nocta (OP)
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October 18, 2017, 04:30:53 PM |
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Everyday we've got a PMs and emails like "Hey, we can made a hype, just pay us some BTC". Guys, we dont need any artifical hype. We don't need huge funds to made a platform prototype and design a perfect UI. We have some budget, great team, and, definately, we have strongest motivation to make the revolution. Stay tuned, more updates soon.
sex was always a profitable bussines. i can't say if that goes well with the crypto world. devs look like pros. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) We start next year in Western Europe and Australia and will spread Nocta worldwide. We are not obsessed with cryptocurrencies and clearly realise that cash will be widely used on the market as payment for sex. But the platform itself will use only cryto for internal services. Internet started to change sexwork in late 90s, now it's time to global and decentralized service for and by self-organized people worldwide. No pimps, no government control.
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Hexcolyte
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October 19, 2017, 04:42:42 AM Last edit: October 19, 2017, 05:01:33 AM by Hexcolyte |
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I have some questions that I would like to be answered and explained, thank you.
What if there is a dispute? Who make sure both sides have received satisfied experience? In order to have a good reputation, one must start from 0 reputation, so how will it work if someone with 0 reputation has just started working/participating?
There is no details about your reputation system from whitepaper, could you provide us technological details about it? How difficult is it for someone to manipulate the ratings?
Also, there is a requirement to provide ID and recognizable face for moderation? Can you explain the details on this? Who will be the one in charge of this moderation, and how will a person's identity protected if they need to expose their privacy before participating? If the platform is going to check every participants, it wouldn't be as decentralized as it should, and there will be a point of failure where the platform failed to perform as they should.
How do you make sure a person with high rating is not another person? For example borrowed/bought account. Can anyone make sure that the "sexworkers" are protected physically and emotionally? What if it became a tool for criminal?
If your team doesn't require huge funds to make the platform success, I would suggest you to spend most of them in marketing.
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nocta (OP)
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October 19, 2017, 08:39:08 AM |
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I have some questions that I would like to be answered and explained, thank you.
What if there is a dispute? Who make sure both sides have received satisfied experience? In order to have a good reputation, one must start from 0 reputation, so how will it work if someone with 0 reputation has just started working/participating?
There is no details about your reputation system from whitepaper, could you provide us technological details about it? How difficult is it for someone to manipulate the ratings?
Also, there is a requirement to provide ID and recognizable face for moderation? Can you explain the details on this? Who will be the one in charge of this moderation, and how will a person's identity protected if they need to expose their privacy before participating? If the platform is going to check every participants, it wouldn't be as decentralized as it should, and there will be a point of failure where the platform failed to perform as they should.
How do you make sure a person with high rating is not another person? For example borrowed/bought account. Can anyone make sure that the "sexworkers" are protected physically and emotionally? What if it became a tool for criminal?
If your team doesn't require huge funds to make the platform success, I would suggest you to spend most of them in marketing.
Thanks for your interest. We are preparing new draft of our whitepaper, where you will find the answers on your questions. It will be posted on this weekend and we'll notify you when it's done. As for marketing, we'll run our campaign closer to ICO, when beta will be opened for testing.
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nocta (OP)
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October 25, 2017, 06:14:12 PM |
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Finally we've updated draft of our whitepaper. Some UI updates soon. Stay tuned.
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trollercoaster
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October 25, 2017, 10:51:43 PM |
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It does not lose its validity when it comes to sex. But there are many projects like this. What will be the distinguishing feature of this project?
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nocta (OP)
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October 26, 2017, 01:42:24 AM Last edit: October 26, 2017, 02:54:58 AM by nocta |
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It does not lose its validity when it comes to sex. But there are many projects like this. What will be the distinguishing feature of this project?
Hello! There is only 2 projects more that active here. One of them tries to put everything into the blockhain even a webcam shows, other is trying to collect $5m for the escort site that has nothing to do with decentralization. So there is no real project by now, except Nocta. Feel free to read our whitepaper, we tried to explain the mechanics of the platform carefully. Basically there is several main points among the platform technical features: 1. Decentralization (consist of decentralized network); 2. Anonymity and privacy of clients and servers (nodes); 3. Invulnerability to known distributed system weaknesses (sybil attack , byzantine generals problem , etc.); 4. Ability to store and search structured data; 5. Scalability (readiness for rapid growth without access speed loss); 6. Publicity (everybody must be able to download node and become the part of the network). In addition, we are aware that cash now is the most popular payment method in this market and we do not count on rapid replacement of cash by the cryptocurrencies. Thus, the direct relations between the client and the sexworker will occur as it was before; however, the cryptocurrencies will be used to pay for additional platform services and the main services in the future.
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The Crypto Peasant
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October 26, 2017, 01:53:15 AM |
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we have sein other similar projects fail and get into trouble with the law due to it being borderline prostitution.
how will you make and run the service in a way were it meets the legal requirements of were it will be used?
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nocta (OP)
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October 26, 2017, 03:07:20 AM |
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we have sein other similar projects fail and get into trouble with the law due to it being borderline prostitution.
how will you make and run the service in a way were it meets the legal requirements of were it will be used?
Unfortunately, we cannot affect on legal status of paid sex. But the platform have no centralized control center as it was before with MyRedBook, for example, so there is no way to ban it. Our mission among other is attempts to make paid sex legal. We can see positive changes in this direction in some countries, so it is all question of time, basically.
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RonMank
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October 26, 2017, 10:49:33 AM |
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That kind of project will never work. Blockchain and Sex will never work. I saw some "Sex-ICOs" in the past and all are the same -> scam or bad.
From the Whitepaper:"until the cryptocurrency is used universally, customer can make payments in cash, if wanted."
So there is no difference compare to current non-blockchain-platforms.
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Hexcolyte
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October 26, 2017, 12:44:41 PM |
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That kind of project will never work. Blockchain and Sex will never work. I saw some "Sex-ICOs" in the past and all are the same -> scam or bad.
From the Whitepaper:"until the cryptocurrency is used universally, customer can make payments in cash, if wanted."
So there is no difference compare to current non-blockchain-platforms.
From what I know Nocta is aiming to use blockchain to store verifiable data like identity and photograph, not only currency, but if the payment is made on blockchain, it is safe to say the payment is guaranteed to deliver unlike cash, but cash does provide the flexibility. Here is some questions for Nocta. So your team is going to create your own decentralized storage system, why not use the existing one like Sia? They support the development on their blockchain, and they want other people to implement services on top of their blockchain. I think Sia solution is sufficient for what your project want to achieve. What if a child is willing to involve in this industry, and enjoying the work, and very aware of the risk, and know how to protect him/herself, and supported by the parents? Will Nocta use the "pre-moderation" as described in whitepaper to stop this action and remove his/her right to involve in the industry? In my opinion, I think Nocta should leave moderation to the government and legal law, but decentralize the process and payment, binded with legal law. How is Nocta going to prevent the issue of "multi-accounts", for example, they need at least 3 users verify the photograph to make sure it is real, what is preventing he/she to self verifying and self paying? I don't think there is a way to guarantee the sex activity has been executed in real life. I my opinion, in this scenario, it is entirely possible for a person with criminal mind use Nocta as a method to hunt for his/her target. Thank you.
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nocta (OP)
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October 26, 2017, 02:30:38 PM |
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That kind of project will never work. Blockchain and Sex will never work. I saw some "Sex-ICOs" in the past and all are the same -> scam or bad.
From the Whitepaper:"until the cryptocurrency is used universally, customer can make payments in cash, if wanted."
So there is no difference compare to current non-blockchain-platforms.
From what I know Nocta is aiming to use blockchain to store verifiable data like identity and photograph, not only currency, but if the payment is made on blockchain, it is safe to say the payment is guaranteed to deliver unlike cash, but cash does provide the flexibility. Here is some questions for Nocta. So your team is going to create your own decentralized storage system, why not use the existing one like Sia? They support the development on their blockchain, and they want other people to implement services on top of their blockchain. I think Sia solution is sufficient for what your project want to achieve. What if a child is willing to involve in this industry, and enjoying the work, and very aware of the risk, and know how to protect him/herself, and supported by the parents? Will Nocta use the "pre-moderation" as described in whitepaper to stop this action and remove his/her right to involve in the industry? In my opinion, I think Nocta should leave moderation to the government and legal law, but decentralize the process and payment, binded with legal law. How is Nocta going to prevent the issue of "multi-accounts", for example, they need at least 3 users verify the photograph to make sure it is real, what is preventing he/she to self verifying and self paying? I don't think there is a way to guarantee the sex activity has been executed in real life. I my opinion, in this scenario, it is entirely possible for a person with criminal mind use Nocta as a method to hunt for his/her target. Thank you. Hello. First of all, Nocta is not aiming to store any data in the blockchain, except ratings, statuses and the payment system, of course. About Sia (and similar projects like Storj). Storage of the files is a paid function for users. Files are static, there is no option to change files and store the dynamic content. So changing profile options is impossible this way. Economic mechanics of th Nocta presume that users will pay only for the functions that give them some additional opportunities. Require payments for the basic functions of the platform is the road to nowhere. About child prostitution. Our team and most of our potential users have moral limitations. The main thing is that we do not want to have any relation to the involvement of children into this market, regardless of their parents opinion. We think that juvenile justice is not working like this. And the reputation of the platform for pedophiles will not work for us in a good way. About verifying and multi-accounts. The verification process is totally random, user cannot choose the sexworkers profile to vote for. About the rating system. Basically, users will have a "weight" of their votes. More experienced users (that have activity among several offerers) have a stronger influence on reputation of workers. Nocta is not pretending to be a flawless system, and there is always "criminal minds" but concerning to the usual relations between people on this market, it will be easier and safier to use the services. Thanks for the questions.
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qero
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October 26, 2017, 03:09:26 PM |
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Don't invest to the projects, where team members are unknown. It's mean that project isn't legal. So, we won't be listed on liquid exchanges anyway.
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nocta (OP)
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October 26, 2017, 03:27:33 PM |
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Don't invest to the projects, where team members are unknown. It's mean that project isn't legal. So, we won't be listed on liquid exchanges anyway.
Nocta is not a pump and dump token. Liquidity of the currency depend on the service demand, not on availability on major exchanges, most of which just scamming own clients (bittrex, poloniex).
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qero
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October 26, 2017, 11:23:54 PM Last edit: October 27, 2017, 12:08:51 AM by qero |
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Don't invest to the projects, where team members are unknown. It's mean that project isn't legal. So, we won't be listed on liquid exchanges anyway.
Nocta is not a pump and dump token. Liquidity of the currency depend on the service demand, not on availability on major exchanges, most of which just scamming own clients (bittrex, poloniex). Ok. If I invest my money - when I'll be able to sell tokens and how it'll be without exchange? And you need show your real faces. Anonimous team it's not seriously and smells like a scam. You may f**k all investors of Nocta without any consequences.
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nocta (OP)
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October 27, 2017, 02:17:56 AM Last edit: October 27, 2017, 03:26:39 AM by nocta |
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Don't invest to the projects, where team members are unknown. It's mean that project isn't legal. So, we won't be listed on liquid exchanges anyway.
Nocta is not a pump and dump token. Liquidity of the currency depend on the service demand, not on availability on major exchanges, most of which just scamming own clients (bittrex, poloniex). Ok. If I invest my money - when I'll be able to sell tokens and how it'll be without exchange? And you need show your real faces. Anonimous team it's not seriously and smells like a scam. You may f**k all investors of Nocta without any consequences. We did not said that there is no exchanges will be available. You've asked about some kind of "liquid", meaning the major. There is exchanges except bittrex and poloniex that freely accept currencies, related to sex. Moreover, there is decentralized exchanges like Etherdelta, where is no permission required at all. In addition, we do not deny that Nocta token/coin would be listed on major exchanges through some time, there is a way to add token/coin without disclosing the developers id. We will have our own exchange on the platform as well. What about anonymity. If you want to invest in this market, you should be better prepared and read the story about MyRedBook and Backpage. That is what happening to founders in the USA. There is more examples from the other countries, where prostitution is illegal (but offers from sexworkers are available on social networks like twitter). There is absolutely no connection between anonymity of the team and the seriousness of the project. Do you know who Satoshi Nakamoto is? Thanks for your questions.
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October 27, 2017, 05:50:47 AM |
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Don't invest to the projects, where team members are unknown. It's mean that project isn't legal. So, we won't be listed on liquid exchanges anyway.
Nocta is not a pump and dump token. Liquidity of the currency depend on the service demand, not on availability on major exchanges, most of which just scamming own clients (bittrex, poloniex). Ok. If I invest my money - when I'll be able to sell tokens and how it'll be without exchange? And you need show your real faces. Anonimous team it's not seriously and smells like a scam. You may f**k all investors of Nocta without any consequences. We did not said that there is no exchanges will be available. You've asked about some kind of "liquid", meaning the major. There is exchanges except bittrex and poloniex that freely accept currencies, related to sex. Moreover, there is decentralized exchanges like Etherdelta, where is no permission required at all. In addition, we do not deny that Nocta token/coin would be listed on major exchanges through some time, there is a way to add token/coin without disclosing the developers id. We will have our own exchange on the platform as well. What about anonymity. If you want to invest in this market, you should be better prepared and read the story about MyRedBook and Backpage. That is what happening to founders in the USA. There is more examples from the other countries, where prostitution is illegal (but offers from sexworkers are available on social networks like twitter). There is absolutely no connection between anonymity of the team and the seriousness of the project. Do you know who Satoshi Nakamoto is? Thanks for your questions. Then dont expect that people giving money to a non-known person. Anyways i still think you are a scammer. You talking the same garbage like those ENKO Scammers. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOVeDOIZ.jpg&t=665&c=ENffeI9fd2Sc1w)
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nocta (OP)
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October 27, 2017, 10:36:51 AM Last edit: October 27, 2017, 10:50:57 AM by nocta |
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Don't invest to the projects, where team members are unknown. It's mean that project isn't legal. So, we won't be listed on liquid exchanges anyway.
Nocta is not a pump and dump token. Liquidity of the currency depend on the service demand, not on availability on major exchanges, most of which just scamming own clients (bittrex, poloniex). Ok. If I invest my money - when I'll be able to sell tokens and how it'll be without exchange? And you need show your real faces. Anonimous team it's not seriously and smells like a scam. You may f**k all investors of Nocta without any consequences. We did not said that there is no exchanges will be available. You've asked about some kind of "liquid", meaning the major. There is exchanges except bittrex and poloniex that freely accept currencies, related to sex. Moreover, there is decentralized exchanges like Etherdelta, where is no permission required at all. In addition, we do not deny that Nocta token/coin would be listed on major exchanges through some time, there is a way to add token/coin without disclosing the developers id. We will have our own exchange on the platform as well. What about anonymity. If you want to invest in this market, you should be better prepared and read the story about MyRedBook and Backpage. That is what happening to founders in the USA. There is more examples from the other countries, where prostitution is illegal (but offers from sexworkers are available on social networks like twitter). There is absolutely no connection between anonymity of the team and the seriousness of the project. Do you know who Satoshi Nakamoto is? Thanks for your questions. Then dont expect that people giving money to a non-known person. Anyways i still think you are a scammer. You talking the same garbage like those ENKO Scammers. What exactly is a garbage? The arests of the founders of these sites? It is just the facts. Considering your aggresiveness and offensive activity in this thread, it's clear that you a person which is directly connected with a ssio project, developer of which is anonymous too. Ask him about. We are ready to answer on a reasonable question about our project, if you have any. Thanks.
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October 27, 2017, 05:03:21 PM |
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hello, i found post about your project on golos.io. And have a questions - how will do you employ your service in countreis there it is unlegal? can i get tokens with translations? thank you!
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nocta (OP)
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October 29, 2017, 02:41:15 PM |
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hello, i found post about your project on golos.io. And have a questions - how will do you employ your service in countreis there it is unlegal? can i get tokens with translations? thank you!
Hello. The services is already works worldwide. Somewhere they are just hidden. Platform will connect people in one place. To make a translation you must have an account with the minimum rank of Jr. Member (you must be able to post pictures). Sorry.
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