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September 04, 2017, 06:58:15 AM
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Citizens of Europe and the U.S. have been 'liberated' from traditions, moral values and higher ideals to become hedonists and addicts. Why?

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The mass acceptance of Freud's thought has done a lot of damage. It has led people to think of sexual desire in terms of sexual need. Notice a sexual desire can be controlled, but a sexual need is a need.. like food and shelter etc.

Freud burrowed down below the conscious person, what he termed the Ego, to uncover what he called the Id. the Id was our natural self, and the ego was just our conflict between that natural self and society, which he in turn called the super-ego. Following Marx, Freud thought that all morality and culture was arbitrary, and further, that it represented the control and repression of our natural instincts. Now think of Freud's ideas infecting the rest of the planet.

I think there is an element of truth in Freud [the repression of sex that came with Protestant and puritan countries], but the problem comes when it is itself elevated in an ideology. Today people think it is their right to act on their sexual impulses. they see this as more fundamental [more real] than the moral constraints which would otherwise hold them back.

We think of ourselves as liberated today, and part of that liberation is our sexuality. At the public and intellectual levels of life, the official line is we should all be out and proud about our sexuality in order to live a happy and fulfilling life. This orthodoxy will only begin to be questioned in a generation's time when the wheels start to fall off.

So what promotes pornography?
Pseudo-science - the real you is the biological one.
Economics - It's great for the market and consumption...sex sells.
Politics - No better way to control a population than dumb it down and get it addicted.
Human nature - concupisence

Why is today society a sex culture???

What do you think?
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September 04, 2017, 08:40:49 AM
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I believe that now there is a lot of debauchery in the world that leads to different diseases. Even a condom does not always protect against this. People need to think with their heads before they have sex, and not be like an animal.

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September 04, 2017, 01:47:24 PM
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Sex sells and in a capitalist society, selling is how things work. I have no problem with people sleeping around. It is their life. If they were responsible enough, then they'd spare future sexual partners STIs. If not, then they'll suffer eventually.

Rather have people freely having sex than them going around raping others. Just look at repressive countries, the locals usually end up targeting migrant workers to bust their load... And those societies are not even "liberated" as the US and Europe. Our country send plenty of workers abroad. Years ago one got abducted while waiting for a taxi. And he's a guy. He was found days later in the desert (where abuse victims are often dumped to die), unconscious, badly beaten and raped.
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September 04, 2017, 02:43:55 PM
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I believe that now there is a lot of debauchery in the world that leads to different diseases. Even a condom does not always protect against this. People need to think with their heads before they have sex, and not be like an animal.
Sex has been important since the beginning of the world, sex shouldn't be vilified at all because everyone is having it. People in the bible times were taking three and more wives and even had concubines on the side,God really doesn't have anything against sex except when it's an adulterous relationship. Care must be taken so that one does not contract any dangerous disease which abounds in the world now.

 
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September 04, 2017, 03:15:15 PM
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I think sex education is important for young people so there is no transmission of diseases like aids and abortion. because many countries such as Asian countries are abortion due to a lack of understanding about sex education

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September 04, 2017, 03:56:51 PM
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Citizens of Europe and the U.S. have been 'liberated' from traditions, moral values and higher ideals to become hedonists and addicts. Why?

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The mass acceptance of Freud's thought has done a lot of damage. It has led people to think of sexual desire in terms of sexual need. Notice a sexual desire can be controlled, but a sexual need is a need.. like food and shelter etc.

Freud burrowed down below the conscious person, what he termed the Ego, to uncover what he called the Id. the Id was our natural self, and the ego was just our conflict between that natural self and society, which he in turn called the super-ego. Following Marx, Freud thought that all morality and culture was arbitrary, and further, that it represented the control and repression of our natural instincts. Now think of Freud's ideas infecting the rest of the planet.

I think there is an element of truth in Freud [the repression of sex that came with Protestant and puritan countries], but the problem comes when it is itself elevated in an ideology. Today people think it is their right to act on their sexual impulses. they see this as more fundamental [more real] than the moral constraints which would otherwise hold them back.

We think of ourselves as liberated today, and part of that liberation is our sexuality. At the public and intellectual levels of life, the official line is we should all be out and proud about our sexuality in order to live a happy and fulfilling life. This orthodoxy will only begin to be questioned in a generation's time when the wheels start to fall off.

So what promotes pornography?
Pseudo-science - the real you is the biological one.
Economics - It's great for the market and consumption...sex sells.
Politics - No better way to control a population than dumb it down and get it addicted.
Human nature - concupisence

Why is today society a sex culture???

What do you think?

It's very complex issue and you can't explain it with Freud only, or psychology or science.
If you research different sources, you will find out that society have sexual problem since the very beginning, from first human ancestors.
So, it's not problem of modern world but very ''old'' problem from ancient history.
Bible gave very interesting insight in this issue.
Do you remember story about Adam and Eve?
They was first human ancestors, lived in the garden of evil, and, as book of Genesis said, was naked but didn't feel any shame.
The first consequence of sin, when they ate the fruit, was a sense of shame because they were naked and they covered their sexual parts.
Very interesting, isn't it?
Why they didn't cover their mouth or hands, because they ate the fruit with their mouth and hands?
Instead, they covered their sexual parts and felt the shame because they was naked.
Very interesting isn't it?
Don't you think that snake, in its shape, looks like a male sex organ?
Apple, the fruit that Adam and Eve have eaten, have the shape of heart (love), isn't it?
In Peter's book in the Bible, the sin of angels is very well explained.
It's sex, of course.
Sex is the biggest issue in human history, never resolved, root of all other problems, corruption, evil, hatred etc.
So, sexual problem exist since the beginning of human existence, even among angels, and, as you can see, still destroying human relationships and foundations of society until today.



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September 04, 2017, 04:59:12 PM
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Sex is the ultimate form of love. Without sex it won't be a happy earth. It would be an impotent one. That country you've mentioned are open minded country that I hope I live with. Freedom is a choice and they agreed to it.
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September 04, 2017, 05:27:37 PM
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I mean I think we have been repressed for so long sexually that now we are just gaining our freedom back. So if you look at anyone that has been in a repressive society/family as soon as they get some freedom (bc they never had it before) they go completely overboard and do way too much of whatever it was that was restricted to them.

SO I think we are just in the beginning of our sexual freedom which is why you see people being overly sexual and everything overly sexualized I think in future generations this will calm down and we will be back to our natural state of balance but this will take some time.
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September 04, 2017, 05:51:47 PM
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Citizens of Europe and the U.S. have been 'liberated' from traditions, moral values and higher ideals to become hedonists and addicts. Why?

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The mass acceptance of Freud's thought has done a lot of damage. It has led people to think of sexual desire in terms of sexual need. Notice a sexual desire can be controlled, but a sexual need is a need.. like food and shelter etc.

Freud burrowed down below the conscious person, what he termed the Ego, to uncover what he called the Id. the Id was our natural self, and the ego was just our conflict between that natural self and society, which he in turn called the super-ego. Following Marx, Freud thought that all morality and culture was arbitrary, and further, that it represented the control and repression of our natural instincts. Now think of Freud's ideas infecting the rest of the planet.

I think there is an element of truth in Freud [the repression of sex that came with Protestant and puritan countries], but the problem comes when it is itself elevated in an ideology. Today people think it is their right to act on their sexual impulses. they see this as more fundamental [more real] than the moral constraints which would otherwise hold them back.

We think of ourselves as liberated today, and part of that liberation is our sexuality. At the public and intellectual levels of life, the official line is we should all be out and proud about our sexuality in order to live a happy and fulfilling life. This orthodoxy will only begin to be questioned in a generation's time when the wheels start to fall off.

So what promotes pornography?
Pseudo-science - the real you is the biological one.
Economics - It's great for the market and consumption...sex sells.
Politics - No better way to control a population than dumb it down and get it addicted.
Human nature - concupisence

Why is today society a sex culture???

What do you think?

I think that with todays standard and the generation that we live in we are greatly confused by love and lust and it blurs the line of the sexual desire and a sexual need that has empowered youth to be needy of it or to have justification on having it. While it is true that sex has and would always be a need, it is needed because we need to procreate not to fuel ecstasy or euphoria or to use it as a justification on perversion that is what everyone should at least remember.
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September 04, 2017, 05:53:13 PM
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I believe that now there is a lot of debauchery in the world that leads to different diseases. Even a condom does not always protect against this. People need to think with their heads before they have sex, and not be like an animal.

Why "and not be like an animal"? I think animals treat "sex" better than us humans.  I think our specie is the only one who uses sex to oppress, violate, degrade our kind.  Animals only do it because they need to, it's their nature.  So, I believe it's unfair to the animals to think lowly of them when it comes to "sex".  Smiley
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September 04, 2017, 06:29:15 PM
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Each person chooses what will be his sex life, except for some countries with forced marriage. I believe that now there is a lot of debauchery and lust that leads to many mental or physical illnesses and violence. Abstinence is not really dangerous if there is no permanent partner, and sometimes it is even useful to not lose vital energy. Because of the many available bare bodies, people lose control of themselves and become fixated on sex.

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September 04, 2017, 07:53:37 PM
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Sex offers and in an industrialist society, offering is the manner by which things work. I have no issue with individuals dozing around. It is their life. On the off chance that they were sufficiently mindful, at that point they'd save future sexual accomplices STIs. If not, at that point they'll endure inevitably. Maybe have individuals uninhibitedly having intercourse than them circumventing assaulting others. Simply take a gander at harsh nations, local people for the most part wind up focusing on transient specialists to bust their heap... Furthermore, those social orders are not in any case "freed" as the US and Europe. Our nation send a lot of laborers to another country. A long time back one got stole while sitting tight for a taxi. Also, he's a person. He was discovered days after the fact in the betray (where mishandle casualties are frequently dumped to kick the bucket), oblivious, severely beaten and assaulted.
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September 04, 2017, 08:25:09 PM
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People have been fuckin for a long time obviously. At least people these days have a choice on who get to nail them or who they marry. You may look back at days of yore to the time when women are chattel and slavery is legal but it's never coming back.

People who tend to complain about this are usually those who ain't getting any. No offense, I'm not assuming you are one of them.
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today sex for men it is so simple how to eat
the worst what it is getting to be normal for women Sad
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September 05, 2017, 06:18:37 AM
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Basically, society shames you for having sex and society shames you for not having sex.
Not only is this toxic but it's pretty stupid.
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Citizens of Europe and the U.S. have been 'liberated' from traditions, moral values and higher ideals to become hedonists and addicts. Why?

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The mass acceptance of Freud's thought has done a lot of damage. It has led people to think of sexual desire in terms of sexual need. Notice a sexual desire can be controlled, but a sexual need is a need.. like food and shelter etc.

Freud burrowed down below the conscious person, what he termed the Ego, to uncover what he called the Id. the Id was our natural self, and the ego was just our conflict between that natural self and society, which he in turn called the super-ego. Following Marx, Freud thought that all morality and culture was arbitrary, and further, that it represented the control and repression of our natural instincts. Now think of Freud's ideas infecting the rest of the planet.

I think there is an element of truth in Freud [the repression of sex that came with Protestant and puritan countries], but the problem comes when it is itself elevated in an ideology. Today people think it is their right to act on their sexual impulses. they see this as more fundamental [more real] than the moral constraints which would otherwise hold them back.

We think of ourselves as liberated today, and part of that liberation is our sexuality. At the public and intellectual levels of life, the official line is we should all be out and proud about our sexuality in order to live a happy and fulfilling life. This orthodoxy will only begin to be questioned in a generation's time when the wheels start to fall off.

So what promotes pornography?
Pseudo-science - the real you is the biological one.
Economics - It's great for the market and consumption...sex sells.
Politics - No better way to control a population than dumb it down and get it addicted.
Human nature - concupisence

Why is today society a sex culture???

What do you think?


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Depending on the personality of yourself. But, if this is the case in my country Indonesia has probably been very devastated now
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September 05, 2017, 08:37:56 AM
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In modern society, people completely forgot about spiritual development and began to engage in all sorts of perverted types of sex that sometimes can be dangerous to health. I believe that you do not need to make sexual videos available and you need to balance the balance between sex and abstinence.

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September 05, 2017, 01:53:39 PM
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It's fine whatever they do as long as they don't spread diseases around, it doesn't involve children or animals, and that there is no crime committed. It's their personal choice whether they want to have as much sex as they want AND can have.
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September 05, 2017, 03:57:21 PM
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Rich countries tend to do more sex since they're educated in sex rather than in poor countries. Since poor countries can't fund to have sex education making them conservative about their sex life.
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