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September 01, 2017, 09:12:11 AM
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They forked BTC and made BCC.  This means I had some BCC I never paid for, so I just put it in an exchange and brought some BTC with it.  Now, I only had 0.3 BTC but there must be with loads who have a darn sight more and who got a LOT of BCC for nothing.  This raises some questions.

  • Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
  • How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
  • What's to stop people forking again, just to make a killing like this?

Was BCC good or bad in this respect?

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September 01, 2017, 09:36:12 AM
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They forked BTC and made BCC.  This means I had some BCC I never paid for, so I just put it in an exchange and brought some BTC with it.  Now, I only had 0.3 BTC but there must be with loads who have a darn sight more and who got a LOT of BCC for nothing.  This raises some questions.

  • Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
  • How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
  • What's to stop people forking again, just to make a killing like this?

Was BCC good or bad in this respect?

for every seller, there is a buyer. every dollar spent buying bitcoin cash = a dollar less to buy bitcoin. if BTC supporters are dumping BCH, that means either BCH supporters are also dumping BTC or some investors are buying BCH instead of BTC. or both.

so, to answer your questions.... it's not good. what we are seeing now is market inefficiency. a lot of people will lose a lot of value (either BCH sellers or BCH buyers). for now, we need to wait and see how supply/demand plays out. you can look at exchange volumes for an idea of how much BCH was dumped, but there is a lot of churn to account for.

if it turns out that these kind of splits are damaging to the network effect and value of BTC, i think that will deter people from continually forking.

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September 01, 2017, 09:37:33 AM
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They forked BTC and made BCC.  This means I had some BCC I never paid for, so I just put it in an exchange and brought some BTC with it.  Now, I only had 0.3 BTC but there must be with loads who have a darn sight more and who got a LOT of BCC for nothing.  This raises some questions.

  • Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
  • How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
  • What's to stop people forking again, just to make a killing like this?

Was BCC good or bad in this respect?

BCH was fantastic, it was one of the biggest airdrops ever. Free money for everybody (who had bitcoin before the fork). I haven't sold mine yet but I will & I'll pump 50% back into bitcoin & spend the rest.

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September 01, 2017, 09:41:01 AM
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They forked BTC and made BCC.  This means I had some BCC I never paid for, so I just put it in an exchange and brought some BTC with it.  Now, I only had 0.3 BTC but there must be with loads who have a darn sight more and who got a LOT of BCC for nothing.  This raises some questions.

  • Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
  • How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
  • What's to stop people forking again, just to make a killing like this?

Was BCC good or bad in this respect?

Bitcoin is supposed to be gold 2.0. If Bitcoin cash will simply be created out of thin air and destroy Bitcoin. Then crypto is finished. even as very much like scam as fiat currency, except not regulated so the rich completely control the crypto market. Undecided

But..Let's just hope that Bitcoin forks again so that we'll get yet another free coin! Cheesy
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September 01, 2017, 09:46:02 AM
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  • Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
no it is not. but since this is not the first time an airdrop like this happened and nothing has happened so far, i can say the negative effects are not that big.

besides this is not the only time people get "loads of money out of nowhere". at the beginning of this year every single altcoin was pumped and each of them went up at least twice and some even went up 6000% and that is a lot of "money out of nowhere" for a lot of traders.

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  • How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
not that much actually.
many people never bothered to claim it. many don't even know about it, many don't know how! and many are holding it because they have small amount that is not worth selling or they think it can go up maybe!
the number of transactions shows there aren't really that many who are transferring their BCC to sell.

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Was BCC good or bad in this respect?
it is good because it proves that if people don't want something it will become a useless altcoin and if they want it then nothing can stop it from growing. we will see which one is true in the long term.

but it is bad because it is similar to bitcoin as far things like mining goes but yet different which makes things a bit complicated. for example BCC's fast difficulty change is creating a seesaw for miners to switch back and forth (theoretically) and it can cause issues. and we saw it once already.

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September 01, 2017, 09:55:04 AM
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They forked BTC and made BCC.  This means I had some BCC I never paid for, so I just put it in an exchange and brought some BTC with it.  Now, I only had 0.3 BTC but there must be with loads who have a darn sight more and who got a LOT of BCC for nothing.  This raises some questions.

  • Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
  • How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
  • What's to stop people forking again, just to make a killing like this?

Was BCC good or bad in this respect?


I would have sold already, if it wasn't for the fact that syncing Bitcoin ABC is such a pain in the ass. I have been trying to sync for days to no end, it seems to get stuck at the end of the process and it becomes really slow.

I would try ElectronCash but I don't consider it safe. I guess I will wait, maybe I catch a dead cat bounce.
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September 01, 2017, 10:04:27 AM
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Yeah I did the same thing. The people behind Bcash wanted control of Bitcoin, they wanted to be the stronger fork. Once they forked and got Bcash they still mine and operate mainly with Bitcoin, Bcash takes forever to complete blocks and miners are actually losing money mining Bcash.

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September 01, 2017, 10:09:45 AM
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The market movement for BCH is so huge to the extend that Blockchain decided to support BCH. Coinbase too went back on their word from not supporting to support (which naturally should be this case in my opinion) but only after next year. Forking is never good since it creates a lot of confusion especially when cryptocurrency is not mature yet in general.

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September 01, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
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They forked BTC and made BCC.  This means I had some BCC I never paid for, so I just put it in an exchange and brought some BTC with it.  Now, I only had 0.3 BTC but there must be with loads who have a darn sight more and who got a LOT of BCC for nothing.  This raises some questions.

  • Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
  • How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
  • What's to stop people forking again, just to make a killing like this?

Was BCC good or bad in this respect?

Bitcoin is supposed to be gold 2.0. If Bitcoin cash will simply be created out of thin air and destroy Bitcoin. Then crypto is finished. even as very much like scam as fiat currency, except not regulated so the rich completely control the crypto market. Undecided

But..Let's just hope that Bitcoin forks again so that we'll get yet another free coin! Cheesy
You're talking as if Bitcoin cash hasn't happened yet? Literally nothing happened to Bitcoin or crypto when it was created, I don't even see how it could have destroyed Bitcoin, like you mentioned.

These forks aren't exactly good for Bitcoin, but it doesn't seem to affect the price much either.

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September 01, 2017, 10:14:52 AM
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They forked BTC and made BCC.  This means I had some BCC I never paid for, so I just put it in an exchange and brought some BTC with it.  Now, I only had 0.3 BTC but there must be with loads who have a darn sight more and who got a LOT of BCC for nothing.  This raises some questions.

  • Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
  • How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
  • What's to stop people forking again, just to make a killing like this?

Was BCC good or bad in this respect?

You were smart enough to exchange it for Btc, I never took it cause it's a big filled coin, and I don't like it at all. There is nothing to stop people they may attempt to do so, what I have heard is Bitcoin gold is planning to do the same, but I don't think they will survive for long, cause Bitcoin is recovering back and they shall have majority of the hash I feel, all other morgul alts shall die.
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September 01, 2017, 10:26:26 AM
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They forked BTC and made BCC.  This means I had some BCC I never paid for, so I just put it in an exchange and brought some BTC with it.  Now, I only had 0.3 BTC but there must be with loads who have a darn sight more and who got a LOT of BCC for nothing.  This raises some questions.

  • Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
  • How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
  • What's to stop people forking again, just to make a killing like this?

Was BCC good or bad in this respect?

Bitcoin is supposed to be gold 2.0. If Bitcoin cash will simply be created out of thin air and destroy Bitcoin. Then crypto is finished. even as very much like scam as fiat currency, except not regulated so the rich completely control the crypto market. Undecided

But..Let's just hope that Bitcoin forks again so that we'll get yet another free coin! Cheesy

You said exactly what I was meant to say. Almost every country engages in the Fiat scam heaven did not fall. . Just like some are pretending like criminals don't use Fiat for crimes except Cryptocurrency. Just hope the shame isn't carried over to the Cryptocurrency World though.
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September 01, 2017, 10:31:02 AM
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They forked BTC and made BCC.  This means I had some BCC I never paid for, so I just put it in an exchange and brought some BTC with it.  Now, I only had 0.3 BTC but there must be with loads who have a darn sight more and who got a LOT of BCC for nothing.  This raises some questions.

  • Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
  • How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
  • What's to stop people forking again, just to make a killing like this?

Was BCC good or bad in this respect?

The market will continue to grow because that which you see as a big money that is paid to you is a form of investment to another person who is making it as a way to reap higher benefit. Money is always in the crypto economy because without that, the market will be deserted with nobody to practice in it. Nothing is stopping people from forking and another one is proposed to come in August and many more to come after that.
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September 01, 2017, 10:34:53 AM
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They forked BTC and made BCC.  This means I had some BCC I never paid for, so I just put it in an exchange and brought some BTC with it.  Now, I only had 0.3 BTC but there must be with loads who have a darn sight more and who got a LOT of BCC for nothing.  This raises some questions.

  • Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
  • How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
  • What's to stop people forking again, just to make a killing like this?

Was BCC good or bad in this respect?
It is just some people have different purpose and ideal so they can't agree with bitcoin, they choose to make a new one. If there's no demand then the new coin worth nothing. I don't know how much but i guess it's a lot. If this kind of forking want to stop, there will have to be a decision that every people agree, which is very unlikely.

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September 01, 2017, 11:32:00 AM
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I firmly believe that almost all of the airdrop BCH will end up as BTC in the long run.
We are seeing BTC climbing steadily while BCH had remained king of static with
even a little fall back.

I dont think its a good thing either to keep forking and yes there is another fork
scheduled for November I believe.

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September 01, 2017, 11:39:37 AM
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Money used to buy Cash coins isn't neccessarily coming from the one true Bitcoin. There is a lot of new money going into crypto currencies, and I suspect this is where the purchase price comes from.

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Truth isn't determined by popularity. Price doesn't reflect the righteous implementation, it is merely  a market based reality created by trader's current perceptions.
Bitcoin Cash should have been implemented without a fork retaining the BTC ticker but it was made impossible by obstructionists who favor limiting block size, increasing tax, and changing bitcoin from a currency to a settlement system.

The argument has been made and I agree that the core camp is putting the cart before the horse. They expect BTC to be a digital gold, a store of wealth, yet they betray the economic principles which allowed for its success. When I first got involved in 2011 with Bitcoin my mind was not set on holding Bitcoin in the hopes of ever increasing value but rather I was immensely impressed with the ability to send money quintessentially fee-less across the globe in a matter of ten minutes.

Until Segwit 2x is resolved in November this battle is not remotely close to being over, only after the outcome of segwit 2x is clear will the future of BCH vs BTC begin to be visible.

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BCC is Cool, I think it is pure satoshi.
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September 01, 2017, 12:05:03 PM
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Can it be good for the crypto economy if a load of money suddenly appears out of nowhere?
It didn't appear out of nowhere.  It appeared because people are willing to pay that much for the coins.  Of course for every buyer there has to be a seller.

It just means that right now, the market believes that BCH is worth about 0.12 BTC.
How much BCC immediately got converted back into BTC?
It's hard to tell, but when the split happened, BCH's volume with BTC was about 100-200 million dollars.  
What's to stop people forking again, just to make a killing like this?
Anyone can fork at any time.  The forked chain is only worth something if the market perceives it to be worth something.
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September 01, 2017, 12:09:22 PM
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Money used to buy Cash coins isn't neccessarily coming from the one true Bitcoin. There is a lot of new money going into crypto currencies, and I suspect this is where the purchase price comes from.

This. The market cap for bitcoin is now less than half the total market cap for all cryptocurrecies. Despite bitcoin's eye-catching rise, more money is flowing into alts than bitcoin. I believe it's because new investors think BTC is pricey, and are hoping for bigger percentage gains from alts.

 
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September 01, 2017, 12:11:41 PM
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I sold my BCC too and realized that since BCC came from BTC then I don't really have much to say anything bad against this coin, it's free money and as they all say profit is profit. But I don't think this coin will go much far because people would still use BTC instead of BCC; just my thoughts though based on how many people sold their BCC once they got it for free.

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