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August 31, 2017, 01:52:02 PM |
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Hi, I have a question as developer of the Bitcoin Seismograph ( http://www.bitcoinseismograph.com). The tool has identified a high Bitcoin volatility (above 25% for 60 days) due to recent price rises! So my question is, if you see that as a warning sign or just normal behavior of Bitcoin. At which volatility level would you be concerned? The Bitcoin Seismograph is intended to support Bitcoin community to monitor the Bitcoin ecosystem and identify unexpected developments earlier. It needs your feedback for finetuning the analysis algorithms. Thanks for your help, Marcel
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August 31, 2017, 02:21:34 PM |
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I am not sure, if I can agree to your second sentence ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) but, at which point would you be worried?
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August 31, 2017, 02:25:09 PM |
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The Bitcoin's price is always volatile and that's a known fact about it since its creation almost. There is no new thing here, just you need to deal with it. But in the near future, the price will (most likely) keep rising for a while.
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August 31, 2017, 02:32:20 PM |
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Hey,
thanks for your reply and interest. I agree, quite high volatility has been here and will be here, but from a personal standpoint I am a bit worried about the price rise as I do not understand the reason for that at the moment.
But back to the question: What would be indicators which would let your alarm bells ring?
Thanks for the help, Marcel
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August 31, 2017, 02:37:27 PM |
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Bitcoin, as well as other crypto currencies, doesn't depend on the local economy or some industry, like AUD or ZAR. The volatility cannot be easily predicted and you cannot build your forecast on the well-known factors. There is the general expectation that BTC will reach $25,000-50,000 in 2020-2022, but it is the estimated forecast without any exact evidence.
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August 31, 2017, 02:37:50 PM |
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The Bitcoin's price is always volatile and that's a known fact about it since its creation almost. There is no new thing here, just you need to deal with it. But in the near future, the price will (most likely) keep rising for a while.
I agree, this has been an ongoing debate for so long. Bitcoin's price had been volatile ever since so I don't know why people keep on asking about its volatility.
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August 31, 2017, 02:43:13 PM |
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The Bitcoin's price is always volatile and that's a known fact about it since its creation almost. There is no new thing here, just you need to deal with it. But in the near future, the price will (most likely) keep rising for a while.
I agree, this has been an ongoing debate for so long. Bitcoin's price had been volatile ever since so I don't know why people keep on asking about its volatility. Well, I have a lot of discussions with non-Bitcoin users (i.e. my PhD supervisor or research partners) and volatility is the number they look at (next to the price).
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August 31, 2017, 02:44:48 PM |
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The volatility is part of Bitcoin's history on free market. People seem to not care of volatility while the price increases, whether slowly or very quick. Same people may be quite concerned if the price decreases, especially if the happens over long periods of time. It may look strange, but much more than other assets, people really expect from Bitcoin to reach very high valuation. At least this is my guess.
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August 31, 2017, 02:58:27 PM |
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So, if volatility does not tell the story, is it transaction numbers or pool sizes (or network numbers in general) then?
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August 31, 2017, 03:02:59 PM |
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The high volatility in Bitcoin is caused by the uneven distribution of the coins in the early days. This give certain individuals {Whales} or even a group of them, the ability to manipulate the currency/commodity. They time their dumps and pumping to the tee to maximize their profits. This will continue, until more people buy bitcoins and the spread of coins are more equally distributed.
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August 31, 2017, 03:05:29 PM |
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no. but for now I will keep all my bitcoins. and expect no transaction using bitcoin abruptly. for now we better hold our bitcoin and wait for the right time with a more stable price and more conducive situation.
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August 31, 2017, 03:14:20 PM |
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no. but for now I will keep all my bitcoins. and expect no transaction using bitcoin abruptly. for now we better hold our bitcoin and wait for the right time with a more stable price and more conducive situation.
But how to determine when you reach some sort of a equilibrium?
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August 31, 2017, 03:15:46 PM |
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Hi, I have a question as developer of the Bitcoin Seismograph ( http://www.bitcoinseismograph.com). The tool has identified a high Bitcoin volatility (above 25% for 60 days) due to recent price rises! So my question is, if you see that as a warning sign or just normal behavior of Bitcoin. At which volatility level would you be concerned? The Bitcoin Seismograph is intended to support Bitcoin community to monitor the Bitcoin ecosystem and identify unexpected developments earlier. It needs your feedback for finetuning the analysis algorithms. Volatility can be a great concern for any other assets most especially the fiat money but as for Bitcoin it is not alarming at all...since volatility has been a permanent feature of this cryptocurrency for a long time now. Volatility can work both ways...and it can drive fear to someone and can be a magnet for another one...depending on how we understand it in light with Bitcoin. We have already accepted that volatility is becoming like the twin brother of Bitcoin. Now, the question is: Is there a correlation between volatility and the potential for Bitcoin to pop like a bubble? Or volatility is what makes Bitcoin really attractive to many Bitcoin enthusiasts?
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August 31, 2017, 03:23:09 PM |
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Hi, I have a question as developer of the Bitcoin Seismograph ( http://www.bitcoinseismograph.com). The tool has identified a high Bitcoin volatility (above 25% for 60 days) due to recent price rises! So my question is, if you see that as a warning sign or just normal behavior of Bitcoin. At which volatility level would you be concerned? The Bitcoin Seismograph is intended to support Bitcoin community to monitor the Bitcoin ecosystem and identify unexpected developments earlier. It needs your feedback for finetuning the analysis algorithms. Thanks for your help, Marcel I think that many people will be happy when the bitcoin price increases, so it will benefit them. But the fluctuations are quite unusual, causing many to argue about it. The bitcoin price suddenly rose too high and they were afraid it would collapse at any time...
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August 31, 2017, 03:24:17 PM |
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Noting is strange here. Bitcoin is created to be volatile. It depends only on law of supply and demand. More people wants to buy bitcoin more bitcoin is higher.
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August 31, 2017, 03:25:36 PM |
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Volatility of bitcoin has been an issue ever since I have known it (2015) and I think it will still be even after a few more years. I stopped worrying about it and took it as an opportunity. It will be like this for a few more years so better be used to it. I hope it gets more stable but I do not mind the volatility anymore.
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August 31, 2017, 03:28:56 PM |
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Yes I'm certainly worried about high Bitcoin price, several factors that pump Bitcoin price is due to North Korea launching missiles to Japan. I'm worried that if Bitcoin bubble burst then a lot of people would get hurt financially, get into debt, 0 life savings and etc.
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August 31, 2017, 03:29:40 PM |
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no. but for now I will keep all my bitcoins. and expect no transaction using bitcoin abruptly. for now we better hold our bitcoin and wait for the right time with a more stable price and more conducive situation.
Even I am thinking the same. Bitcoin's price has been increasing high enough for past few months and it would be better to hold the coins and sell it at a better price later. Its huge increase in price also gives me goosebumps as it is an indication of a fall in price soon. The more increase in price, the more chances for it to fall a little. But i strongly feel that it won't go fall any sooner. Its price is to cross $5000 which will make a huge impact on the society. There are chances that more people buy it once they get to know about it.
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August 31, 2017, 03:35:00 PM |
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no. but for now I will keep all my bitcoins. and expect no transaction using bitcoin abruptly. for now we better hold our bitcoin and wait for the right time with a more stable price and more conducive situation.
Even I am thinking the same. Bitcoin's price has been increasing high enough for past few months and it would be better to hold the coins and sell it at a better price later. Its huge increase in price also gives me goosebumps as it is an indication of a fall in price soon. The more increase in price, the more chances for it to fall a little. But i strongly feel that it won't go fall any sooner. Its price is to cross $5000 which will make a huge impact on the society. There are chances that more people buy it once they get to know about it. I agree, it definitely causes media attention, but the higher the price gets, the fewer people (or newbies) will think, now might be a good time to invest... Or am I wrong?
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August 31, 2017, 04:04:39 PM |
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What's new with volatility of Bitcoin? It's always been same. We have seen 50% drop many a time. 25% is still less. There is cut off period in July because of potential fork, buying activity decreased sharply and in August the same buying activity increased sharply as all the investors were waiting for August. Thus, volatility was inevitable. It was quite natural.
So I would rather say nice try to advertise your site.
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