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September 08, 2017, 09:36:36 PM
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Bitsler.com banned my account without any reason. I send the ticket to Bitsler's support

Hi admin/support,

My nick banned.
I dont know the reason why my account banned.
Hope you reply me soon.

Slimde.



On 7 September 2017 at 13:17, Bitsler Support <baryom.bitsler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello sir,

We found out how you abused our faucet with the exchanger. We don't unblock you.

Kind regards,
William


After that, I reply the email:
Hi William,

I read clearly the rule of your site (FAQ)

What is faucet farming?
If a player never makes a deposit and sends his/her faucet claims between accounts in order to withdraw it, usually without ever wagering.
Can I exchange from one currency to another currency on Bitsler?
Yes, you can! Go to the top right-hand side and click on the two arrows pointing away from each other? [exchange popup]

You can view my roll history. I deposited and wagered.
I lost my coin and I earned my coin.
What the violation on my account?

The bitsler site scam account when the player win???

Slimde.


FAQ of Bitsler is here:

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FAQ
What is bitsler.com?
Bitsler is an online gambling site established in November 2015. We allow users from all around the world to play games like Dice, Roulette, Multicolour and Caray Cruz on our site. In only 1 year, Bitsler has become the leader in bitcoin gambling industry and it is thanks to our awesome community!
What is bitcoin?
https://bitcoin.org/en
Bitcoin is a form of digital currency that is created and held electronically. It is also decentralized which means that no one controls it.
What is cryptocurrency?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency
A cryptocurrency is a digital or virtual currency that uses cryptography for security.
Why play on bitsler.com?
- High faucet, unlimited faucet
- Best support and staff in the gambling industry
- Multiple games to choose from
- Multiple currencies to play with
- Instant deposits
- Instant withdrawals
- Extensive list of contests
- Provably fair
- Friendly chat
What games can I play?
- Dice
- Roulette
- Cara y cruz
- Multicolor
What is the house's edge?
A term used to describe the mathematical advantage that games has over you as you play over time.
Bitsler's edge is only 1% for the dice.
I don't know how to play, do you have tutorials?
(Comming soon)
How do I qualify to receive rain?
Chatty Bot tips random users that wear an avatar or has been recently active in chat.
How do I change my avatar?
On the left-hand panel of the screen, under the account option, there is an option to choose 'edit avatar'.
Choose the option to 'upload avatar'. After you have chosen an avatar you will have an option to zoom in and zoom out. You can finalize your choice and update your avatar by clicking on the green square.
Where can I find the latest updates and news about events and promotions?
Blog - (Comming soon)
Newsletter - (Comming soon)
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/BitSler/
Twitter - https://twitter.com/bitsler?lang=en
Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/domain/bitsler.com/
Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPfXyWRNsfwirH653NFXyzg
Twitch - https://www.twitch.tv/bitsler
Is this site fair?
Yes, bitsler uses CSPRNG (Cryptographically secure pseudorandom number generator) to ensure total fairness.
Go to the bottom of the page and click on verification for more information
I did not set a password and I lost access to my account, what can I do to retrieve it?
Please send an email containing your username and IP address via the SUPPORT form. Try to mention all the possible details.
How do I change my password?
On the left-hand side panel, under Account, choose an option 'change password'.
How do I change my email address?
On the left-hand side panel, under Account, choose 'email address'.
What are the minimum and maximum allowed deposit amounts?
There are no limits on deposits.
What is the minimum withdrawal amount for each currency?
Bitcoin (BTC): 0.003
Litecoin (LTC): 0.15
Dogecoin (DOGE): 2000
Ethereum (ETH): 0.05
Burst (BURST): 200
What are the minimum withdrawal fees for each currency?
Bitcoin (BTC): 0.0003
Litecoin (LTC): 0.001
Dogecoin (DOGE): 1
Ethereum (ETH): 0.001
Burst (BURST): 1
What are the min/max bet amounts on Dice?
- Bitcoin (BTC): 0.00000001 / 10
- Litecoin (LTC): 0.00001000 / 200
- Dogecoin (DOGE): 1.00000000 / 5,000,000
- Ethereum (ETH): 0.00000100 / 100
- Burst (BURST): 0.01000000 / 3,000,000
What are the min/max bet amounts on Social roulette?
- Bitcoin (BTC): 0.00000100 / 3
- Litecoin (LTC): 0.00001000 / 100
- Dogecoin (DOGE): 1.00000000 / 2,000,000
- Ethereum (ETH): 0.00000100 / 25
What are the min/max bet amounts on Multicolor?
- Bitcoin (BTC): 0.00000001 / 2
- Litecoin (LTC): 0.00001000 / 100
- Dogecoin (DOGE): 1.00000000 / 3,000,000
- Ethereum (ETH): 0.00000100 / 40
- Burst (BURST): 1.00000000 / 1,000,000
What are the min/max bet amounts on Cara Y Cruz?
- Bitcoin (BTC): 0.00000001 / 10
- Litecoin (LTC): 0.00001000 / 200
- Dogecoin (DOGE): 1.00000000 / 5,000,000
- Ethereum (ETH): 0.00000100 / 100
- Burst (BURST): 0.01000000 / 3,000,000
Can I deposit Ethereum Classic (ETC) into my Bitsler Ethereum (ETH) address?
No, we do not support Ethereum Classic and your ETC deposits will be lost if you try to deposit it.
How do I withdraw?
[withdraw popup] enter the desired amount, your wallet address and click on withdraw.
Usually, we process withdrawal request in a few minutes but in some cases, withdrawal request can be delayed up to 48 hours due to a security check.
If you have a problem with your withdrawal, please check your transaction on blockchain.info or contact support.
How can I increase my level/experience points?
Levels are gained by reaching a certain threshold of experience for each respective level. You can gain experience by wagering coins and unlock additional achievements by being active in chat.
Gaining levels provides you with a boosted faucet which provides you with far greater rewards.
What bonuses and promotions do bitsler have in general?
- Chat quizzes
- Double deposit
- Lucky roll
- Twitter giveaways
- Bitcointalk competitions
- Facebook giveaways
What is the faucet?
A way to claim some free bankroll which will be added to your account. You can claim several times a day up to 15 times maximum for new players, and no limit for LEGEND.
I see players with badges in chat, what do they mean?
VIP - has wagered more than BTC 150
Legend - has wagered more than BTC 2600
MOD - Moderator
Admin - Administrator
(more coming soon)
Does bitsler have a bug bounty program?
Yes! We love to remove and fix bugs, so please contact us at administrator@bitsler.com.
How long should I wait until deposit is credited?
In general, each deposit requires 5-10 minutes to be credited, unless if you are considered trusted in which case it should be instant.
If you have problems with your deposit, please check your transaction on blockchain.info or contact suppport.
What is Luck?
A measurement of how good your gameplay is against random numbers. It does not take betting values into account.
Does Bitsler support Dicebot?
Yes!
Any recommendations on which bitcoin wallet I should use?
For a list of options on what to use, please go here https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
Is there an advantage if I change my seeds regularly?
Shortly the answer is no [verification popup]
Is Bitsler optimized for mobile use?
Yes
Does Bitsler have a mobile app?
(Comming soon)
Can I have more than one account to play on and "bank" with?
If are not planning on faucet farming, then yes!
Help, I need more promotional materials for the affiliate program.
If you need additional promotional materials, please send a message to our support with your request and we will be happy to assist you with your needs.
Does bitsler have a public API that I can use?
(Comming soon)
How can I win the jackpot?
Your roll number needs to be 77.77, the last two digits of your betID needs to be 77, and your minimum bet amount must be (0,000005 BTC / 0,00025 ETH / 0.001 LTC / 1 DOGE) or higher in order to win
What are the best browsers to play on when using Bitsler?
Chrome or firefox
What is self-referral?
Signing up under your own affiliate link in order to get referral earnings for all your bets.
Can I refer myself, in order to earn more affiliate profits?
No this isn't allowed.
What is faucet farming?
If a player never makes a deposit and sends his/her faucet claims between accounts in order to withdraw it, usually without ever wagering.
Am I allowed to faucet farm here?
No.
Can I exchange from one currency to another currency on Bitsler?
Yes, you can! Go to the top right-hand side and click on the two arrows pointing away from each other? [exchange popup]
What is the minimum amount that I am allowed to exchange?
- Bitcoin (BTC): 0.0005
- Litecoin (LTC): 0.1
- Dogecoin (DOGE): 5000
- Ethereum (ETH): 0.05
- Burst (BURST): 2500
What is the maximum amount that I am allowed to exchange?
- Bitcoin (BTC): 2
- Litecoin (LTC): 200
- Dogecoin (DOGE): 2000000
- Ethereum (ETH): 15
- Burst (BURST): 350000
I think I have a gambling problem. What can I do?
You can find advice or counseling at the following websites:
- Australia: Gambling Help On Line http://www.gamblinghelponline.org.au/
- Canada : Responsible Gaming Resource Ctr http://www.rgrc.org/
- Denmark : Center for Ludomani http://ludomani.dk/
- France : Adictel http://www.adictel.com/
- Ireland: Gamble Aware http://www.gambleaware.ie/
- Netherlands : Center of Responsible Gaming http://www.centrumvoorverantwoordspelen.nl/ , Tactus http://tactus.nl/
- Slovenia : Center for Addiction Treatment Nova Gorica http://www.zd-go.si/ambulante/zdravljenje-odvisnosti/, Logout http://www.logout.si/
- Spain : JugarBIEN.es http://www.jugarbien.es/
- Sweden : St'dlinjen https://www.stodlinjen.se/#!/
- World Wide : GamblingTherapy https://www.gamblingtherapy.org/
- UK : GamCare http://www.gamcare.org.uk/
- USA : Morningside Recovery http://www.morningsiderecovery.com/

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Bitsler Support <baryom.bitsler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello sir,

Here how you faucet abused us :

- You played only with faucet after reaching enough to get one exchange, you exchanged bitcoin for DOGE.
- After that, you deposited DOGE.
- And you withdrew the full DOGE balance.

Easy to prove thanks to the logs or your stats :

0.07157954 BTC WAGERED 0.00820007 BTC PROFIT

3825.68 DOGE WAGERED 245.77 DOGE PROFIT


Fun fact, all your deposits and withdrawals was in DOGE.

End of the case.

Regards,
William


After that, I reply the email:

Hi William,

You must check all roll. The first I deposited doge. I roll and lost my doge.
I use faucet via the rule your site: level 2 allow 20 faucet per day
I roll and win. After I exchange bitcoin to doge via rule your site: "
Can I exchange from one currency to another currency on Bitsler?
Yes, you can! Go to the top right-hand side and click on the two arrows pointing away from each other? "

After that, I deposited doge. And after that, I roll gain <<--- It's normal. What's the matter is here???
I withdrew the full DOGE balance  <<--- I have full right to withdrew my coin
It's a important: I have wagered my deposited
And I question you again: What the violation on my account?
It's a clearly: bitsler scam when the player win

Can  I share my case on Twitter or Bitcoin Talk?

I feel very sad about your way of doing things.
Please reply me soon.
Slimde.


Bitsler Support <baryom.bitsler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello sir,

You can obviously share the case everywhere. I am Baryom and I am 100% sure of what I am saying.

More than 30K DOGE  deposited and 3K DOGE wagered.  Even a kid can understand what you are doing here.

Regards,
William


The shit reply of Baryom. He want to interfere my startegy. He want to play according your startegy to lose all my coin.
And I reply to s-o-b Baryom:

Hi William,

You said that: "Even a kid can understand what you are doing here."
But I still not understand : What the violation on my account?
I read clearly your FAQ page again and again
All my action are valid via your FAQ.
Can you show me the line of FAQ page about my case?

Hope you reply me soon.
Slimde
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Bitsler Support <baryom.bitsler@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Your case is closed like a lot of players. They all confessed.

The money comes from the faucet and here the rules :

14. FAUCETS   14.1. Only for earnings from faucets, we reserve the right not to authorize withdrawals.

I will stop replying to you from now on. You are not welcome on bitsler anymore and all your future accounts will be blocked and the fund forfeited.

Regards,
William



After that, I reply the email:

Hi William,

Actually I just want to clarify my problem. You take me the rule of the money comes from the faucet:
"14. FAUCETS   14.1. Only for earnings from faucets, we reserve the right not to authorize withdrawals"  <<--- I dont see this line in Bislter's FAQ page. Can you show me the place of this rule?
And I am sure that you know : Before I withdraw, I deposited. I rooled and win more ( you can check my roll history).
After that, I withdraw my coin. The few minutes later, the admin of Bitsler ban me
The "Bitsler.com" not fare and scam the player who win the game. I will be warning the people about this site.

It is disappointing about the arbitrary behavior of the admin.
Slimde.


I screenshot my account and the FAQ page of Bitsler

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September 09, 2017, 01:09:41 AM
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Personally i've played on bitsler numerous times and have never had any issues. So they are not scam. And they have facilitated withdrawals for countless whales as well, if they were really a scam then they would have scammed them instead of denying your withdrawal.

I think that what you did was claim the faucet, play it up a bit, exchange it to doge, deposit some doge and withdraw doge with the faucet earnings.

This would be faucet abuse in my opinion because of the fact that you are not here to take risks at all. You're just here to earn money without risk, and baryom is quite strict on these. Unless i have gotten something wrong in which case please correct me.

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September 09, 2017, 01:19:00 AM
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The rule quoted above can be found in their TERMS AND CONDITIONS found at the bottom of the website. The FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) as the name says, isn't the proper place to read the terms of a website. And since you broke a rule which you agreed to, when started playing at Bitsler, the admin has the right to ban your account.

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September 09, 2017, 03:56:01 AM
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Bitsler won't ban if you weren't farming , especially with the your wagered record
they won't even bother scamming such a small account , so yeah you were farming by depositing doge and withdrawing faucet + your deposit
you broke the rules there , that's exactly what farming means
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The rule quoted above can be found in their TERMS AND CONDITIONS found at the bottom of the website. The FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) as the name says, isn't the proper place to read the terms of a website. And since you broke a rule which you agreed to, when started playing at Bitsler, the admin has the right to ban your account.
What the rule I broke? I posted FAQ of Bitsler in my topic. Can you read it and show me the rule which I broke?
"TERMS AND CONDITIONS": Only for earnings from faucets  <<---- In my case, I had deposited and Wagered. I do not broke this rule

Bitsler won't ban if you weren't farming , especially with the your wagered record
they won't even bother scamming such a small account , so yeah you were farming by depositing doge and withdrawing faucet + your deposit
you broke the rules there , that's exactly what farming means

Hey I'm not Farming? I read and understand clearly the FAQ of Bitsler about Farming:

What is faucet farming?
If a player never makes a deposit and sends his/her faucet claims between accounts in order to withdraw it, usually without ever wagering.


I had deposited and  Wagered. I didn't send any faucet claims to other user. You can ask any Mod on Bitsler "What is faucet farming?"
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September 09, 2017, 05:38:44 AM
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The thing is, you are playing on their site and they reserve the last say on matters.

Obviously even if you deposit you could be faucet farming. For instance, i could claim faucet, gamble it up to a certain amount, exchange it into doge, deposit dogecoins into my account, and get the amount from faucet for free.

This way, you are essentially avoiding the withdrawal limits for faucet, and there is no risk involved. If everyone did this then bitsler would probably go broke. Unless i got something you said completely wrong.
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September 09, 2017, 05:53:43 AM
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This is how you abused the faucet on bitlser

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Hello sir,

Here how you faucet abused us :

- You played only with faucet after reaching enough to get one exchange, you exchanged bitcoin for DOGE.
- After that, you deposited DOGE.
- And you withdrew the full DOGE balance.

Easy to prove thanks to the logs or your stats :

0.07157954 BTC WAGERED 0.00820007 BTC PROFIT

3825.68 DOGE WAGERED 245.77 DOGE PROFIT


Fun fact, all your deposits and withdrawals was in DOGE.

End of the case.

Regards,
William 

Do you think bitsler would scam their user while they always make lots of promotion?

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September 09, 2017, 06:47:48 AM
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So at the end they didn't gave you the deposit amount ? or have they ?  I mean that's the line between scammers and legit business man. You deposit amount should be given back to you and you must be barred from their soft and in case you create new accounts in result the lost of new deposits.

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September 09, 2017, 08:34:27 AM
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Hello guys,

Let me explain you this simple case. The guy only played with faucet few months and after reaching 50K, he exchanged them to DOGE. 1 minute after exchanging : he deposited some DOGE. And after that he made one or two bets of 1 or 2 DOGE.  Then withdrew the full balance. You can check the deposit timing is always just after the exchanger timing. He faucet farmed like a pig and he still owe us money. I already explained him the whole situation by email to slimde32@gmail.com but he threatened me to post here. I told him that I wasn't afraid of a faucet farmer like him.

All his deposits was in DOGE and none in BTC.

2017/Sep/04 - 13:46   876.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Sep/03 - 17:06   983.00000000 DOGE
2017/Sep/03 - 15:00   940.00000000 DOGE
2017/Sep/02 - 17:06   980.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Sep/02 - 16:49   965.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Aug/29 - 15:46   778.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Aug/23 - 16:33   767.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Aug/22 - 17:04   805.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Aug/20 - 16:49   790.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Aug/15 - 13:11   870.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Aug/13 - 08:56   800.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Aug/12 - 09:37   993.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Aug/10 - 15:11   1,111.00000000 DOGE
2017/Jul/31 - 13:14   1,160.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Jul/31 - 07:36   1,160.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Jul/30 - 12:36   1,249.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Jul/27 - 13:22   1,369.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Jul/25 - 17:25   1,390.00000000 DOGE...
2017/Jul/25 - 16:57   1,468.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Jul/24 - 13:23   1,305.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Jul/23 - 07:03   1,370.00000000 DOGE   
2017/Jul/16 - 17:08   1,300.00000000 DOGE   

total of the deposit : 23429 DOGE
DOGE WAGERED 3825.68 (stats : + 245.77 DOGE)
None deposit in BTC.
BTC WAGERED  0.07157954  (stats + 0.00820007 BTC)

Here his exchanger history

2017/Sep/04 - 13:45   0.00052847 BTC   1,172.02425131 DOGE
2017/Sep/03 - 17:05   0.00052140 BTC   1,059.98257406 DOGE
2017/Sep/03 - 14:58   0.00052570 BTC   1,068.72427921 DOGE
 2017/Sep/02 - 17:05 0.00052390 BTC   1,043.32894117 DOGE
 2017/Sep/02 - 16:48 0.00052845 BTC   1,052.39011063 DOGE
 2017/Aug/29 - 15:44 0.00052848 BTC   1,227.85816371 DOGE
 2017/Aug/23 - 16:31 0.00052800 BTC   1,227.99600000 DOGE
 2017/Aug/22 - 17:03 0.00052840 BTC   1,200.34661860 DOGE
 2017/Aug/20 - 16:48 0.00052880 BTC   1,229.85660000 DOGE
 2017/Aug/15 - 13:09 0.00052800 BTC   1,172.17800000 DOGE
 2017/Aug/12 - 09:36 0.00052804 BTC   1,011.36743647 DOGE
 2017/Aug/13 - 08:55 0.00052800 BTC   1,199.43795348 DOGE
 2017/Aug/10 - 15:09 0.00052800 BTC   904.83915789 DOGE
 2017/Jul/31 - 13:12   0.00052800 BTC   874.16664406 DOGE
 2017/Jul/31 - 07:35   0.00052800 BTC   845.50544262 DOGE
 2017/Jul/30 - 12:35   0.00052800 BTC   793.47433846 DOGE
 2017/Jul/27 - 13:21   0.00052800 BTC   736.79759999 DOGE
 2017/Jul/25 - 17:24   0.00052800 BTC   736.79759999 DOGE
 2017/Jul/25 - 16:55   0.00052800 BTC   736.79759999 DOGE
 2017/Jul/24 - 13:21   0.00052831 BTC   706.93305842 DOGE
 2017/Jul/23 - 07:02   0.00052862 BTC   679.42624381 DOGE
 2017/Jul/16 - 17:02   0.00053486 BTC   757.18734913 DOGE

Because of bad people like that, I had to change the level for the exchanger.

Hello,

We changed one exchanger rules : level 10 + for using it from now on. We did it because a lot of abusers used the exchanger to mix their abused FREE BTC with altcoins with small deposit of the altcoins. We caught a lot of abusers lately. We are sorry for the legit players.

By the way, congratulations to all the players who won a prize from the 15 BILLION bet event !  See you in 16-17 days for the 16 BILLIONTH bet !

Cheers,


End of the case.

Cheers,

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September 09, 2017, 09:34:51 AM
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Let me explain you this simple case. The guy only played with faucet few months and after reaching 50K, he exchanged them to DOGE. 1 minute after exchanging : he deposited some DOGE. And after that he made one or two bets of 1 or 2 DOGE.  Then withdrew the full balance. You can check the deposit timing is always just after the exchanger timing. He faucet farmed like a pig and he still owe us money. I already explained him the whole situation by email to slimde32@gmail.com but he threatened me to post here. I told him that I wasn't afraid of a faucet farmer like him.
So basically it's his fault that he faucet farmed ? I mean why wouldn't he if you allow him to ? Pretty smart way to make some monies if you ask me.Anyway you should be putting rules on your faucet options if this has become a trashy way to make money off your website.
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September 09, 2017, 09:43:50 AM
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I totally understand Bitsler points of view, but  I have a few questions :

1) Why instead of letting the customer knows before if you knew he has been doing this for months that's like abusing peoples time, don't get me wrong but that's what it looks like at all, you let them play til cashout time and then ban hes account ?

2) Has this customer and all others in question farming from faucet gotten their non-gambled deposit back ? I mean actually if they really gambled something it should count from their farmed coins and not towards their deposits but you haven't said anything about that.
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September 09, 2017, 10:40:25 AM
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1) Why instead of letting the customer knows before if you knew he has been doing this for months that's like abusing peoples time, don't get me wrong but that's what it looks like at all, you let them play til cashout time and then ban hes account ?
They wouldn't have thought someone could be so jobless to leech from a faucet but rate they know about the faucet leechers anyway lol Pretty sure they'll have limitations on the faucet now.

2) Has this customer and all others in question farming from faucet gotten their non-gambled deposit back ? I mean actually if they really gambled something it should count from their farmed coins and not towards their deposits but you haven't said anything about that.
Either way since there were no rules on the faucet money,I think the gamblers still deserve the win regardless of where the deposits come from.
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September 09, 2017, 03:43:19 PM
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So basically it's his fault that he faucet farmed ? I mean why wouldn't he if you allow him to ? Pretty smart way to make some monies if you ask me.Anyway you should be putting rules on your faucet options if this has become a trashy way to make money off your website.
"14. FAUCETS

14.1. Only for earnings from faucets, we reserve the right not to authorize withdrawals.

14.2 ATTENTION: Having more than 2 accounts is strictly forbidden(by person/IP/house/family). If you are found to be in violation of this rule all of your accounts will be blocked and any funds in them will be forfeited." via Bitsler T&C
There are rules that were agreed upon. Took me maybe two minutes to read through the whole of the Terms and Conditions. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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September 09, 2017, 05:22:56 PM
Last edit: September 10, 2017, 03:26:39 AM by Here4Trades
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So basically it's his fault that he faucet farmed ? I mean why wouldn't he if you allow him to ? Pretty smart way to make some monies if you ask me.Anyway you should be putting rules on your faucet options if this has become a trashy way to make money off your website.
"14. FAUCETS

14.1. Only for earnings from faucets, we reserve the right not to authorize withdrawals.

14.2 ATTENTION: Having more than 2 accounts is strictly forbidden(by person/IP/house/family). If you are found to be in violation of this rule all of your accounts will be blocked and any funds in them will be forfeited." via Bitsler T&C
There are rules that were agreed upon. Took me maybe two minutes to read through the whole of the Terms and Conditions. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I read them, still they should give them back their deposit for spending long time over their software and then restrict the player from playing from X time or forever, I just my thought I'm not saying that is what they are going to do.
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I have played bitsler for almost 1 year and I didn't face any problem.
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September 17, 2017, 07:30:52 PM
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Had the similar problem. When I went in "cash" this way I did not realise that broke the rules of the site. Even after have a look through the rules I still believe that the situation is not covered. Think it is worst to make a specific addition to the rules regarding that as the current provision is not evident enough for getting clear understanding of rules violation. Don't get me wrong, it is not a complaint, but the view of a player who had not any intention to make a violation. Believe this step only makes bitsler more transparent and credible.     

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September 17, 2017, 08:08:00 PM
Last edit: September 18, 2017, 08:05:10 AM by Baryom
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Had the similar problem. When I went in "cash" this way I did not realise that broke the rules of the site. Even after have a look through the rules I still believe that the situation is not covered. Think it is worst to make a specific addition to the rules regarding that as the current provision is not evident enough for getting clear understanding of rules violation. Don't get me wrong, it is not a complaint, but the view of a player who had not any intention to make a violation. Believe this step only makes bitsler more transparent and credible.    

Hello,

Because a picture is worth a thousand words :

https://i.gyazo.com/dfa1fea54f422ba9c42cc8a34d2fc595.png

You made 2 withdrawals from the free btc without any deposits. Bitsler is a gambling website, it is not a faucet website. The idea of a gambling website is that a player and the owner of the casino both take risks, and the luckier win the coins. If you don't take any risks to make money, you are not following the rules. Keep that logic in mind. But it is really important to understand that we let a lot of players withdraw from the faucet every single day.
e.g a player played with his deposit and lost. He win back from the faucet why playing like an human (I am reviewing the bets before taking my decision obviously) in the next weeks, I will never block his withdrawals from the faucet.

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September 18, 2017, 12:44:17 AM
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Bitsler won't ban if you weren't farming , especially with the your wagered record
they won't even bother scamming such a small account , so yeah you were farming by depositing doge and withdrawing faucet + your deposit
you broke the rules there , that's exactly what farming means

Why have a faucet if you are not allowed to take the money out ?
Yeah scam site. Roll Eyes

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September 18, 2017, 01:58:16 PM
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I never understood the rules of these gambling sites. We allow you to do things, but if you do them we will ban you and take your coins.

I see this on many platforms.

Multiple accounts, bonus issues, this faucet thing, double spend attempts...

There are ways to prevent all of this, and yet they don't.

They can detect multiple accounts, but they allow you to make them. 
They allow you to wager without having deposited funds in the account to wager with (so double spending is possible)
This faucet farm thing I dont really get, but why have it if it can be abused unless its to honey pot players in to getting caught up in it?


With all this stuff, I would never gamble with any of these sites... too many ways the house can screw you over and you have no recourse.
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September 18, 2017, 03:03:31 PM
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Bitsler won't ban if you weren't farming , especially with the your wagered record
they won't even bother scamming such a small account , so yeah you were farming by depositing doge and withdrawing faucet + your deposit
you broke the rules there , that's exactly what farming means

Why have a faucet if you are not allowed to take the money out ?
Yeah scam site. Roll Eyes
I believe you can access bitsler.com so enter here and read rules, it's very easy and such questions won't be asked.
Ohh, Bitsler is scam? Really? And can you tell me who was scammed? No one? Then just don't write lies.....
I don't say this because I promote them here, this website is really popular and if there was something wrong, it was always fixed. Baryom puts a lot of job in support and it's unfair to call them scammers when no one was scammed.

I never understood the rules of these gambling sites. We allow you to do things, but if you do them we will ban you and take your coins.

I see this on many platforms.

Multiple accounts, bonus issues, this faucet thing, double spend attempts...

There are ways to prevent all of this, and yet they don't.

They can detect multiple accounts, but they allow you to make them. 
They allow you to wager without having deposited funds in the account to wager with (so double spending is possible)
This faucet farm thing I dont really get, but why have it if it can be abused unless its to honey pot players in to getting caught up in it?


With all this stuff, I would never gamble with any of these sites... too many ways the house can screw you over and you have no recourse.

Here is faucet to test how dice works, it's not ultimate profit source. For example you are new and want to test how things work, try faucet and you will learn how to play. If you lose money and want a little fun, try faucets. But if you only play with faucets and want to get profit from it, then you deserve what you get finally, locking withdraw. It's said in rules that faucet won't be used for that.

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