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September 02, 2017, 05:55:28 PM
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All kind time of day. In General interested in the opinions of others.
Briefly about the profitability and rules.
1- One account, one attachment (duplicates are not allowed)
2- The minimum investment is 50 dollars (or 0.01 bitcoins), the maximum investment is 5000 dollars (or 1 bitcoin)
3- Every month on the 31st of the month there is an accrual of between 12 and 15 percent. The accrual is made manually not on the internal account of the site, but on the purse from which the deposit (portfolio) was replenished. Without any possibility of re-investment.
4- In a year the net profit will be 144-180 percent of the initial deposit.
5- Transfers and deposits will be made through the WebMoney system to secure your deposits. (all the data about us will be available to you). We will prove to you that we are not a high-tech project, namely people who work in the market for more than one year.
6- It is possible to withdraw your contribution. For avoidance of 30 days after contacting the support service, the deposit will be returned to you in full.
7- Will start at the beginning of the beta version for 3 months for testing. In this period of time we will admit only 10 people with the possibility of contribution. During this period, we will test our and your income for further work.
8- All reports on trade will be described and provided on our website.
9- In case of not profitable trade within a month, we have a cold bill to pay your interest. Which will be equal to your contributions.
10- After the official opening, another 20 people will be admitted with the possibility of investment. After a month of stable work, we will open the entrance of another 40 people. After the second month of stable operation, the entrance for all will be opened.
11- The project is still in the development stage. Beta version will be opened on 1.11.17
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September 02, 2017, 06:55:23 PM
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At the moment we are in the development stage. To join you in the winter. Now we want to understand how much will be offer to others. The main problem that we now think is how to protect the deposits of people and to assure them that, who will not be deceived.
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September 02, 2017, 08:17:40 PM
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Plan to give 12-15% in the month to output the initial contribution period of one month. The year is 180% pure.

HUGE experience, but you don't know how to calculate interest?   Roll Eyes

15% a month is 435% a year
, not 180%.

Unsustainable.  Ponzi.

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September 02, 2017, 09:01:58 PM
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I think that the calculation of the interest, we are fine. 15 12 equals 180. Where did you get 435%? Every month we pay a percentage (12-15), depending on the profitability of our trades. If the month will be more successful then the percentage will be higher. If we bear the loss percentage does not fall below 12. If you want after the first month (for example) to take a Deposit by close of entries will be fully refunded. The maximum waiting time not exceeding 30 days. If we did not close a trading position then starting the countdown from 20 to 30 days the Deposit will be paid with the cold account along with the interest rate 15. More detailed information will be available when will a beta version. Start possible 1.11.2017. I think the information was presented clearly and you have understood.
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September 02, 2017, 09:10:29 PM
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This theme is created for your corrections and suggestions! Requested to Express its views on the project. All the questions and criticism you will reply tomorrow in the evening. Thank you for understanding!
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September 02, 2017, 09:49:00 PM
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I think that the calculation of the interest, we are fine. 15 12 equals 180. Where did you get 435%?

Compound interest, fool.

You are clearly a scammer, since you claim to have "huge" experience, but don't know the basics about money.

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HUGE experience, but you don't know how to calculate interest?   Roll Eyes

15% a month is 435% a year
, not 180%.

Unsustainable.  Ponzi.

I love the pure unadulterated no-nonsense analysis. The rare and few here do good work dissecting the numbers and weeding out the undesirables.

Those are unsustainable figures indeed. You would need more and more injected funds to compensate older investors with promised returns of 435% which is a staggeringly high rate of return. Finding future backers to keep the scheme afloat would be the only way to sustain this operation and this essentially fulfills the definition of Vod's conclusion above.

 

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September 03, 2017, 07:51:40 AM
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I think that the calculation of the interest, we are fine. 15 12 equals 180. Where did you get 435%?

Compound interest, fool.

You are clearly a scammer, since you claim to have "huge" experience, but don't know the basics about money.

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seems very confusing
how about trading can be sure to give 12% -15% per month, while we know its flutuaktif trading very high level of risk
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September 03, 2017, 09:50:04 AM
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To be honest, your project doesn't look good. The ROI you are offering seems too high to be taken seriously. In fact, it makes me think you are planing to run a pure HYIP under cover. It would be nice if you give some details about the methods used.If your traders are so successful they wouldn't need to open such project.

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September 03, 2017, 10:04:06 AM
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Absolutely Ponzi model... stay away mates!
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September 03, 2017, 11:54:02 AM
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All kind time of day. In General interested in the opinions of others. We have a promising team of traders with a huge experience in the market. We came up with the idea to launch a project in which everyone can get good percentage in the month of its contribution. We work only with the dollar as it traded them. Plan to give 12-15% in the month to output the initial contribution period of one month. The year is 180% pure. Interested in your opinion and maybe suggestions on the best conditions. Very interested in your opinion. Criticism is welcome.
The project want to run in the winter, the first 3 months in test mode, and then in the official.
In General, waiting for comments. Thank you!


What kind of project? All you said about :
- experienced traders team
- only with dollar
- 12-15% interest, 180% a year
- run in winter

So, it should be trading project, right? And you will ask people a.k.a investors to give you money and will get 12-15% interest every month?
I would like to see your site, faq, traders teams (whoever they are), you need to provide legit evidence about trading profits as well.
Since you only trade dollars, makes me wonder what kind of project it is? Not about cryptocurrency?
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September 03, 2017, 02:32:39 PM
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I mean if your team is so good and you can offer 15% per month, just take out a loan and become rich. I mean it does come up to 435% yearly not 180% since:

1) $100 * 15% = $115
2) $115 * 15% = $132.25
3) $132.25 * 15% = $152
4) $152 * 15% = $175
5) $175 * 15% = $201
6) $201 * 15% = $231
7) $231 * 15% = $266
Cool $266 * 15% = $305
9) $305 * 15% = $351
10) $351 * 15% = $404
11) $404 * 15% = $465
12) $406 * 15% = $535

with $100 invested and reinvesting the profit we get $535 which is absurd amount.

My call is scam or otherwise they would just all get personal loans and become millionaires
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September 03, 2017, 08:31:07 PM
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Good day! Thank you to all who left your opinion. Now I understand why you think such a huge percentage. Now change the text in the first post. I did not write all the information.
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September 03, 2017, 10:00:06 PM
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All kind time of day. In General interested in the opinions of others.
Briefly about the profitability and rules.
1- One account, one attachment (duplicates are not allowed)
What is this attachment?


2- The minimum investment is 50 dollars (or 0.01 bitcoins), the maximum investment is 5000 dollars (or 1 bitcoin)
Investment for what exactly?


3- Every month on the 31st of the month there is an accrual of between 12 and 15 percent. The accrual is made manually not on the internal account of the site, but on the purse from which the deposit (portfolio) was replenished. Without any possibility of re-investment.
How does this accrual occur in the first place, you add it manually or automated it?


4- In a year the net profit will be 144-180 percent of the initial deposit.
Profit from what? Selling shadows or bottled sunshine?


5- Transfers and deposits will be made through the WebMoney system to secure your deposits. (all the data about us will be available to you). We will prove to you that we are not a high-tech project, namely people who work in the market for more than one year.
How does transfer and deposit through WebMoney mean the deposits are secured?


6- It is possible to withdraw your contribution. For avoidance of 30 days after contacting the support service, the deposit will be returned to you in full.
What makes us to believe that you will return at all?


7- Will start at the beginning of the beta version for 3 months for testing. In this period of time we will admit only 10 people with the possibility of contribution. During this period, we will test our and your income for further work.
So you are all big mouths for something which is not proven and want the money of investors to test for further work!


8- All reports on trade will be described and provided on our website.
How do one know what information you provide in the website is authentic?


9- In case of not profitable trade within a month, we have a cold bill to pay your interest. Which will be equal to your contributions.
If you really have the money to pay back the investors the full money, why don't you start the project with that money?


10- After the official opening, another 20 people will be admitted with the possibility of investment. After a month of stable work, we will open the entrance of another 40 people. After the second month of stable operation, the entrance for all will be opened.
First tell us why will anyone be interested to join you with just vague theories without any base or facts?


11- The project is still in the development stage. Beta version will be opened on 1.11.17
"We are waiting for criticism in our direction." Thank you!!!
You look like to be high on weeds, You look like to be an idiot thinking everyone is a fool. Funk You!!!
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September 03, 2017, 10:26:47 PM
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9- In case of not profitable trade within a month, we have a cold bill to pay your interest. Which will be equal to your contributions.
If you really have the money to pay back the investors the full money, why don't you start the project with that money?

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I think it's clear to everyone now that the OP has no clue about money, and is just scamming.


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September 04, 2017, 12:17:23 AM
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It reads like "We're planning to make all of this money, and after you give us yours we'll tell you how."

 Huh

It's odd people even pull that here.

I love this place.
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September 04, 2017, 05:40:49 AM
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I think that the calculation of the interest, we are fine. 15 12 equals 180. Where did you get 435%? Every month we pay a percentage (12-15), depending on the profitability of our trades. If the month will be more successful then the percentage will be higher. If we bear the loss percentage does not fall below 12. If you want after the first month (for example) to take a Deposit by close of entries will be fully refunded. The maximum waiting time not exceeding 30 days. If we did not close a trading position then starting the countdown from 20 to 30 days the Deposit will be paid with the cold account along with the interest rate 15. More detailed information will be available when will a beta version. Start possible 1.11.2017. I think the information was presented clearly and you have understood.
for those who don't know: 15% a month, then the annual interest should be [(1+0.15)^12]*100-100 ~ 435(%)
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