Should Bitcoin form a freedom fighters army?

[BTCLuke]

Dude, you're retarded.

Don't be so crude!

It's now politically correct to refer to his type as "herbally stunted."

[Loozik]

we need an army.

Out of curiosity, who is ''we''?

apparently not you, filthy infidel.

Now I am beginning to understand what this army is for. It's for fighting infidels. Not just any infidels, those filthy ones! 

[marcus_of_augustus]

... now recruiting for freedom army of cyber-warriors.

[Vycid]

There's actually a terrorist group on the darknet accepting bitcoin as donations...

Ugh, really? That's disappointing. Can't say I'm surprised, though.

Shit like this really hurts Bitcoin's public image. You guys can say whatever you like about how it's inevitable, and how it could be done with fiat, but in the end people will die as a result of the actions of this group, and I'd really have preferred it if Bitcoin hadn't played a role.

Oh well, what can you do.

[pwi]

If you mean by an army of educated, informed citizens... then yeah I like the idea...

Be all you can be! Know your rights and responsibilities as a Citizen! Do you know what your countries constitution and bill of rights means to you?

We can setup vast re-education centers, to prepare regular citizens military style to know all the implications of the highest law of their land... the constitution. Well train them to fight in court, to use government services correctly and form networks of support teams for members in legal trouble.

well give them hell! and we can even form lobby groups to fund fellow Bitcon militia members to run for office!

I envision a world where a crack team of Bitcoin activists, lawyers, programmers, network administrators start forming supply lines of information and resources to make this world a better world for the values that Bitcoin stands for, FREEDOM!!

Open Source mesh networks deployed across the country, giving free access to the internet and the information that it provides.

Allowing members access to exclusive second hand hardware that other Bitcoin Army members no longer need.

Giving them the latest information open source style to all members all at once.

the latest gadgetry, services and DIY schematics to get their supply lines operational for networking, legal council, just imagine a court room packed with 1 million members all accessing the legal database of laws to help a member in trouble, acting as their council in court!

for every member that falls in action, we can take the information they had, distribute it to all members and devise new tactics with increased probability of success.

If we get big enough world wide we can start launching our own communication satellites to broadcast free internet across the globe; A global network of satellites with terabyte internet for all the bitcoin network to use, wherever they are, if they are in New York or the middle of the Savannah in Africa, they'll be able to connect.

Who knows maybe we can even start forming more complex services and deploy them worldwide using encryption technology gained from Bitcoin, so we never ever see the dreaded 112% vote error, no one will ever be able to vote twice anywhere in the world. Just imagine... your trying to fudge the vote, you get flagged, citizen are you aware that the key you just entered to vote is for someone who is already dead? not only that but the records would be immutable so if your listed as being born... that private key is yours forever and if the record says that private key belongs to someone who's dead... they can't vote. only listed people with valid encryption keys can vote.

Pretty sweet post. No court can rule on individual liberty; at least not my own liberty so long as it does not infringe on others' liberties.

If I agree with 51% of what you wrote, can I still get in? Or would that require a hard fork? 

[endlessdark]

[yocko06]

bahaha! this wI'll make a funny skit on Tosh .0

[jdbtracker]

Citizen, you are already part of the revolution. It's still early to gain the programs and skills you need to make a difference.

Download this for freedom...

Freenet  https://freenetproject.org/  Distributed encryption program(it's ugly right now in there so don't go clicking wildly on any links... seriously! it needs better content.)

TOR https://www.torproject.org/ a encrypted communication program

I2P http://www.i2p2.de/ another encrypted communication program, basic routing anonymizer, very fast and allows you to create your own DarkWeb site.

Tails https://tails.boum.org/about/ Live CD secure linux operating system loadable onto a usb. preconfigured to anonymize you.

YaCy http://yacy.net/en/index.html a personal p2p search engine, it can index sites that google does not, still in it's infancy, works out of the box but difficult to properly setup right now. you can index your site for public consumption.

Taxati http://www.tixati.com/ For encrypted p2p torrent downloading.

FileZilla https://filezilla-project.org/ a open source ftp client/server

Bitmessage https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page  a decentralized messaging service based on Bitcoin

OpenVoip http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~salman/peer/0_2.html  download the wengo file, this is a p2p phone call application.

Hyperboria http://hyperboria.net/ the beginnings of a free internet, a mesh network with the possibility of being built separate from the existing internet infrastructure: it's a wireless node mesh network.

RSSowl http://www.rssowl.org/ a open source news reader great for staying informed on worldwide events straight from the regional news sites, even alerts you when things that are in your interest to know are being discussed by the media.

sites:

http://hackaday.com/

http://www.instructables.com/ 

http://lifehacker.com/

http://gizmodo.com/tag/diy

http://www.afrigadget.com/

http://sourceforge.net/

https://github.com/

http://wikileaks.org/ Stay informed!

and the rest is up to you, learn your rights and responsibilities as a citizen. Find out what government programs there are that are meant to help you communicate better with the government, stay involved,stay informed; These are fellow citizens with limitations that only we can help to make better decisions by providing our input.

most of the government programs that are in our interest to support are underfunded and difficult to find, we can only make it better.

ONLY you can stop social corruption.

[BTCLuke]

You missed these:

Jitsi - https://jitsi.org - Encrypting all your online communications in one client (Very nice)

Crypto Cat - https://crypto.cat - Like IRC chat rooms, but all totally encrypted

Project Byzantium - http://project-byzantium.org - Ad hoc mesh networking



On the topic of mesh networking, I think the 1 ingredient that's really missing from replacing the internet is a new wifi spec that supports more range... The OLPC laptops they've been giving out for years already show a decent amount of ad-hoc range but it's clearly not enough to cover a big city without every user online.

[TippingPoint]

On the topic of mesh networking, I think the 1 ingredient that's really missing from replacing the internet is a new wifi spec that supports more range... The OLPC laptops they've been giving out for years already show a decent amount of ad-hoc range but it's clearly not enough to cover a big city without every user online.

Can WiFi Mesh Networking gaps be bridged with wireless or even land phone lines?  Resurrection of modems?

[BTCLuke]

Can WiFi Mesh Networking gaps be bridged with wireless or even land phone lines?  Resurrection of modems?

To a degree. It depends on the situation.

If we're just trying to start a fully seperate mesh network in today's world, then yes, certainly landline wires can connect across the vast spaces. Cell towers too, of course. (And ham radio, and satellite, and CB, and tin cans with a string, etc.)

The problem comes however when the guvmints decide that it's illegal to use the internetz without one of their approved ISPs being your on-ramp. Under that scenario, which isn't really that far fetched at all, some alphabet agency will be watching for exactly this and even encrypted packets will look out of place enough for them to stop/block/make arrests.

So to really get the dead zones alive, it looks like either sending up our own satellites, or perhaps laying secret cables between towns is the only way to keep the free web up and running.

I think the satellite route is probably best for that need. There are millions of satellites in orbit now put up by hundreds of different nations. Surely we could put up some undetected ones among that space junk debris field with a bit of backing.

[marcus_of_augustus]

You missed these:

Jitsi - https://jitsi.org - Encrypting all your online communications in one client (Very nice)

Crypto Cat - https://crypto.cat - Like IRC chat rooms, but all totally encrypted

Project Byzantium - http://project-byzantium.org - Ad hoc mesh networking

On the topic of mesh networking, I think the 1 ingredient that's really missing from replacing the internet is a new wifi spec that supports more range... The OLPC laptops they've been giving out for years already show a decent amount of ad-hoc range but it's clearly not enough to cover a big city without every user online.

cjdns
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cjdns

[Blueberry408]

There's actually a terrorist group on the darknet accepting bitcoin as donations...

Isn't that how they secretly hire agents from Blackwater? I KNEW IT ALL ALONG!!

[Blueberry408]

You missed these:

Jitsi - https://jitsi.org - Encrypting all your online communications in one client (Very nice)

Crypto Cat - https://crypto.cat - Like IRC chat rooms, but all totally encrypted

Project Byzantium - http://project-byzantium.org - Ad hoc mesh networking

On the topic of mesh networking, I think the 1 ingredient that's really missing from replacing the internet is a new wifi spec that supports more range... The OLPC laptops they've been giving out for years already show a decent amount of ad-hoc range but it's clearly not enough to cover a big city without every user online.

cjdns
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cjdns

Long Term Evolution, at least that's the plan.

[Razick]

No, we should work democratically within the Constitutional system to enact positive change. It may be harder than a revolution, but it is the right thing to do.

Flamers: Quote this message and post your long and insulting responses below.  

[Stampbit]

Are you really asking if a bunch of computer geeks should step outside into bright sunlight and be social? ahahaahaha welcome to the armchair revolution.

[BTCLuke]

No, we should work democratically within the Constitutional system to enact positive change. It may be harder than a revolution, but it is the right thing to do.

Flamers: Quote this message and post your long and insulting responses below.  

Is that the best you can troll?

Back in my day, Trolling used to mean something!

[tvbcof]

Can WiFi Mesh Networking gaps be bridged with wireless or even land phone lines?  Resurrection of modems?

To a degree. It depends on the situation.

If we're just trying to start a fully seperate mesh network in today's world, then yes, certainly landline wires can connect across the vast spaces. Cell towers too, of course. (And ham radio, and satellite, and CB, and tin cans with a string, etc.)

The problem comes however when the guvmints decide that it's illegal to use the internetz without one of their approved ISPs being your on-ramp. Under that scenario, which isn't really that far fetched at all, some alphabet agency will be watching for exactly this and even encrypted packets will look out of place enough for them to stop/block/make arrests.

So to really get the dead zones alive, it looks like either sending up our own satellites, or perhaps laying secret cables between towns is the only way to keep the free web up and running.

I think the satellite route is probably best for that need. There are millions of satellites in orbit now put up by hundreds of different nations. Surely we could put up some undetected ones among that space junk debris field with a bit of backing.

Atlas lives!

[BTCLuke]

Atlas lives!

Now that's proper trolling!

You're not going to be laughing when Obomba signs an executive order to come after bitcoin directly... To do that he'll have to have greater control over the ISPs... If not federal control.  

[tvbcof]

Atlas lives!

Now that's proper trolling!

You're not going to be laughing when Obomba signs an executive order to come after bitcoin directly... To do that he'll have to have greater control over the ISPs... If not federal control.  

It's a little unclear what, if anything, you are saying.  But whatever it is, I don't imagine that sharks with lasers are going to help you much.