fork took place and we saw the decline of its price. And in November Hard Fork will again take place where it will develop again and will be the result of increasing prices. So we expect double the price of the keep keep bitcoins. 10,000 $ is coming soon

I agree that there will be an increase in price after NOVEMBER HARDFORK.  We have seen how price of Bitcoin go up before the update of August 1, though it plummets for sometime but it easily recover and now somehow stable at its current fluctuation range.  Aside from that adoption and  market saturation is increasing.  I believe there will be lots of FUD that will appear but the support and hype of the upcoming upgrade will outweigh the FUD.

[Karartma1]

Everything depends on the form that the infamous November Fork will take. I sincerely hope we'll not end up having "another" Bitcoin. This will create too much confusion around even if on a side note, I have to admit that it seems the market does not care much about forks.....

[3kpk3]

The best optimistic approach here is to simply buy as many bitcoins as you can and HODL. Stop worrying about what is going to happen in the future since no one can predict the future. Bitcoin value may go down or up because of different reasons like hard forks, segwit etc, but in the long run it will definitely rise according to me due to the supply and demand logic.

[Vishnu.Reang]

The split on August 1 took the exchange rate of Bitcoin from $1,800 per coin to $4,500 per coin. And I am sure that the fork on November will take this from $4,500 to $10,000. I am optimistic about the rates.

[digdugg67]

Do not waste time. Many mistakes are wasted. Have not we learned yet? This august Bitcoin Fork took place and we saw the decline of its price. And in November Hard Fork will again take place where it will develop again and will be the result of increasing prices. So we expect double the price of the keep keep bitcoins. 10,000 $ is coming soon

I agree that there will be an increase in price after NOVEMBER HARDFORK.  We have seen how price of Bitcoin go up before the update of August 1, though it plummets for sometime but it easily recover and now somehow stable at its current fluctuation range.  Aside from that adoption and  market saturation is increasing.  I believe there will be lots of FUD that will appear but the support and hype of the upcoming upgrade will outweigh the FUD.

I think it's possible to make up to 7-8 thousand dollars, but before the hardfreak itself there will be a price reduction, as it was before August 1.
As a result, we can see after all this, again not the right fork Bitcoin, and the first bitcoin will continue to grow in price, because he is the real Bitcoin, progenitor

[peter0425]

Do not waste time. Many mistakes are wasted. Have not we learned yet? This august Bitcoin Fork took place and we saw the decline of its price. And in November Hard Fork will again take place where it will develop again and will be the result of increasing prices. So we expect double the price of the keep keep bitcoins. 10,000 $ is coming soon

I agree that there will be an increase in price after NOVEMBER HARDFORK.  We have seen how price of Bitcoin go up before the update of August 1, though it plummets for sometime but it easily recover and now somehow stable at its current fluctuation range.  Aside from that adoption and  market saturation is increasing.  I believe there will be lots of FUD that will appear but the support and hype of the upcoming upgrade will outweigh the FUD.

There will be always FUD here no matter if there is a fork or not. But as you have mentioned we should all braced ourselves specially once the date nears as I'm sure that there will be waves of FUD coming in our way spreading rumors with one intention, to sell your bitcoins. And for old timers here, we are again to defend bitcoin from those schills and tell newbies not to be affected by it.

I also think that there will be a spike in price if ever there will be a looming fork come November. We can only speculate as to high the price could go as no one can really predict the price of bitcoin. But I'm optimistic that it could go as high as $7000 before the end of this year.

[nakata90]

The split on August 1 took the exchange rate of Bitcoin from $1,800 per coin to $4,500 per coin. And I am sure that the fork on November will take this from $4,500 to $10,000. I am optimistic about the rates.

I hope it's true and not a dream, still time quite far away so we can make more profit from BTC. Probably in September this BTC will grow up to 5000 $, i'm expecting that to happen. I also firmly believe that investors are looking forward to it just as I

[onrise]

Even I was reading about the same that it can happen . But based in that I would not change the decision of buying Btc now beacuse considering the 1st Aug  event price has only risen. It has reached to 4600 $ so if Btc is pit to test it only rises mostly . This keep buying now and sell later at good gains rather than just regretting later if not buying Btc at lower rates .

[Jeger.Kiting]

Even I was reading about the same that it can happen . But based in that I would not change the decision of buying Btc now beacuse considering the 1st Aug  event price has only risen. It has reached to 4600 $ so if Btc is pit to test it only rises mostly . This keep buying now and sell later at good gains rather than just regretting later if not buying Btc at lower rates .

I think this is the best decision for you, because by the way you make a decision like this, you will not get caught in the risk of big loss to buy BTC for a high price, maybe you should see BTC development first. Next you can decide which is right for you to buy BTC.

[soy]

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[audaciousbeing]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

EDIT:  Guys i guess there is some confusion here about my question. I am not questioning the Long Term Value of Bitcoin. My Question here is that how much price can dip this time before it rockets again.  Thanks 

On how dip price can get, is not what anyone can predict but I know now matter dip the price got, bitcoin will bounce again and that's a fact. All I see happening in November is a repetition of what we witnessed in August and this thread is a beginning of the series of threads that will follow in the coming days as we had it in days building towards August 1.

[soy]

Do not panic sell as many will do ...

November may lead to a slight decline that will be corrected immediately. Take advantage to buy btc if you are fast enough, but, the course of the btc will not collapse permanently. The best is to touch nothing, to leave the storm past and then it will be directly to the moon!

[squatter]

if everything goes on fine with bitcoin in november, the price could shoot up to $7000-8000 range. December is traditionally very strong month for bitcoin.

What's your definition of "fine?"

Since the November fork is a hard fork, it will cause a split from the original network. If the entire ecosystem migrates to Segwit2x, there will be no split, but that seems unlikely. If the fork happens and there is significant support for both chains, I think this could have a very negative effect on price. It's impossible to predict, though.

[NL-Bitcoin]

Bcash.... SegWitx2.... They are all altcoins.
You should always know Bitcoin will beat them all 

[laluna24]

Even I was reading about the same that it can happen . But based in that I would not change the decision of buying Btc now beacuse considering the 1st Aug  event price has only risen. It has reached to 4600 $ so if Btc is pit to test it only rises mostly . This keep buying now and sell later at good gains rather than just regretting later if not buying Btc at lower rates .

I think this is the best decision for you, because by the way you make a decision like this, you will not get caught in the risk of big loss to buy BTC for a high price, maybe you should see BTC development first. Next you can decide which is right for you to buy BTC.

It depends on you if you have to buy btc at this rate. I think there is a fluctuation of btc on November and I can see the price will be high than today. Though we can't predict the actual price may happen after segwit.

[949miner]

I really think that bitcoin needs to lower the fees a bit. It is so high right now, i had to send a payment of $30 and i had to pay $8 worth of fees, even more expensive that PayPal fees (since they are too high too)
but it all will depends on how the bitcoin goes, all the mess with segwit is now in the past, we now have to watch closely how bitcoin will keep the trace.
And about the price, i think it will reach $5k before november.

[SokrieeE]

I really think that bitcoin needs to lower the fees a bit. It is so high right now, i had to send a payment of $30 and i had to pay $8 worth of fees, even more expensive that PayPal fees (since they are too high too)
but it all will depends on how the bitcoin goes, all the mess with segwit is now in the past, we now have to watch closely how bitcoin will keep the trace.
And about the price, i think it will reach $5k before november.

I expect vais versa in November long time from now a head i speculate bitcoin price will test 7000 $ at that time , Donate some money if i am correct then .

[soy]

I really think that bitcoin needs to lower the fees a bit. It is so high right now, i had to send a payment of $30 and i had to pay $8 worth of fees, even more expensive that PayPal fees (since they are too high too)
but it all will depends on how the bitcoin goes, all the mess with segwit is now in the past, we now have to watch closely how bitcoin will keep the trace.
And about the price, i think it will reach $5k before november.

I expect vais versa in November long time from now a head i speculate bitcoin price will test 7000 $ at that time , Donate some money if i am correct then .

Ahah everyone predicts the course of the bitcoin at this level there, I do not see what it is exceptional there in lol!
Wet a little and predicted a BTC to 100,000 $ in 2020 and there I will congratulate you!

[xuan87]

If there will be hardfork the price will fall down again, no matter how well people understand about this, it will affected the Bitcoin price, the forking in Aug made Bitcoin  price slide down to 3800$, it is hard to predict what will be the price this time but it won't be fall down lower than 4000$ and if it is successful then we will see 7000$

[ameliana]

for me, I do not think about it, which is important for me to have bitcoin and sell it as necessary as the rest I save.Because the incident of 1st of August proves that bitcoin remains the number 1 of the from other altcoin.

[poplolnman]

I really think that bitcoin needs to lower the fees a bit. It is so high right now, i had to send a payment of $30 and i had to pay $8 worth of fees, even more expensive that PayPal fees (since they are too high too)
but it all will depends on how the bitcoin goes, all the mess with segwit is now in the past, we now have to watch closely how bitcoin will keep the trace.
And about the price, i think it will reach $5k before november.

we can change the way people look at the fee value , with bitcoin price recently it's indeed only give benefit to the early miner , $5 as a fee might mean nothing. but to those people who bought bitcoin lately i don't think so , i would think twice before sending a transaction with that high fee. the slow network should be done before december , otherwise a lot of people could suffering and lost their interest to invest more in bitcoin even leaving.

[fossilized]

Been in bitcoin for years. Each time there is an improvement in protocols there will always be FUD. But it will be good to look above the technical issues and see the basis of how bitcoin works: a community that supports the development and use of bitcoin. And as long as they support and sustain btc, it doesn't matter how many hardforks occur.

[Cormoran]

Been in bitcoin for years. Each time there is an improvement in protocols there will always be FUD. But it will be good to look above the technical issues and see the basis of how bitcoin works: a community that supports the development and use of bitcoin. And as long as they support and sustain btc, it doesn't matter how many hardforks occur.

It doesn't matter, and yet it really does because it can affect the way the people who haven't drank the Kool-Aid yet view things. Right now, people are either seeing a new technology taking off, or a bubble that's about to pop, and either way they're interested. Some want to get in early and ride it to the top, and some want to get in early and cash out before it blows up, but either way it has a lot of momentum. More forks create more uncertainty. Even if it's not actually a fork but just an alteration of the technology by a consensus, it causes some uncertainty; a real hardfork, where a large portion of the miners go in a different direction, could be far worse. Some people were saying that they recommended not initiating any transactions with Bitcoin for two weeks after the soft fork, but most people ignored that and went on with business as usual after a day or two. If it actually took two weeks or a month for people to start using Bitcoin again, that would slow the momentum down significantly; or worse yet if a hard fork and patchy adoption of technology actually made a lot of people flat-out lose their coins it wouldn't be easy to recover. People got past Mt. Gox, but that was with much lower value in Bitcoin and was also only one bad actor. A slight mistake in a hardfork costing billions with no possibility of reimbursement, since there's no central agency... well, right now we're seeing institutional investors very interested in Bitcoin, but at the first appearance that the technology is flawed a lot of potential investors might be heading for the hills. Of course, it might also just cause another buying frenzy once the sharks see all that red ink in the water. I'm glad that you have faith, but in my experience nothing is certain. You might say I'm absolutely certain that nothing is certain, actually...

[danherbias07]

Sorry but I dont believe it will dip that deep. 
Even with events that will happen it can rise.
Remember ETF was rejected and yet the price went up.
BU came and yet the price went up again.
BCH is here and yet the price stayed like this for a long time .
The highest dip would be just 200 to 300 dollars and thats it.
Brace yourself with the BER months. You might want to have some bitcoin before that.

[Karartma1]

Bcash.... SegWitx2.... They are all altcoins.
You should always know Bitcoin will beat them all 

Well said man!
There have never been so many altcoins around like these days (and I don't want to countless ICO tokens which are also on the stage). What I see at the top is Bitcoin nothing else.
Actually, I wonder where the flippening went 

[deisik]

if everything goes on fine with bitcoin in november, the price could shoot up to $7000-8000 range. December is traditionally very strong month for bitcoin.

What's your definition of "fine?"

Since the November fork is a hard fork, it will cause a split from the original network. If the entire ecosystem migrates to Segwit2x, there will be no split, but that seems unlikely. If the fork happens and there is significant support for both chains, I think this could have a very negative effect on price. It's impossible to predict, though.

You've meant to say if the split happens, right?

Since soft as well as hard forks themselves don't necessarily imply there should be a split. Further, why do you think that it is unlikely that the whole Bitcoin world (well, apart from the Bitcoin Cash part obviously, though who knows) is going to migrate to SegWit2x? Yes, this whole initiative is rather political shenanigans of the NY agreement participants, and Bitcoin Core developers may refuse to update the client to the 2x part in the end but we haven't yet heard any definitive statement on their part regarding this issue

[Bittoshi]

If you want to invest in Bitcoins, do it now, no matter what. When you look back at the last split, when Bitcoin Cash came out, lots of investors thought Bitcoin would decrease in price but the opposite happened and look where it is now. It's raising from one all time high to the next.

Even if there is another split in November, Bitcoin will stay the main chain. There were so many other splits in the past and the original main chain gets stronger and stronger every time. And what should you do if the price crashes unexpected? Buy more Bitcoins when they are cheap. 

[pikebu]

November is the for the activation of segwit2x on bitcoins network, it will makes real testing for bitcoins, is it will makes bitcoins to be better or it will makes bad for bitcoins due to everything can be happened to bitcoins network include crash of network although the activation of segwit2x is bug fixing scaling problem but the risk of it is bitcoins network crashing, so we must think about the bad and good posibility on bitcoins.

[casey.anthony195]

November will be a harsh month for Bitcoin, especially after Bitcoin Cash announced its' technology development plan.

[casey.anthony195]

Bcash.... SegWitx2.... They are all altcoins.
You should always know Bitcoin will beat them all 

Well said man!
There have never been so many altcoins around like these days (and I don't want to countless ICO tokens which are also on the stage). What I see at the top is Bitcoin nothing else.
Actually, I wonder where the flippening went 

These altcoins may not have had success in the past, but that doesn't mean that they can't grow into a formidable opponent for Bitcoin in time. 

[marky89]

Been in bitcoin for years. Each time there is an improvement in protocols there will always be FUD. But it will be good to look above the technical issues and see the basis of how bitcoin works: a community that supports the development and use of bitcoin. And as long as they support and sustain btc, it doesn't matter how many hardforks occur.

Here's the problem. Core developers (most Bitcoin developers) don't see it as an improvement, and actively oppose the fork. So, if the Segwit2x team and the miners/businesses backing them really move forward with the fork, then the FUD is warranted.

This isn't like a soft fork where a simple majority of miners can prevent a split from occurring. A hard fork "upgrade" requires that every user installs new software and joins a new network. That means a split is guaranteed already. Add the fact that Core and many BTC users don't support Segwit2x? Get your popcorn ready.

[milewilda]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

Expected price would really fall on those months specially on before November fork just like what happen before on August 1 event we did see the price dips and we can really assume that this upcoming fork again would happen that kind of dips which we should really be ready on that one and as an investor i would risk to buy bitcoin as of now because we are still 2 months away and prices might still climb and we would able to sell out and take profits and when november comes keep an eye on the dip and buy cheap coins because price will bounce back for sure.

The price had fallen only cause of a smart game of speculators who made the mass panic around the fork. I doubt that people will eat the same story again. So, I don't expect some big fall by November.  

You are right those price dips where caused by those fuds around made by people or lets just say that whales are included on those people. Which it do really cause dip of prices and when the right price range have been set then they did buy on those points and the price rose up in a short span of days which really did make huge profits for those people who bought on those dips.It will happen again before november for sure.

[deisik]

Been in bitcoin for years. Each time there is an improvement in protocols there will always be FUD. But it will be good to look above the technical issues and see the basis of how bitcoin works: a community that supports the development and use of bitcoin. And as long as they support and sustain btc, it doesn't matter how many hardforks occur.

Here's the problem. Core developers (most Bitcoin developers) don't see it as an improvement, and actively oppose the fork. So, if the Segwit2x team and the miners/businesses backing them really move forward with the fork, then the FUD is warranted.

This isn't like a soft fork where a simple majority of miners can prevent a split from occurring. A hard fork "upgrade" requires that every user installs new software and joins a new network. That means a split is guaranteed already. Add the fact that Core and many BTC users don't support Segwit2x? Get your popcorn ready.

But now we have Bitcoin Cash

So what's the purpose of the NY agreement conspirators forking Bitcoin (again) provided there is no consensus between them and the Bitcoin Core team (which seems to be the case)? Would it make any sense to create yet another Bitcoin when there is already an 8M block Bitcoin? I don't think that two Bitcoins is a good idea anyway but three is certainly an overkill. Could the SegWit2x proponents just abandon the 2x part since it would basically replicate Bitcoin Cash if made into a separate Bitcoin?

[bitcoinmaniac52]

I hope in November we see some real progress. See, transactions are too high right now and it is killing Bitcoin... not literally, but if it continue like this then I am afraid it will. We need the Lightning Network.

[craZyLovE0916]

November is indeed a major test for Bitcoin. Probably comparable to the fiasco in early August, but likely not as bad. There was Bitcoin Cash at that time as well which threw a wrench into everything.

[marky89]

Been in bitcoin for years. Each time there is an improvement in protocols there will always be FUD. But it will be good to look above the technical issues and see the basis of how bitcoin works: a community that supports the development and use of bitcoin. And as long as they support and sustain btc, it doesn't matter how many hardforks occur.

Here's the problem. Core developers (most Bitcoin developers) don't see it as an improvement, and actively oppose the fork. So, if the Segwit2x team and the miners/businesses backing them really move forward with the fork, then the FUD is warranted.

This isn't like a soft fork where a simple majority of miners can prevent a split from occurring. A hard fork "upgrade" requires that every user installs new software and joins a new network. That means a split is guaranteed already. Add the fact that Core and many BTC users don't support Segwit2x? Get your popcorn ready.

But now we have Bitcoin Cash

So what's the purpose of the NY agreement conspirators forking Bitcoin (again) provided there is no consensus between them and the Bitcoin Core team (which seems to be the case)?

There is also no consensus to support Bitcoin Cash's 8MB block size (without Segwit). The NYA signatories never agreed to it and never indicated any support for it -- except Bitmain via proxies like ViaBTC. So why would you assume that it could act as a substitute for the Segwit2x fork?

My take is that Bitcoin Cash appeals to the Bitcoin Unlimited camp. They have always been on the extreme end of the "let's break things" mindset. Core and the small block camp remain towards the other extreme, against any hard forks except under very limited circumstances.

The majority of miners (excluding Bitmain) and major BTC services seem to support a "meet in the middle" approach. In that regard, not much has changed since the NYA emerged a few months ago.

Would it make any sense to create yet another Bitcoin when there is already an 8M block Bitcoin? I don't think that two Bitcoins is a good idea anyway but three is certainly an overkill. Could the SegWit2x proponents just abandon the 2x part since it would basically replicate Bitcoin Cash if made into a separate Bitcoin?

Sure, that's one possibility. Another possibility is that they go forward with the hard fork under the assumption that the Bitcoin ecosystem will largely follow (leaving the legacy chain to die). I think that's a bad assumption, but who knows what they'll do?

[bbcolex]

Flactuation of Bitcoin price will be good either way. This will give bitcoin again spotlight , News and of course FREE COINS means free money. You'll be lucky if you will be able to buy bitcoin below 4k  Whatever falls will RISE, and it's a WIN/WIN situation for holders i really don't think you don't need to panic or worry about the said fork. Again, new coin will hit 100$ first week , and Let's not forget about LITECOIN. November will be big for LITECOIN 

[panganib999]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

EDIT:  Guys i guess there is some confusion here about my question. I am not questioning the Long Term Value of Bitcoin. My Question here is that how much price can dip this time before it rockets again.  Thanks 

As it continue another split will happened i dont really know ehat id in there mind but in my opinion i guesd they are really trying to make the market value of bitcoin sky rocket again as theast pump in the market i guess already rich its limit so i guess they were really trying to push bitcoin to its limit.

[deisik]

Been in bitcoin for years. Each time there is an improvement in protocols there will always be FUD. But it will be good to look above the technical issues and see the basis of how bitcoin works: a community that supports the development and use of bitcoin. And as long as they support and sustain btc, it doesn't matter how many hardforks occur.

Here's the problem. Core developers (most Bitcoin developers) don't see it as an improvement, and actively oppose the fork. So, if the Segwit2x team and the miners/businesses backing them really move forward with the fork, then the FUD is warranted.

This isn't like a soft fork where a simple majority of miners can prevent a split from occurring. A hard fork "upgrade" requires that every user installs new software and joins a new network. That means a split is guaranteed already. Add the fact that Core and many BTC users don't support Segwit2x? Get your popcorn ready.

But now we have Bitcoin Cash

So what's the purpose of the NY agreement conspirators forking Bitcoin (again) provided there is no consensus between them and the Bitcoin Core team (which seems to be the case)?

There is also no consensus to support Bitcoin Cash's 8MB block size (without Segwit). The NYA signatories never agreed to it and never indicated any support for it -- except Bitmain via proxies like ViaBTC. So why would you assume that it could act as a substitute for the Segwit2x fork?

I tend to disagree with your view

Basically, the signees of the NY agreement concurred to activate SegWit as a sort of trade-off in order to persuade the Bitcoin Core team to accept the Large Blocks proposal and change the code of the regular Bitcoin client (i.e. Bitcoin-Core) to support this proposal. Therefore, they don't need SegWit as such, at least, not so much as they need Large Blocks. Otherwise, the whole agreement makes no particular sense. But now, with Bitcoin Cash hanging around, the whole idea behind the NY conspiracy seems to have lost its meaning. It could be said that with the August split the miners shot themselves right in the foot

[Hasbro27]

I think the bitcoin price in november will not fall too deep, maybe it will go down a few dollars only, I am still sure bitcoin will continue to be mighty and worth to be selected as the investment

[andylowe]

I think the bitcoin price in november will not fall too deep, maybe it will go down a few dollars only, I am still sure bitcoin will continue to be mighty and worth to be selected as the investment

This is also what I have predicted yesterday as I was looking at the price of bitcoin chart. It will probably rise up to 5-6k September or October then falls in November at around 3-4k dollars. But it will still continue to rise. So it's better to buy bitcoin during the dip.

[amandavsc]

segwit2x will be another altcoin... just more free money

[1991runner]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

Dont be afraid to buy bitcoin, although like what happened in August 1 they predicted that bitcoin's price will dump so others tends to panic selling their bitcoin but what happen after the fork? bitcoin's price increase dramatically. So no one can say what will happen if the fork happen again maybe another pump or maybe dump this time. But it is good to have bitcoin as early as possible because in the future bitcoin will pump as high as it can

This hard fork gives us one more opportunity to buy bitcoins for a low price. When it happened in August the price dump first later, it increased. So the same will repeat in November. My opinion is now the price is very high so wait for next month and sell your coins hold your fiat currency. When the price dumps buy again Bitcoin, and after hard fork, your bitcoins will give you big profit.

How Low prices can go this time after Hard Fork .. Please let me know i am gathering capital to invest i need some time though not more than a month but i am afraid during that period it can go much higher and when it falls it will still be above the current above .

[knightmairesaint]

I hope in November we see some real progress. See, transactions are too high right now and it is killing Bitcoin... not literally, but if it continue like this then I am afraid it will. We need the Lightning Network.

Right, processing bitcoin is too costly that you may always wonder why is it like that. Transaction fee from exchangers and wallet is too high that it eats high amount from the amount you are going to withdraw or cash out. I do really hope that somehow an action will be applied this situation that will make the fees lower.  I do hope also for the bitcoin's market price to continue rising and for bitcoin to continue becoming popular for more investors.

[Taylorw]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

In November probably we'll see some fluctuation... but if you think to buy some bitcoin you not have to lose time, because probably the November dips will be much higher than the actual price.
First time that I wanted to buy bitcoins the price was 30$, the day after when I was ready for send the payment the price jumped to 36$.
So I thought that was better to wait... and the price went over 100$ in no time.
I did the same mistake when the price was around 300$ and I waited a dip for buy.
Finally few months ago I bought some bitcoins for 1000$ 
Don't do my mistake.... never lose time... if you want buy bitcoin just do it.
If you wait for a better chance probably you'll regret it!

I always have the same situation)) It seems that it's to late to buy, because it's already very expensive. But experience demonstrates that tomorrow it's going to be even more expensive that today

[babygun]

I am curious to see what will happen in November. The hard fork on august didn't really cause any problems, but we need to wait and see.

[BrewMaster]

segwit2x will be another altcoin... just more free money

i wouldn't be so fast in jumping to a conclusion about SegWit2x yet. it is too soon to say anything about it. and so far if the hashrate remains big things wouldn't be the same. for example if a big part of hashrate supports it (like 90%) it won't be an altcoin specially when big businesses like BitPay support it!

[TheDude24]

I may be talking out of my Arse here. But when the BCH fork happened i said this cant be good and it ended up being great. We got free coins and price has skyrocketed since. A lot of people had the same feeling as me and some didnt sell Alts for Bitcoin because they wanted nothing to do with BCH. Well when November comes and people already seeing what the BCH fork did, I think it is going to crash the Alt market because people are gonna have FOMO of another round of free coins. Lets say this happens in November and people flock in hoards back to BTC to get their free coin again and every thing goes like the BCH fork. How many times can this happen with a positive result? It would almost start looking like a ponzi scheme. Like a ponzi there would be one time (the last time) where everybody flocks to BTC and then the whales sell into the buying frenzy (because it was so awesome the previous 5 times when we got free coins) and totally crash the price and pull out the rug from everybody. This might be crazy talk here. But greed runs this world and will run Bitcoin also.

[passivebesiege]

November is indeed a major test for Bitcoin. Probably comparable to the fiasco in early August, but likely not as bad. There was Bitcoin Cash at that time as well which threw a wrench into everything.

Thats true, they will make another drama this November and spread Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. What another coin they will hatch? But again, I do believe bitcoin will come out victorious again and propel its way to $5,000 dollar or more.

[deisik]

I may be talking out of my Arse here. But when the BCH fork happened i said this cant be good and it ended up being great. We got free coins and price has skyrocketed since. A lot of people had the same feeling as me and some didnt sell Alts for Bitcoin because they wanted nothing to do with BCH. Well when November comes and people already seeing what the BCH fork did, I think it is going to crash the Alt market because people are gonna have FOMO of another round of free coins. Lets say this happens in November and people flock in hoards back to BTC to get their free coin again and every thing goes like the BCH fork. How many times can this happen with a positive result? It would almost start looking like a ponzi scheme. Like a ponzi there would be one time (the last time) where everybody flocks to BTC and then the whales sell into the buying frenzy (because it was so awesome the previous 5 times when we got free coins) and totally crash the price and pull out the rug from everybody. This might be crazy talk here. But greed runs this world and will run Bitcoin also.

Lightning never strikes twice in the same place

Right now most people seem to have missed the opportunity to buy Bitcoin Cash cheap since everyone and his grandma had been expecting that this alternative Bitcoin would quickly kick the bucket. But that didn't happen. Unlike Bitcoin Cash, the new fork has basically nothing to add beyond what the former already got (i.e. large blocks), while people may in fact be inclined to buy in massively. And ironically, this new Bitcoin could actually fall flat on its face and leave many people holding bags full of crap

[severaldetails]

I may be talking out of my Arse here. But when the BCH fork happened i said this cant be good and it ended up being great. We got free coins and price has skyrocketed since. A lot of people had the same feeling as me and some didnt sell Alts for Bitcoin because they wanted nothing to do with BCH. Well when November comes and people already seeing what the BCH fork did, I think it is going to crash the Alt market because people are gonna have FOMO of another round of free coins. Lets say this happens in November and people flock in hoards back to BTC to get their free coin again and every thing goes like the BCH fork. How many times can this happen with a positive result? It would almost start looking like a ponzi scheme. Like a ponzi there would be one time (the last time) where everybody flocks to BTC and then the whales sell into the buying frenzy (because it was so awesome the previous 5 times when we got free coins) and totally crash the price and pull out the rug from everybody. This might be crazy talk here. But greed runs this world and will run Bitcoin also.

Lightning never strikes twice in the same place

Right now most people seem to have missed the opportunity to buy Bitcoin Cash cheap since everyone and his grandma had been expecting that this alternative Bitcoin would quickly kick the bucket. But that didn't happen. Unlike Bitcoin Cash, the new fork has basically nothing to add beyond what the former already got (i.e. large blocks), while people may in fact be inclined to buy in massively. And ironically, this new Bitcoin could actually fall flat on its face and leave many people holding bags full of crap

The problem with the new fork is that it seems to have a big support of miners and bitcoin businesses.
That would make a new fork for the current bitcoin much more unpleasent than the fork in August.
Today the first bigger mining pool has removed his consent to segwit2x. Maybe some others will follow.
But if enough miners will remove their agreement to stop a fork from happening, that's doubtfull.

[deisik]

I may be talking out of my Arse here. But when the BCH fork happened i said this cant be good and it ended up being great. We got free coins and price has skyrocketed since. A lot of people had the same feeling as me and some didnt sell Alts for Bitcoin because they wanted nothing to do with BCH. Well when November comes and people already seeing what the BCH fork did, I think it is going to crash the Alt market because people are gonna have FOMO of another round of free coins. Lets say this happens in November and people flock in hoards back to BTC to get their free coin again and every thing goes like the BCH fork. How many times can this happen with a positive result? It would almost start looking like a ponzi scheme. Like a ponzi there would be one time (the last time) where everybody flocks to BTC and then the whales sell into the buying frenzy (because it was so awesome the previous 5 times when we got free coins) and totally crash the price and pull out the rug from everybody. This might be crazy talk here. But greed runs this world and will run Bitcoin also.

Lightning never strikes twice in the same place

Right now most people seem to have missed the opportunity to buy Bitcoin Cash cheap since everyone and his grandma had been expecting that this alternative Bitcoin would quickly kick the bucket. But that didn't happen. Unlike Bitcoin Cash, the new fork has basically nothing to add beyond what the former already got (i.e. large blocks), while people may in fact be inclined to buy in massively. And ironically, this new Bitcoin could actually fall flat on its face and leave many people holding bags full of crap

The problem with the new fork is that it seems to have a big support of miners and bitcoin businesses.
That would make a new fork for the current bitcoin much more unpleasent than the fork in August.
Today the first bigger mining pool has removed his consent to segwit2x. Maybe some others will follow.
But if enough miners will remove their agreement to stop a fork from happening, that's doubtfull

This is what we should expect

As I said above, miners and corporations behind the NY agreement don't need SegWit, and now when there is Bitcoin Cash still alive and kicking just a day short of its first month, the necessity for this agreement has basically vanished. If anything, it makes more sense for miners to support the existing alternative since it seems to fare quite well so far. Apart from that, I don't really think that the new fork would be a greater threat to the regular Bitcoin. As to me, it would rather compete with Bitcoin Cash than Bitcoin Core

[clip123]

Yes October and November will be good time to buy. I am waiting for that window myself.

[tauceramica]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

EDIT:  Guys i guess there is some confusion here about my question. I am not questioning the Long Term Value of Bitcoin. My Question here is that how much price can dip this time before it rockets again.  Thanks 

I think November hard fork will be much more serious than BCC split and upcoming split will result in huge loss in bitcoin's value. There will be more than a correction wave, it will be a real market crash. Recovering this probably will take up to 6 months.

[BigBall]

Yea November is some kind of test for a bitcoin but it is better to buy bitcoin right now.To wait november is not good because in 2 months btc price can be increased really good and hard fork will not help you to buy bitcoin cheaper than now ,you will more lose then win if you buy in november and if you want you can sell your btc before november and buy it again when it is cheap and then price will go up and again you can sell it if you guess right time and again buy it when price go little down.

[deisik]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

EDIT:  Guys i guess there is some confusion here about my question. I am not questioning the Long Term Value of Bitcoin. My Question here is that how much price can dip this time before it rockets again.  Thanks  

I think November hard fork will be much more serious than BCC split and upcoming split will result in huge loss in bitcoin's value. There will be more than a correction wave, it will be a real market crash. Recovering this probably will take up to 6 months

You are spreading doom and gloom



One major pool (F2Pool, if I'm not mistaken) has already revoked their signature from the NY agreement, and likely more pools will follow it in a short while. The effect would be that the second part of the SegWit2x deal won't come to fruition, and thus there will be no hard fork nor Bitcoin split in November. Obviously, Bitcoin2x has no advantage before Bitcoin Cash, which could be loosely dubbed Bitcoin8x, and thus there is no more ground for the existence of the NY agreement. Miners that want bigger blocks can switch to using Bitcoin Cash now instead of waiting till November (if they really want bigger blocks)

[Howell]

The split on August 1 took the exchange rate of Bitcoin from $1,800 per coin to $4,500 per coin. And I am sure that the fork on November will take this from $4,500 to $10,000. I am optimistic about the rates.

If the hard fork takes place,which is unlikely, we are going to have two networks that dividing everything bitcoin presently has and that would include the capitalization and current value. At that the strength for price to that high would have being drained and we shall be having to wait for sometime for whichever is the dominant to gather its momentum before those high prices becomes achievable again.

[DooMAD]

The pragmatist in me suspects that most people may be far less focused on the politics of the matter than we are and just want to use whatever is most convenient.  It's natural that people will want to use the chain that strikes the best balance between bug-free software (where we have both known and unknown quantities), economic support (that's both users and all the merchants/vendors/businesses/exchanges/etc) and being both secure and convenient to transact on (meaning strong support of both non-mining full nodes and miners).  The tricky part is, no one knows for sure which chain that will be yet (but everyone seemingly has their opinion).  I'm happy just to wait and see how it unfolds and just go with the flow.  Hodl and such.

[deisik]

The split on August 1 took the exchange rate of Bitcoin from $1,800 per coin to $4,500 per coin. And I am sure that the fork on November will take this from $4,500 to $10,000. I am optimistic about the rates.

If the hard fork takes place,which is unlikely, we are going to have two networks that dividing everything bitcoin presently has and that would include the capitalization and current value. At that the strength for price to that high would have being drained and we shall be having to wait for sometime for whichever is the dominant to gather its momentum before those high prices becomes achievable again

It is really hard to tell what will happen

It is even no less hard to tell what will happen if the fork doesn't happen at all. The price could surge just like it could plunge, the usual bunch, the usual place. If anything, how many people could really envisage that miners would be flip-flopping between mining the regular Bitcoin and the alternative one (Bitcoin Cash) before the August split actually happened and Bitcoin Cash came about with its potential of manipulating the mining difficulty?

[ged00u]

I think it is. After the hard fork in November, almost everything will be backed to normal and Bitcoin can easily work without any threats about the block size and the confirmation time. And if Bitcoin is still slow and can not maintain the huge number of people using it, it will be replaced, or become a digital gold, not a digital currency anymore

[deisik]

I think it is. After the hard fork in November, almost everything will be backed to normal and Bitcoin can easily work without any threats about the block size and the confirmation time. And if Bitcoin is still slow and can not maintain the huge number of people using it, it will be replaced, or become a digital gold, not a digital currency anymore

It has stopped being a digital currency since circa 2011

Before that Bitcoin had been actually used as a digital currency in black markets, i.e. as a means of payment. After that, in 2012, it quickly turned into a mostly speculative asset. In this way, the majority of people are using it for the sake of profiteering, and thus they don't particularly care about the block size and confirmation times since they rarely move their bitcoins around. And Bitcoin cannot possibly become a digital version of gold. Those who claim otherwise just don't really know what gold is actually about. It is certainly not about profits (unlike Bitcoin)

[MrCrank]

Don't worry about fluctuation.
It's like 1 August.
No need wait.. I think need buy bitcoin today.
Price will be rise again

[newguy05]

It's in a upward trand, will continue to rise again after Nov. hard fork.
There will be no split on bitcoin/BCC so the effect should be much lower than Aug.
 

[naidray]

It's in a upward trand, will continue to rise again after Nov. hard fork.
There will be no split on bitcoin/BCC so the effect should be much lower than Aug.

May be possible that there will be some fluctuation in bitcoin in the month of November, but I think it will not affect the buying and selling process of bitcoin, because as I have experienced from 2009 till date, there are a lot of changes and fluctuations in bitcoin have occurred but you see the prices and acceptance of bitcoin all over the world. the people have welcomed bitcoin and the same will be continue after November.

[Pleione527]

If many says November will become a test again for bitcoin I think its really possible to happen in fact even not in November bitcoin can suddenly drop anytime because there is no assurance for bitcoin its unpredictable as we all know but if it will drop in November lower than what we experience last july I think we should take it positively for an opportunity for investment and a chance to have a good earning

[nkarm1]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

EDIT:  Guys i guess there is some confusion here about my question. I am not questioning the Long Term Value of Bitcoin. My Question here is that how much price can dip this time before it rockets again.  Thanks 

This event is not that warm enough right now, so you could still buy and make some profits before it comes. Two months is still a long run for us and you could really play with the price within this month and October. so taking chances right now is not a bad idea and don't wait for the November fork to passed by. You are skipping 2 months of profits and excitement and this is not good for your health.  .

Kidding asside, with the events right now many players are surfing with this wave and you'll never wanna see yourself just watching it. Next, if you can really wait, wait until the November FUD, that might make all the weak hands free their coins  so the price will absolutely dip ( maybe not below 4k assuming that we had really surpassed the fud created by bans at present. Note that don't wait for the lowest lower dip after the fork, you might miss chances. Like those people after the most recent fork happend this mid year.

[maman09]

see from the final slope of this end from the impact of China's ban. november nice to buy.
I believe the month of December bitcoin will be pumped until the new year.

[nl247]

I do not really think there would be anything serious like a huge dip even in November. What could be worse than the great FUD caused by the August fork but that even got bitcoin greater support than one would have imagined. That was a huge test if I must say.

[N@p$t3r]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

EDIT:  Guys i guess there is some confusion here about my question. I am not questioning the Long Term Value of Bitcoin. My Question here is that how much price can dip this time before it rockets again.  Thanks  

You may wait for the price to hit $800... if you don't see $800 then that means you should not buy at all. jajaja! Sorry gringo, I am just goofing around. Honestly, these kinds of questions annoy me very bad. You already did your research about segwit dos x on your own but you weren't enthusiast enough to make your research about the price?

One more thing gringo, we are at $4,300 today and we still do not see how the price would go on October, so how the hell are we going to answer "My Question here is that how much price can dip this time before it rockets again.  Thanks  "
I really hate skeptic people specially when it comes to bitcoin. most of all with those who say "Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research blah blah blah"

Keep in mind, we survived August 1... yet you still didn't invest.

[1991runner]

Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research i found that some experts are suggesting that we can see more fluctuation in the month of November as Bitcoin can have another hardfork somewhere around in Novemeber when Block 494,784 gets mined. Segwit2x Team plans to enable the Bitcoin's miners to run new software at block 494,784 and if its enacted it can create another hardofork for Bitcoin. So what does this means for us investors , worst fluctuation that we saw in the month of July or the prices will only fall to the current level ?

Let me know your thoughts.

EDIT:  Guys i guess there is some confusion here about my question. I am not questioning the Long Term Value of Bitcoin. My Question here is that how much price can dip this time before it rockets again.  Thanks  

You may wait for the price to hit $800... if you don't see $800 then that means you should not buy at all. jajaja! Sorry gringo, I am just goofing around. Honestly, these kinds of questions annoy me very bad. You already did your research about segwit dos x on your own but you weren't enthusiast enough to make your research about the price?

One more thing gringo, we are at $4,300 today and we still do not see how the price would go on October, so how the hell are we going to answer "My Question here is that how much price can dip this time before it rockets again.  Thanks  "
I really hate skeptic people specially when it comes to bitcoin. most of all with those who say "Hello Guys , i am planning to invest in Bitcoin but after doing some research blah blah blah"

Keep in mind, we survived August 1... yet you still didn't invest.

thanks for your pissed off opinion. As i have said in my post i am right now preparing my funds to invest other than that i am not skeptical but being realistic even if it goes up good for me because i really want it to go higher and even if it lowers i will pounce on that opportunity too.

[MaryCris]

What I know is on November 10, 2017 at 12PM GMT, the Propthereum ICO crowdsale will run off a decentralized Smart Contract that runs on the Ethereum Blockchain. It is secured with a 256-bit encryption which makes it secure and reliable. Propthereum Tokens will be minted as PTCs. These coins are a digital representation tracking the funding of their ICO and crowdsale. They are divisible units and are designed to have eight decimal digits. The minimum buy which can be represented in the compliant wallets, as mentioned below, is 0.00000001 PTCs.