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September 04, 2017, 04:59:47 PM
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hello there, i just got red feedback for no reason. and from now i can't have a deal on the forum.
how this happen: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2145204.0
i asked if my minexcoin ( just part of what i have) could be a collateral for 0.055btc loan.
i got an answer - no. (not listed on exchange yet)
so i said that i already listed those coins for sale ,if it's not a valid collateral i wouldn't get a loan anyway.
then i got red marked.
i have never requested for a loan, i just a asked if my alts are valid collateral, just that.
please someone read the reference topic in my negative feedback and tell me what to do, i havent done anything wrong. mostly i was active on technical support thread.
i wasnt lying or trying to cheat.
i even signed a message with my mnx wallet:
signature: H1t+TX8xXI2uODzZJSymXw1olMPyWtGnYE1dJ+Yej63sbf1gN5mrYn2Aa+bod5q63V2aeLWthZE5Dt3ZPbdPL9M=
wallet: XXiQmKtqCuJUznF4mRTRRqd9R6GKdysqdR
is that fair?

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September 04, 2017, 06:47:14 PM
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Vod unfortunately is incapable of thinking for himself. You will need to get some people in the default trust network to agree his feedback is invalid and he will promptly remove his rating.

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September 04, 2017, 06:53:02 PM
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It appears you lied. You posted in the Lending section and it appears you were asking for a loan using collateral you have up for sale.
Only Vod can remove it, I suggest closing this thread and ask via PM what can be done.
If you still want to trade you can either use escrow or make a new account.



we are talking about collateral. not a loan request.
and these coins are worth more than 0.05BTC
i got the coins from ico.
only members of bitcointalk can have altcoins?
or new members cant have assets or trade it?
i am not nerve, i just want bitcoin instead of mnx. already listed it for sale at 0.112 btc

So why you post at Lending section?
Why you get some coins from an ICO and you want to sell them now? Don't you read their ANN or you can't?
If you want BTC instead MNX then why you buy them?

Being serious and honest, is kind difficult for you as i see...


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September 04, 2017, 07:27:40 PM
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It appears you lied. You posted in the Lending section and it appears you were asking for a loan using collateral you have up for sale.
Only Vod can remove it, I suggest closing this thread and ask via PM what can be done.
If you still want to trade you can either use escrow or make a new account.



we are talking about collateral. not a loan request.
and these coins are worth more than 0.05BTC
i got the coins from ico.
only members of bitcointalk can have altcoins?
or new members cant have assets or trade it?
i am not nerve, i just want bitcoin instead of mnx. already listed it for sale at 0.112 btc

So why you post at Lending section?
Why you get some coins from an ICO and you want to sell them now? Don't you read their ANN or you can't?
If you want BTC instead MNX then why you buy them?

Being serious and honest, is kind difficult for you as i see...


i had 382.787 mnx when asked if its whalid collateral.
in this lending section i was speaking about 110mnx. so who can say that i cant sell the rest whats left?
what are you talking?
is this strickt market or what?
my coins. i do what ever i want.
well it was. i sold them for hero member a minute ago. so there is some people who still trust me.

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September 04, 2017, 07:29:52 PM
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It appears you lied. You posted in the Lending section and it appears you were asking for a loan using collateral you have up for sale.
Only Vod can remove it, I suggest closing this thread and ask via PM what can be done.
If you still want to trade you can either use escrow or make a new account.



we are talking about collateral. not a loan request.
and these coins are worth more than 0.05BTC
i got the coins from ico.
only members of bitcointalk can have altcoins?
or new members cant have assets or trade it?
i am not nerve, i just want bitcoin instead of mnx. already listed it for sale at 0.112 btc

So why you post at Lending section?
Why you get some coins from an ICO and you want to sell them now? Don't you read their ANN or you can't?
If you want BTC instead MNX then why you buy them?

Being serious and honest, is kind difficult for you as i see...


i had 382.787 mnx when asked if its whalid collateral.
in this lending section i was speaking about 110mnx. so who can say that i cant sell the rest whats left?
what are you talking?
is this strickt market or what?
my coins. i do what ever i want.
well it was. i sold them for hero member a minute ago. so there is some people who still trust me.

Stop acting like a small child and listen to the answers you were given. Your tantrum is not helping you.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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September 04, 2017, 07:34:03 PM
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It appears you lied. You posted in the Lending section and it appears you were asking for a loan using collateral you have up for sale.
Only Vod can remove it, I suggest closing this thread and ask via PM what can be done.
If you still want to trade you can either use escrow or make a new account.



we are talking about collateral. not a loan request.
and these coins are worth more than 0.05BTC
i got the coins from ico.
only members of bitcointalk can have altcoins?
or new members cant have assets or trade it?
i am not nerve, i just want bitcoin instead of mnx. already listed it for sale at 0.112 btc

So why you post at Lending section?
Why you get some coins from an ICO and you want to sell them now? Don't you read their ANN or you can't?
If you want BTC instead MNX then why you buy them?

Being serious and honest, is kind difficult for you as i see...


i had 382.787 mnx when asked if its whalid collateral.
in this lending section i was speaking about 110mnx. so who can say that i cant sell the rest whats left?
what are you talking?
is this strickt market or what?
my coins. i do what ever i want.
well it was. i sold them for hero member a minute ago. so there is some people who still trust me.

Stop acting like a small child and listen to the answers you were given. Your tantrum is not helping you.

probably i will start a new account, but Vods actions force honest people to multiaccounting.
i just did a trade worth 765$ and i need to leave the forum. how many newbies trade possitive with 750$ at the very first time? shame to kick me out

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September 04, 2017, 07:35:30 PM
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There is nothing wrong with his rating. I'd probably tag you as well, but it does not seem to be worth the effort.

probably i will start a new account, but Vods actions force honest people to multiaccounting.
Avoiding a rating with a new account -> permanent negatives on all new accounts created by you.


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September 04, 2017, 07:51:46 PM
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There is nothing wrong with his rating. I'd probably tag you as well, but it does not seem to be worth the effort.

probably i will start a new account, but Vods actions force honest people to multiaccounting.
Avoiding a rating with a new account -> permanent negatives on all new accounts created by you.
i just don't care anymore.
i haven't done anything wrong
you are just lazy to get in to situation.
bye

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September 04, 2017, 08:08:28 PM
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Good bye dear Codingggggggggggg Cheesy I guess you had your finger sticky on the g word on your keyboard when attempting to create your account Cheesy didn't you know that Vod does the exact same thing to everyone around here? he's getting paid by Satoshi (theymos) to do this in order to increase the registers on this forum Cheesy what matters for you to avoid doing something worthy of getting tagged, doesn't matter under which username you operate.


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September 04, 2017, 08:15:53 PM
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There is nothing wrong with his rating. I'd probably tag you as well, but it does not seem to be worth the effort.

probably i will start a new account, but Vods actions force honest people to multiaccounting.
Avoiding a rating with a new account -> permanent negatives on all new accounts created by you.
i just don't care anymore.
i haven't done anything wrong
you are just lazy to get in to situation.
bye
Ehh, you kinda did, but I think Vod's rating was probably somewhat too harsh.  You inquired about the loan, while at the same time trying to sell that collateral.  That's exactly what scammers do.

I saw your question as more of a theoretical one, as opposed to an actual loan request, but you have to understand how many scammers this forum has and how they behave.  Vod is fair, so perhaps you should take some time, build up your rep, and then ask him to remove it down the line.  Hopefully whoever you try to do business with will see why Vod left you that rating.  And honestly, even scammers don't have trouble doing business here.  It's not the end of the world.  Just don't do it again.

And then the OP left me feedback saying I scammed 1.2btc off of him.   Undecided

Complaining about something you do yourself, makes you a hypocrite. 
Yeah, that's definitely not cool.  I can't stand when people just flat out lie on trust pages.

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And then the OP left me feedback saying I scammed 1.2btc off of him.   Undecided

Complaining about something you do yourself, makes you a hypocrite. 


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September 04, 2017, 08:27:48 PM
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Imagine harsh is only way to get scammers to think about their actions, or slow them down to some extent. Glancing through the lending section as I figured out how to create my loan request, I came across a lot of garbage requests. Bitcoin has always attracted the quick buck and from what I have read Vod is doing a good job at policing the subforum.


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And then the OP left me feedback saying I scammed 1.2btc off of him.   Undecided
Where does it state that you scammed him or has he updated it in the meantime?

Complaining about something you do yourself, makes you a hypocrite. 
This just confirms your initial rating. OP can't be trusted.


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September 04, 2017, 08:58:31 PM
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Where does it state that you scammed him or has he updated it in the meantime?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2145204.msg21483623#msg21483623

He has changed it now to say 0.0

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I swear all the threads on reputation are just thread about false negative ratings or DT members trust abuse.

You posted on lending for a loan, with collateral that you were trying to sell anyways, which highly suggests that you would just default to the loan.

You've also admitted to account selling, which is also looked down upon.

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Where does it state that you scammed him or has he updated it in the meantime?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2145204.msg21483623#msg21483623
He has changed it now to say 0.0
I figured as much / wouldn't expect you to say something that did not happen. People who leave retaliatory fake negatives just confirm that the negative they have received (regardless of the reason) is warranted, i.e. that they are not trustworthy.

I swear all the threads on reputation are just thread about false negative ratings or DT members trust abuse.
It seems that people can't understand the basic concept: Behave according to the implied forum etiquette, and don't do anything shady and all those "false negative ratings" won't exist in the first place.


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September 05, 2017, 02:00:17 PM
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There is nothing wrong with his rating. I'd probably tag you as well, but it does not seem to be worth the effort.

probably i will start a new account, but Vods actions force honest people to multiaccounting.
Avoiding a rating with a new account -> permanent negatives on all new accounts created by you.

Says the scammer. Shut Up Luptin!!!! Halt dein Maul ja

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September 05, 2017, 02:15:27 PM
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Says the scammer. Shut Up Luptin!!!! Halt dein Maul ja
Are you mentally challenged? Claim 1: I'm a scammer. Claim 2: I am Lutpin? Evidence for either one? Zero. Then again we have these warning signs of your stupidity:

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3) Rating by dogie: "dogie   2015-09-19   0.00000000      Left me negative trust saying I'm Quickseller? Probably a troll."

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PolyCoin-Team
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September 06, 2017, 05:43:57 AM
 #19

Says the scammer. Shut Up Luptin!!!! Halt dein Maul ja
Are you mentally challenged? Claim 1: I'm a scammer. Claim 2: I am Lutpin? Evidence for either one? Zero. Then again we have these warning signs of your stupidity:

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Trust summary for PolyCoin-Team
This user recently woke up from a long period of inactivity.
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Trust: -2: -1 / +0
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!
3) Rating by dogie: "dogie   2015-09-19   0.00000000      Left me negative trust saying I'm Quickseller? Probably a troll."

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There is enough evidence that you are a scammer and blackmailer (check your negative trust).
Also many Claims with proof have been made that you really are Luptin.
We all know you are from Germany.

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September 06, 2017, 05:58:14 AM
 #20

There is nothing wrong with his rating. I'd probably tag you as well, but it does not seem to be worth the effort.

probably i will start a new account, but Vods actions force honest people to multiaccounting.
Avoiding a rating with a new account -> permanent negatives on all new accounts created by you.
i just don't care anymore.
i haven't done anything wrong
you are just lazy to get in to situation.
bye
Good job in getting one more person to leave the community. /s

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