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September 07, 2017, 02:48:13 AM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .

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September 07, 2017, 03:08:08 AM
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I always find myself debating this as well.
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September 07, 2017, 03:13:26 AM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .


I can see where you are coming from. For me, I trade with BTC because its offer the most trading pairs in the trading platform that I am using. But sometimes, I switch to USDT when BTC price is going down.
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September 07, 2017, 03:15:06 AM
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I did trading with pair BTC because purpose of trading altcoin is to make more amount of BTC. And when amount of BTC more then the price up so we have double profit. This is good strategi for holding BTC longterm.

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September 07, 2017, 03:27:11 AM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .


I can see where you are coming from. For me, I trade with BTC because its offer the most trading pairs in the trading platform that I am using. But sometimes, I switch to USDT when BTC price is going down.

This is why I trade with BTC.  When I first setup my trading bot (Gunbot) I started with USDT so my brain could easily understand the outputs and the calculations.  I eventually went away from USDT and converted fully to BTC.  I also found that when I traded USDT and BTC it made profit calculations difficult since calculating profit in USDT would always be impacted by BTC's value.  Now it's all about growing the BTC.

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September 10, 2017, 02:42:41 AM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .


I can see where you are coming from. For me, I trade with BTC because its offer the most trading pairs in the trading platform that I am using. But sometimes, I switch to USDT when BTC price is going down.

so it's only because of trading volume !

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September 10, 2017, 02:49:40 AM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .


You cannot see a 100% growth in USDT trading. Not even 50% I guess. In BTC trading the growth will reach as high as 300%. I know you noticed it because you are trading. Aside from that, in USDT, there are only a handful of coins you can trade with. In BTC based or ETH based, the list of coins are so many to choose from.

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September 10, 2017, 04:26:14 AM
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nobody uses USDT.

i am no exception. i liked the idea of USDT at first sight but with more study i do not trust it at all. and it is not stable either. there are times when it falls under $1 and they don't even guarantee the price. so i don't use it.

on top of it, i want profit on my bitcoin not on my fiat. fiat is fiat and its value will be the same no matter what. but bitcoin is rising and because of that i want to have more of it. so obviously i trade with bitcoin so that i can increase my stash.

i think everyone else is doing the same for same reasons too!

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September 10, 2017, 04:44:36 AM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .

Because the USDT equal with the dollar and there is no a lot of the volatility and that was not same with the bitcoin that can get a big duump just in a second, and i sure a lot of people are losing in the bigdump by the whale. They are like with the bitcoin caused by it will be so easy to be predicted.

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September 10, 2017, 04:51:53 AM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .

The advantage of using BTC while trading altcoin is better than USDT. On other side we are trading altcoin we can also hold BTC wait until the price goes up. Sometimes the movement of bitcoin values is more likely to rise faster than altcoin.

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September 10, 2017, 05:43:04 AM
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HEY ,i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT[/color][/font]
no, you make money if you make a successful trade. it doesn't matter what you use to trade with. it can be USD, USDT, LTC, CNY, or grains of salt Smiley

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as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,
USDT (Tether) is neither stable nor equivalent to USD!
read their website explaining it if you don't believe it.
and you can also check out the price history and see all the big dips!

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so i can get my calculations .
calculations can be done with anything. you just need amount before and after a trade.

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on the other hand trading with btc[/color] isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
trading with BTC is the most profitable of all since bitcoin price rises in long term.
and also when bitcoin price goes down all the other altcoins will go down with it. it doesn't matter if you trade with USDT, the price of the altcoin will go down against that too and USDT can tank hard and you lose twice.

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September 10, 2017, 05:52:13 AM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .

Whatever you choose you can make great profit. Dont get me wrong, if you are good in trading of altcoin > USD then so be it, stay with it. And when thr price of bitcoin starts to move down just take the advantage of buying some more, you have freedom to choose on where you are comfortable.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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September 10, 2017, 06:36:00 AM
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USDT is one of those things that only looks good from afar but it is far from good.

the first time i found out about tether i thought this is exactly what crypto world needs. something that is not fiat but it has the same value. but when you study it an read a little more about it you can see it is not really good at all. it in fact has a lot of risk. risk that is unnecessarily introduced when you use it. and it is heavily centralized which is always bad in crypto world.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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September 10, 2017, 06:52:40 AM
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USDT is one of those things that only looks good from afar but it is far from good.

the first time i found out about tether i thought this is exactly what crypto world needs. something that is not fiat but it has the same value. but when you study it an read a little more about it you can see it is not really good at all. it in fact has a lot of risk. risk that is unnecessarily introduced when you use it. and it is heavily centralized which is always bad in crypto world.
usdt and crypto equally have the most important thing to analyze your trading, let alone btc price up and down,
it is usdt and btc not too far importance
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September 10, 2017, 07:15:59 AM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .


I trade with Tether if the whole market is dropping, but Tether often only has a trading pair with Bitcoin and major alts. So you'd have to go alt->Bitcoin->Tether, and then back again when you want to re-buy... with % costs at each step.
The other point is just self-fulfilling: the Bitcoin markets have higher volumes, which means a lower spread between maximum buy price and minimum sell price, which means more people will use this market, which leads back to higher volumes.
Finally some people still view Tether as a risk. It is supposed to be pegged to the dollar, but it does have a tendency to drift a few cents - particularly when markets are at their most volatile.
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September 10, 2017, 09:27:58 AM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .


I can see where you are coming from. For me, I trade with BTC because its offer the most trading pairs in the trading platform that I am using. But sometimes, I switch to USDT when BTC price is going down.

so it's only because of trading volume !
It's not just the trading volume. I use btc because I simply always have some and it's easy to send them on some exchanger like bittrex and start trading. As for dollars, I'm not living in the USA, so this is a currency which has to be converted to the local currency and actually the rates are not very nice right now. Moreover, I don't have any debit card with dollars, so it's rather difficult to send them on an exchanger. And to this one last thing should be added: yes, bitcoin is currently dropping, but in general it is always growing.

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September 10, 2017, 09:43:07 AM
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USDT is one of those things that only looks good from afar but it is far from good.

the first time i found out about tether i thought this is exactly what crypto world needs. something that is not fiat but it has the same value. but when you study it an read a little more about it you can see it is not really good at all. it in fact has a lot of risk. risk that is unnecessarily introduced when you use it. and it is heavily centralized which is always bad in crypto world.

This. It's shady as anything, and eventually when it's shut down for pretending to be dollars, people will lose their money.

Stick to trading against BTC.

 
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September 10, 2017, 10:10:30 AM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .


i think it up to you how you trade Altcoin With USD it is fine too but if you are talking about Altcoin it mean Alternative coin of bitcoin
So most people keep bitcoin in hand because BTC rising and since 2011
 
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September 10, 2017, 04:54:46 PM
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HEY ,
i have noticed that i'd make more money if i trade altcoin with USDT as it's stable and equivalent to usd ,so i can get my calculations .on the other hand trading with btc isn't that much profitable or sometimes not profitable at all if btc price gone down , so why most people trade with btc !
i think i'm missing something .

If you really think that it is a good option then it is your choice to trade USD rather than bitcoin,i am happy and i am earning a good deed trading with bitcoin because we are having a good rally in the price till now and as long as the price of bitcoin is volatile and moves higher i am happy dealing with bitcoin.
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September 10, 2017, 04:57:23 PM
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BTC has more trading pairs so less % lost on trades, plus there are some traders who are interested in their bitcoin portfolio more than their fiat one, they're just not interested in usdt.
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