swissguy is a scammer BEWARE

[Phenomenal]

What happened:: He said he was selling b365 and betfair accounts and posted a couple of fake vouches. I contacted him about buying a b365 and betfair account. Told him I'd not go first and he kept crying and trying to how me proof till I felt bad and sent the money first as it's only €150. Turns out even such a sum is a big deal where he's from (India) and apart from excuses since that point on I haven't gotten anything. Oh and he also says he's Swiss when you can clearly ascertain he's not.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553052

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2131981

Amount Scammed: €150

Payment Method: Skrill

Proof of Payment: https://imgur.com/a/1Te6k

PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/xYk6B

Additional Notes: Do not deal with this scammer till the issue is resolved. He's also a degenerate gambler and a consistent loser at that if his previous posts are anything to go by. If you need any more info PM me.

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[swissguy]

Can you remove these shit posts and i dont know how impatience you are even my skype status clearly told you that i will reach you soon at night but you still not wait for me .  Btw you have your accounts now so please close this topic now .

Thanks for the purchase

[Phenomenal]

Can you remove these shit posts and i dont know how impatience you are even my skype status clearly told you that i will reach you soon at night but you still not wait for me .  Btw you have your accounts now so please close this topic now .

Thanks for the purchase

Nope I DO NOT have what I asked for. Like I have told you multiple times, I NEED SKRILL.

So either provide me what I paid for or send me a full refund and take your accounts back.

Again, if you have any difficulty understanding - I NEED SKRILL like I have told you umpteen times before.

If you still have any issues understanding what I need, feel free to go through the multiple screenshots I posted.

The scam report stands.

[warningsigns]

Indians always do that. Very calculating and manipulative people. Most are dishonest. I'm always extremely cautious when visiting India as there are times that I do not have a choice but go there for professional reasons. For anything you give them, there is a calculated purpose and a calculated return expected.

In your case, this is another classic example of why one should be extremely cautious when dealing with strangers but even far more extremely cautious when dealing with strangers from certain countries such as India and those in the African continent.

True, scammers are everywhere on this planet but Indian and African scams are some of the most pernicious ones you will encounter.

Harsh as the above may sound but it represents the reality of the situation. Transacting with such people is a major PITA. They always try to get one message across: we Indians are to be trusted while you and everyone else are not. The symptoms are common: they always begin conversations with brother, dear, love, kitten, honey, sweety pie and similar nonsense and proceed with trying to dissect you financially. 150 Euros may not be much for Europeans but in India this amount converts to enough Rupees to buy them a whole month' worth of curry food.

Always use escrow.

[ImHereToExpose]

this is islapdonkey's second account known scammer


islapdonkey is also islapdonkey2 and 3 but operates a blackmail group on slack

[xypos]

If Swissguy hasn't delivered the skrill account still, then he should asap. Because i can see from the logs clearly that they have agreed on having the skrill account along with the sportsbetting account, and that is the whole purchase not just one betting account.

OP, take this as a lesson. You have very little negotiating power if you don't use escrow and you will often find the other party reluctant to comply with your demands until you open a scam accusation, even if you have clearly agreed on them before.

150 euros is a pretty big amount even in the US... I would recommend not just throwing it to random people lol.

[darelwd]

This Guy is scammer. Sent 100eur and to me back sent nothing. Wanted buy 365accs and this indian not man always crying that He hasnt reviews
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His skrill Prateek Solanki - Ptsolagr@gmail.com , this skrill will be banned from skrill near time with this fucker scammer. He doesn't understand that he will be in trouble, because my friends already looking for him.

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[Lauda]

This Guy is scammer. Sent 100eur and to me back sent nothing. Wanted buy 365accs and this indian not man always crying that He hasnt reviews
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His skrill Prateek Solanki - Ptsolagr@gmail.com , this skrill will be banned from skrill near time with this fucker scammer. He doesn't understand that he will be in trouble, because my friends already looking for him.

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You need to provide some proof for your claim, and he may be tagged.

[TrumpD]

Indians always do that. Very calculating and manipulative people. Most are dishonest. I'm always extremely cautious when visiting India as there are times that I do not have a choice but go there for professional reasons. For anything you give them, there is a calculated purpose and a calculated return expected.

In your case, this is another classic example of why one should be extremely cautious when dealing with strangers but even far more extremely cautious when dealing with strangers from certain countries such as India and those in the African continent.

True, scammers are everywhere on this planet but Indian and African scams are some of the most pernicious ones you will encounter.

Harsh as the above may sound but it represents the reality of the situation. Transacting with such people is a major PITA. They always try to get one message across: we Indians are to be trusted while you and everyone else are not. The symptoms are common: they always begin conversations with brother, dear, love, kitten, honey, sweety pie and similar nonsense and proceed with trying to dissect you financially. 150 Euros may not be much for Europeans but in India this amount converts to enough Rupees to buy them a whole month' worth of curry food.

Always use escrow.

You may have a point, but your assertion is wrong. To paint all Indians with the same brush is stupid frankly. Personally, I've met scammers from every where. Most people will scam if they can get away with it, regardless of where they're from or reside.To say Indians and Africans are so so and so is just plain ignorant I am afraid.

I have met a lot of good people, and bad in equal measure, scamming demographics have nothing to do with culture, it is all about economics. Just saying, I am not Indian. Hopefully, the scammer will be tagged soon. Op learn your lesson and always, always, use escrow.

[CounterStrike]

No escrow = no money. All forum trades are 99% scam.

[DegenerateBeast]

...To paint all Indians with the same brush is stupid frankly. Personally, I've met scammers from every where. Most people will scam if they can get away with it....

(bold text my emphasis, not the original quote)


The consummate lurker here, checking in. 

I was on board with your righteous (the good kind) advocacy of unprejudiced mindset at the start there, then ya lost me.  Do you really believe that?  I'm probably more jaded than most - as I type, I'm besieged by Nigerians on LocalBitcoins pushing pics of Amazon or Visa gift cards.  Cards they've swindled from unwitting geriatrics who purchased them in the US.  This happens all night, every night if I keep those ads open and they are all Nigerians as it were.  But I definitely have a bit more faith in humanity in general than to suggest that most would scam given the opportunity.

I have no idea why I felt the need the need to respond to you nor how I ended up at BitcoinTalk for that matter (think I was looking for info on Alex Kuzmin )  Sorry for the semi-hijack.  Your assertion just got me thinking...and it's lonely trading all night alone.  lol

[BTC-Graphicdesigns]

Indians always do that. Very calculating and manipulative people. Most are dishonest. I'm always extremely cautious when visiting India as there are times that I do not have a choice but go there for professional reasons. For anything you give them, there is a calculated purpose and a calculated return expected.

In your case, this is another classic example of why one should be extremely cautious when dealing with strangers but even far more extremely cautious when dealing with strangers from certain countries such as India and those in the African continent.

True, scammers are everywhere on this planet but Indian and African scams are some of the most pernicious ones you will encounter.

Harsh as the above may sound but it represents the reality of the situation. Transacting with such people is a major PITA. They always try to get one message across: we Indians are to be trusted while you and everyone else are not. The symptoms are common: they always begin conversations with brother, dear, love, kitten, honey, sweety pie and similar nonsense and proceed with trying to dissect you financially. 150 Euros may not be much for Europeans but in India this amount converts to enough Rupees to buy them a whole month' worth of curry food.

Always use escrow.

You may have a point, but your assertion is wrong. To paint all Indians with the same brush is stupid frankly. Personally, I've met scammers from every where. Most people will scam if they can get away with it, regardless of where they're from or reside.To say Indians and Africans are so so and so is just plain ignorant I am afraid.

I have met a lot of good people, and bad in equal measure, scamming demographics have nothing to do with culture, it is all about economics. Just saying, I am not Indian. Hopefully, the scammer will be tagged soon. Op learn your lesson and always, always, use escrow.

Says another Indian Scammer 

[Somz1]

Indians always do that. Very calculating and manipulative people. Most are dishonest. I'm always extremely cautious when visiting India as there are times that I do not have a choice but go there for professional reasons. For anything you give them, there is a calculated purpose and a calculated return expected.

In your case, this is another classic example of why one should be extremely cautious when dealing with strangers but even far more extremely cautious when dealing with strangers from certain countries such as India and those in the African continent.

True, scammers are everywhere on this planet but Indian and African scams are some of the most pernicious ones you will encounter.

Harsh as the above may sound but it represents the reality of the situation. Transacting with such people is a major PITA. They always try to get one message across: we Indians are to be trusted while you and everyone else are not. The symptoms are common: they always begin conversations with brother, dear, love, kitten, honey, sweety pie and similar nonsense and proceed with trying to dissect you financially. 150 Euros may not be much for Europeans but in India this amount converts to enough Rupees to buy them a whole month' worth of curry food.

Always use escrow.

Yeah at no point in the chat (between the op and the scammer) was there a mention about the latter being an Indian (Swiss citizen in Nepal)
Only mentions was accounts of Indian origin being traded.
It's easy to point fingers and stereotype while the fact is any human is capable of scamming.

[kakkdim]

HE IS A SCAMER STEAL MONEY>>>
idont know why moderators are haviving this indian bastard  here.. Ptsolagr is neteller fake to steal your money

[Barcode_]

It is always better to use a trusted escrow for doing deals with strangers online, never trust any strangers that promise you everything or tell you stories about his reputations anywhere, it doesn't matter because it is an online world where everyone can use fake identity or create a fake profile, take it as a lesson learnt and use an escrow next time.