Should Bitcoin form a freedom fighters army?

[QuestionAuthority]

OP I'd like to help you with this whole army thing but I'm in training to be a libertarian. The first part of my training requires that I be a complete gutless pussy that peacefully protests until I get dragged off by the police. The second phase of my training begins when I graduate from college and find out I can make a shit ton of money then sell-out and join the republican party. So I wouldn't be much help really. Sorry!

[bitcryptonit]

i vote for friendly image of bitcoin, most people still believe governent is good for them so they will not understand why are we fighting. we should be smarter than gov and banks and blow them up from inside.

[Operatr]

We already are freedom fighters. I'm doing what I'm doing to help liberate us from a tyrannical and sick money system that has caused untold misery in the world for generations.

[Razick]

No, we should work democratically within the Constitutional system to enact positive change. It may be harder than a revolution, but it is the right thing to do.

Flamers: Quote this message and post your long and insulting responses below.  

Is that the best you can troll?

Back in my day, Trolling used to mean something!

I'm not trolling, I am serious. Things may be pretty screwed up, but I still believe in this country (USA).

[puffpuffpass]

We already are freedom fighters. I'm doing what I'm doing to help liberate us from a tyrannical and sick money system that has caused untold misery in the world for generations.

hate to bust your bubble but adopting Bitcoin does not do any of that, if anything it is a major contributor to worldwide tyranny. I would even go as far as saying it seals the deal.

[jdbtracker]

You missed these:

Jitsi - https://jitsi.org - Encrypting all your online communications in one client (Very nice)

Crypto Cat - https://crypto.cat - Like IRC chat rooms, but all totally encrypted

Project Byzantium - http://project-byzantium.org - Ad hoc mesh networking



On the topic of mesh networking, I think the 1 ingredient that's really missing from replacing the internet is a new wifi spec that supports more range... The OLPC laptops they've been giving out for years already show a decent amount of ad-hoc range but it's clearly not enough to cover a big city without every user online.

Yeah those are good ones, are there anymore useful or interesting ones available?

the specs for a wireless network are tricky, we can get more range using better wireless message protocols, but man, that is some serious work for it to be difficult to detect, I was thinking maybe 4fsk modulation, very effective in obstacle heavy areas. If it's wireless I'll try to do some research.

We all believe in freedom, we simply are experimenting for the rest of the population, can we be more free when we have true control of our money? I can't imagine someone in merchant era europe being denied the use of their gold cause  they don't like the way they think... they'd accept the gold no matter what, things changed recently... money controls, import duties... something that Adam Smith proved was a really bad thing 300 years ago... the industrial revolution happened because of his revolutionary book; The wealth of nations.  How the hell did this happen?

And we can't forget that we are carrying this freedom to everyone that is extremely repressed like in Burma, China, North Korea, Syria, we may very well be giving anyone with a cell phone the right to bypass any government controls imposed on them, Are terrorist, drug dealers using this, or is there the possibility that Freedom Fighters, Doctors and activists are using it to bypass opresive state controls? Observing the adoption of Bitcoin in those countries will be the proof of the effect of true monetary freedom.

[tvbcof]

Yeah those are good ones, are there anymore useful or interesting ones available?

http://steghide.sourceforge.net/

the specs for a wireless network are tricky, we can get more range using better wireless message protocols, but man, that is some serious work for it to be difficult to detect, I was thinking maybe 4fsk modulation, very effective in obstacle heavy areas. If it's wireless I'll try to do some research.

Something along the lines of the above could allow utilization of 'the enemies' resources which will always be healthy and robust and NOT under attack.  But for a realistic way to do long-range wifi:

https://www.usenix.org/conference/nsdi-07/wildnet-design-and-implementation-high-performance-wifi-based-long-distance

[TippingPoint]

Yeah those are good ones, are there anymore useful or interesting ones available?

http://steghide.sourceforge.net/

the specs for a wireless network are tricky, we can get more range using better wireless message protocols, but man, that is some serious work for it to be difficult to detect, I was thinking maybe 4fsk modulation, very effective in obstacle heavy areas. If it's wireless I'll try to do some research.

Something along the lines of the above could allow utilization of 'the enemies' resources which will always be healthy and robust and NOT under attack.  But for a realistic way to do long-range wifi:

https://www.usenix.org/conference/nsdi-07/wildnet-design-and-implementation-high-performance-wifi-based-long-distance

The primary cost gains arise from the use of low-cost and low-power single-board computers and high-volume low-cost off-the-shelf 802.11 (WiFi) wireless cards using unlicensed spectrum. The nodes are also lightweight and don’t need expensive towers. These networks are very different from the short-range multi-hop urban mesh networks. Unlike mesh networks, which use omnidirectional antennas to cater to short ranges (less than 1–2 km at most), WiLD networks are comprised of point-topoint wireless links that use high-gain directional antennas (e.g. 24 dBi, 8◦ beam-width) with line of sight (LOS) over long distances (10–100 km).
http://static.usenix.org/event/nsdi07/tech/full_papers/patra/patra.pdf

The key factors that distinguish WiLDNet from 2P and the stock 802.11 (WiFi) protocol are:
1. Improving link utilization using bulk acknowledgments
2. Designing TDMA in lossy environments
3. Handling high packet loss rates
4. Application-based parameter configuration

[BTCLuke]

i vote for friendly image of bitcoin, most people still believe governent is good for them so they will not understand why are we fighting. we should be smarter than gov and banks and blow them up from inside.

Very true. If we want a free world, and people who don't understand what freedom is are standing in our way, then we have no choice but to lead by example.

We already are freedom fighters. I'm doing what I'm doing to help liberate us from a tyrannical and sick money system that has caused untold misery in the world for generations.

Here here!

It makes me sad for people like tbvcof & PuffPuffPass who are among us but obviously can't see the true beauty in bitcoin.

I'm not trolling, I am serious. Things may be pretty screwed up, but I still believe in this country (USA).

So you actually believe that "working democratically within the Constitutional system to enact positive change" is possible?

You have figured out that the USA (like most other countries) only has a 1-party system, right?

If not, why are you here?

hate to bust your bubble but adopting Bitcoin does not do any of that, if anything it is a major contributor to worldwide tyranny. I would even go as far as saying it seals the deal.

Oh this ought to be good... Let's hear your comedic interpretation of how bitcoin is helping our evil overlords do more evil.  

 But for a realistic way to do long-range wifi:

https://www.usenix.org/conference/nsdi-07/wildnet-design-and-implementation-high-performance-wifi-based-long-distance

Most of your posts to date have tempted me to put you on my ignore list... But this one link has granted you at least 100 more posts of safety. Thank you, it is some good stuff.

[tvbcof]

 But for a realistic way to do long-range wifi:

https://www.usenix.org/conference/nsdi-07/wildnet-design-and-implementation-high-performance-wifi-based-long-distance

Most of your posts to date have tempted me to put you on my ignore list... But this one link has granted you at least 100 more posts of safety. Thank you, it is some good stuff.

Ha, ya.  We are ultimately on the same side if/when the shit hits the fan.  But that doesn't mean we cannot have a little fun in the interim

[Operatr]

We already are freedom fighters. I'm doing what I'm doing to help liberate us from a tyrannical and sick money system that has caused untold misery in the world for generations.

hate to bust your bubble but adopting Bitcoin does not do any of that, if anything it is a major contributor to worldwide tyranny. I would even go as far as saying it seals the deal.

I didn't realize at the time this was another one of your troll threads...

[jdbtracker]

I just enjoy it, I realized it a long time ago. lol

[puffpuffpass]

But for a realistic way to do long-range wifi:

https://www.usenix.org/conference/nsdi-07/wildnet-design-and-implementation-high-performance-wifi-based-long-distance

Most of your posts to date have tempted me to put you on my ignore list... But this one link has granted you at least 100 more posts of safety. Thank you, it is some good stuff.

Ha, ya.  We are ultimately on the same side if/when the shit hits the fan.  But that doesn't mean we cannot have a little fun in the interim

hope you two enjoy the cancer you get from that all those radio waves.