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September 06, 2017, 07:10:43 PM
Last edit: September 17, 2017, 02:28:59 PM by bigjee
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What happened::

Papapawl, the scam artist basically put up a for sale listing for 2 D3's coming in Sep 15-25.
He did not offer escrow service and I didnt know what escrow was at the time.
i agreed to put down a security deposit of 0.15 BTC and then pay remaining 0.85 BTC once the miner was ready to ship by Paul. Total cost 1 BTC.
He also took 2.1 BTC for the same miners from another member here (so oversold can see reference link).
He updated the thread to both units sold and then a few days later changed it back to 1 LEFT (to continue scamming).

Fast forward a week, he replies back and says that he was camping and couldnt reply back. So offer to give refund or use escrow. And provides this proof of order from Bitmain for several D3 that he has coming to him:


By this time I had understood what an escrow was willing to use i as along as he agreed. Little did i know that he was going to impersonate Ognasty by using a fake email "ognasty@post.com"
Sept 4 when i was ready to send the BTC i asked if he could verify the wallet address to send to. I never got a reply. So I contacted Ognasty through the bitcoin talk forum here and he said that I had most liekly been scammed.
SO as of today Sept. 6 I havent heard back from papapawl, Ognasty (FAKE email account) and have been left with no one to contact with using an escrow.

Purpose of this thread is to ensure that ppl stay clear and learn what sort of traps scammers set.
ALWAYS communicate with veteran members and communicate in public forum PM is bs, email is BS.

Any way I have posted his Drivers license and other info below.
 
Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108749
Driver's license:

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2090925.msg21181975#msg21181975
Amount Scammed: 0.16 BTC
Payment Method: BTC Wallet to wallet
Proof of Payment:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

As long as it's close. It mainly just assures me you are going to follow through Smiley

1Aeo5NkZnWxwokdN8HqZQp3fEHTJgjDR6c is my wallet address... as soon as I see it hit I will update the thread to show that 1 is sold, so people stop trying to buy both lol

-Paul

First payment 0.0729 BTC:


second portion 0.061 BTC:


last portion of payment 0.0016 BTC:

 
His PM indicating payment received in full for the security deposit:
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hey there Smiley

Deposit received in full! Thank you, the miner is YOURS!

I am having a minor issue with the bitmain accounts that I discovered earlier when trying to give ownership to my other buyer.... it's linked to my phone # and requires a SMS code to login! Doh!

I've submitted a ticket with Bitmain for all of my accounts to get it removed, so hoping to get a response from that within the next 24 hours. I will keep you updated though. Don't worry, everything will be fine Smiley.

-Paul



PM/Chat Logs:

One of 1st PM's, full of BS as I found out later. NEVER take someones word for it on the internet:
Hey there,

I don't anticipate there being any customs fees with these orders as there are only 2, from what I've heard customs only stops people who have more than 10 physical boxes or packages in a single shipment.

Also, if there is duty fees, Bitmain places on the box "Computer Hardware Valued at $200", that way the duty is cheap. I am willing to cover the Duty should customs request it.


As far as the shipping goes, I can only give my word that I will ship out the miner as soon as I receive it, or the very next business day, if I receive it too late in the day to re-ship it back out. I am also willing to provide you with the actual ACCOUNT they were purchased on, the login and password information, you can login and change the email address and password, from that point forward only you will have access to seeing when they actually ship, opening repair or maintenance tickets, etc. The bitmain account also has my name and address where they are being physically shipped to. I don't want anyone showing up at my door because I "scammed" them... I have a family and children, and am not trying to do anything to create that kind of bad karma.


Paypal's fees are absolutely atrocious, and it's the #1 reason I am not just simply selling these on eBay. That, and I paid in BTC, and it's not easy to convert USD back into BTC quickly, so I would really honestly prefer some form of Crypto payment.

I hope we can work something out.

-Paul


Another PM:

Hey bud,

Sorry I didn't get back to you. I was camping over the weekend and could barely get internet access Smiley I tried to login, but it was so slow I gave up lol

Do you have an email address? I need to share an email with you from Bitmain Cheesy

Then proceeds to communicate via email.

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Paul Brown <papapawl@mail.com> wrote:
OG: Confirm TXID https://blockexplorer.com/tx/80efcc80e62ae612d3ea1faf2de856602deb6ccd659521df255ae86c1dd070d3 in the amount of 0.5 BTC to your wallet.
 
Please split this deposit of mine evenly between my buyer Sabir here, and the other buyer I am working through you with, should I not fullfill any part of my side of the deal. To be clear. This .5 is to be split amongs the 2 buyers, added with their refund, if I do not follow through with my side of the deal.
 
I hope this is enough to satisfy you. I figured 0.15 wasn't quite enough, so I did 0.25. I also extended the same courtesy to another buyer I have been closing a sale with for a bit.
 
 
OG - please advise you received it.
 
Thanks guys.

Additional Notes:

So I send him another 0.01 BTC as a fee to cover the transaction (note how the wallet address is different from OgNasty's wallet address posted in his thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303281.0:

Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 6:50 PM
From: "S**** ****" <*******@gmail.com>
To: "Paul Brown" <papapawl@m
ail.com>, ognasty@post.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: D3 Order
Hi Og,
I have sent you 0.01 BTC to 1A1kF65eiwnJs9ydRWkNJngPHP1FFyX5Yr.
Thanks.

Communication between real Ognasty and me once I found out what happened (see link for photoshopped fake communication).
Here is the direct link where you asked him to email you:


For some reason this damn forum doesnt allow me to post pictures.

Let me make this clear.  I DO NOT COMMUNICATE VIA EMAIL.  I USE THIS FORUM'S PM SYSTEM TO ARRANGE AND VERIFY ESCROWS.  IF SOMEONE ASKS YOU TO EMAIL THEM, THEY ARE NOT ME.  IF SOMEONE CLAIMS I ARRANGED AN ESCROW DEAL VIA EMAIL, THEY ARE A SCAMMER AND YOU SHOULD MAKE A SCAM ACCUSATION.

I cannot be more clear than that.  Please take the appropriate action, which is not bumping my escrow thread, but creating a scam accusation against the person who tried to scam you in the appropriate section.

So now you should be 100% certain this was a scam attempt, and 100% certain that your next post should be a scam accusation in the appropriate section listing the person's username that tried to scam you and all available evidence.
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What happened::

Papapawl, the scam artist basically put up a for sale listing for 2 D3's coming in Sep 15-25.
He did not offer escrow service and I didnt know what escrow was at the time.
i agreed to put down a security deposit of 0.15 BTC and then pay remaining 0.85 BTC once the miner was ready to ship by Paul. Total cost 1 BTC.
He also took 2.1 BTC for the same miners from another member here (so oversold can see reference link).
He updated the thread to both units sold and then a few days later changed it back to 1 LEFT (to continue scamming).

Fast forward a week, he replies back and says that he was camping and couldnt reply back. So offer to give refund or use escrow.
By this time I had understood what an escrow was willing to use i as along as he agreed. Little did i know that he was going to impersonate Ognasty by using a fake email "ognasty@post.com"
Sept 4 when i was ready to send the BTC i asked if he could verify the wallet address to send to. I never got a reply. So I contacted Ognasty through the bitcoin talk forum here and he said that I had most liekly been scammed.
SO as of today Sept. 6 I havent heard back from papapawl, Ognasty (FAKE email account) and have been left with no one to contact with using an escrow.

Purpose of this thread is to ensure that ppl stay clear and learn what sort of traps scammers set.
ALWAYS communicate with veteran members and communicate in public forum PM is bs, email is BS.

Any way I have posted his Drivers license and other info below.
 
Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108749
Driver's license:

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2090925.msg21181975#msg21181975
Amount Scammed: 0.16 BTC
Payment Method: BTC Wallet to wallet
Proof of Payment:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

As long as it's close. It mainly just assures me you are going to follow through Smiley

1Aeo5NkZnWxwokdN8HqZQp3fEHTJgjDR6c is my wallet address... as soon as I see it hit I will update the thread to show that 1 is sold, so people stop trying to buy both lol

-Paul

First payment 0.0729 BTC:


second portion 0.061 BTC:


last portion of payment 0.0016 BTC:

 
His PM indicating payment received in full for the security deposit:
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hey there Smiley

Deposit received in full! Thank you, the miner is YOURS!

I am having a minor issue with the bitmain accounts that I discovered earlier when trying to give ownership to my other buyer.... it's linked to my phone # and requires a SMS code to login! Doh!

I've submitted a ticket with Bitmain for all of my accounts to get it removed, so hoping to get a response from that within the next 24 hours. I will keep you updated though. Don't worry, everything will be fine Smiley.

-Paul



PM/Chat Logs:
Hey bud,

Sorry I didn't get back to you. I was camping over the weekend and could barely get internet access Smiley I tried to login, but it was so slow I gave up lol

Do you have an email address? I need to share an email with you from Bitmain Cheesy

Then proceeds to communicate via email.

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Paul Brown <papapawl@mail.com> wrote:
OG: Confirm TXID https://blockexplorer.com/tx/80efcc80e62ae612d3ea1faf2de856602deb6ccd659521df255ae86c1dd070d3 in the amount of 0.5 BTC to your wallet.
 
Please split this deposit of mine evenly between my buyer Sabir here, and the other buyer I am working through you with, should I not fullfill any part of my side of the deal. To be clear. This .5 is to be split amongs the 2 buyers, added with their refund, if I do not follow through with my side of the deal.
 
Sabir: I hope this is enough to satisfy you. I figured 0.15 wasn't quite enough, so I did 0.25. I also extended the same courtesy to another buyer I have been closing a sale with for a bit.
 
 
OG - please advise you received it.
 
Thanks guys.

Additional Notes:

So I send him another 0.01 BTC as a fee to cover the transaction (note how the wallet address is different from OgNasty's wallet address posted in his thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303281.0:


Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 6:50 PM
From: "S**** ****" <*******@gmail.com>
To: "Paul Brown" <papapawl@mail.com>, ognasty@post.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: D3 Order
Hi Og,
I have sent you 0.01 BTC to 1A1kF65eiwnJs9ydRWkNJngPHP1FFyX5Yr.
Thanks.
 
Sabir

Communication between real Ognasty and me once I found out what happened (see link for photoshopped fake communication).
Here is the direct link where you asked him to email you:


For some reason this damn forum doesnt allow me to post pictures.

Let me make this clear.  I DO NOT COMMUNICATE VIA EMAIL.  I USE THIS FORUM'S PM SYSTEM TO ARRANGE AND VERIFY ESCROWS.  IF SOMEONE ASKS YOU TO EMAIL THEM, THEY ARE NOT ME.  IF SOMEONE CLAIMS I ARRANGED AN ESCROW DEAL VIA EMAIL, THEY ARE A SCAMMER AND YOU SHOULD MAKE A SCAM ACCUSATION.

I cannot be more clear than that.  Please take the appropriate action, which is not bumping my escrow thread, but creating a scam accusation against the person who tried to scam you in the appropriate section.

So now you should be 100% certain this was a scam attempt, and 100% certain that your next post should be a scam accusation in the appropriate section listing the person's username that tried to scam you and all available evidence.


sorry to hear about this.

explains why you're so sour.

How do you know that the guy in the ID is the guy that agreed to sell you the miners?

you could call the police
take legal action
sue

send a demand letter

etc
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updated with fake bitmain D3 order screenshot provided to me at the time.
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Bump as this asshole continues to scam others
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Bump as this asshole continues to scam others

what a prick
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