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September 12, 2017, 06:57:26 PM
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After much debate in the last week between if Electroneum could pull off producing the first safe, sucessful coin to be mined on mobile phones, their dev just posted this today.

As for the mobile mining, do you have dater in regards to sustainability? Could it destroy the phone over time? Or is the load the phone has to cope with reasonable?



The mobile app is centralized and runs off a twin algorithm that emits coins from the blockchain at approximately the same rate as the full miners based on a CPU benchmark of the phone. This allows the phone to run without getting hot and without using tons of power and bandwidth that previous attempts at phone mining have needed. But remember, they are not bringing blockchain utility, they are bringing a different utility - they are bringing on users at a ridiculously low CPA, and allowing Electroneum to have viral growth.

We’ve combined a decentralized blockchain with a centralized viral marketing app, that encourages the adoption and accumulation of cryptocurrency through “gamifying” the experience. We call it the Mobile Mining Experience. Our blockchain emits coins to our mobile app users for bring a different utility to the blockchain. Electroneum full miners earn the most coins and that runs on Windows, Linux and Mac computers. They bring the utility of blockchain administration and are rewarded with Electroneum coins. The mobile miners bring the utility of viral marketing to Electroneum and are awarded with a number (smaller) of Electroneum coins for doing so. It's done in a way that encourages app usage. We've essentially gamified the mining experience, making it appeal to mobile computer gamers (there are over 2 billion of them!).






I myself dont see much of a problem with them having a central processor. Iota brought returns in the thousands of percents and they have a central part called the "coordinator" they use as well.


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We know electroeum needs to be accessible to people mining on mobile phones. We all know the result so far, its horrible. They have figured out a way to do this by having a specialized algo and a processor. The people mining with their computers  cpu on the main algo will be powering the blockchain. This means it is still decentrailzed.

Some people may complain that it has a centralized componet to the mobile miners, but it doesnt bother me. Im here with what I see as cryptos first chance to really be taken to the masses. We see they have the tech innovation necessary to come thru on their claims to take mining a cryptocurrency to 2 billion users of mobile devices.

It also cant be cloned as easily, or the innovation stolen with it needing a central processor as well.

They are powerhouse marketers, and now that these guys have added gaming to it as well, they will easily penetrate the market with this.

You can say its not decentralized enough for you, but I think someone would be hard pressed to say this is going to lose you money buying in at $.0067.

With the app downloads reaching just 5 million users, which is low in that industry, it would have far above the amount of users as Bitcoin. This you bought for $.0067 and Bitcoin is valued at $4000++. There will be many LEVELS of those buying and selling as the price establishes itself, which call me crazy, but with:

A. An innovativation in cryptocurrency by being first to sucessfully take effectiive mining mobile.

B. Have the product finished at the time of crowdsale

C. Have top of the line, ultra rich, real world marketers behind it.

these things make it pretty hard NOT to go up.

Ive seen much, much more, done with way, way less here.








Ladies and gentleman, I am very, very bullish on this after learning about it in the last few weeks. I agree with blackwidow on this. What do you think? Have they gone too far to produce a mobile miner that wont ruin your phone?






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September 13, 2017, 01:13:31 AM
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No, its mostly there so no one can steal the idea, or everycoin would be mobile minimg
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September 13, 2017, 01:35:30 AM
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That doesnt have as much bearing on price as it used to.

The most important thing is transparency, and Electroneum has zero premine for devs
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September 13, 2017, 03:14:08 AM
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Agreed it is a step too far, but is an important & needed step at this stage for crypto currency in general to move up the scale. Kudo to Electroneum team !!! Cheesy
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September 13, 2017, 11:16:55 AM
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That doesnt have as much bearing on price as it used to.

The most important thing is transparency, and Electroneum has zero premine for devs



Premine is .00095% of total coins.

None of that is for the devs, this tiny fraction is for bounties
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September 13, 2017, 01:54:23 PM
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10 hours left till ICO guys!!!
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September 13, 2017, 02:45:13 PM
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Im putting in 20 BTC to this
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September 13, 2017, 02:47:17 PM
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Will it be possible to send btc directly from bittrex to participate in the ico ?
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September 13, 2017, 03:13:50 PM
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Will it be possible to send btc directly from bittrex to participate in the ico ?

Never ever do this. You dont have the private key of your BTC on Bittrex. Just send them to a wallet and then send them to Electroneum.
I will also spend 10 BTC on this ICO.

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September 13, 2017, 04:32:12 PM
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Wow, not too long left. 8 hours till crowdsale
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September 13, 2017, 04:46:33 PM
Last edit: September 27, 2017, 06:12:58 AM by BlackWidow
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THIS GOES ON SALE AT MIDNIGHT UTC

READ THIS, AND READ THEIR THREAD OR YOU WONT BE HAPPY.


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Electroneum is a new cryptocurrency designed for the 2 billion + smart phone users.
Mobile Mining, Easy Transfers, Online and Offline Wallets.

EXCITING NEWS!!

Duncan Logan just tweeted that he's on board the Electroneum ICO!

https://twitter.com/duncanlogan/status/899754013574311936

Duncan is the CEO of RocketSpace! They have nurtured more than 16 unicorns in the tech world (companies valued at over $1 billion) including Uber & Spotify

So excited to have him on board the ICO!

Details below....







Bounty Program
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I have a member who is going to kindly QUOTE this message to ensure the images appear until our "electroneum" user reaches the required level.




Go to their thread, and dont miss the ICO everybody
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September 14, 2017, 06:41:46 PM
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Heres another discussion about electroneum.
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September 14, 2017, 10:54:22 PM
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I think its fine because the blockchain is still dencentralized.

Only the app is centralized. That also means no one can copy it Wink
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September 15, 2017, 03:52:54 AM
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http://financemagnates.com/thought-leadership/industry-poised-welcome-newest-cryptocurrency-electroneum/
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September 15, 2017, 12:36:26 PM
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Electroneum:
The really busy - super fun - group of AWESOME Electroneum chat is here : https://t.me/joinchat/DxoSakHOdk5mqsE-LelfVg



This is pretty cool. No one seems to be too worried about the app being centralized because the blockchain is still decentralized
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September 17, 2017, 09:28:44 AM
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We picked up about 100 new people over at Telegram just yest.

http://financemagnates.com/thought-leadership/industry-poised-welcome-newest-cryptocurrency-electroneum/.m
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September 25, 2017, 06:12:08 AM
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Turns out the centralized app on a decentralized blockchain is the perfect solution

https://youtu.be/JZ8UfHG5vVw

Watch this, mindblown
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September 26, 2017, 04:38:39 AM
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Turns out the centralized app on a decentralized blockchain is the perfect solution

https://youtu.be/JZ8UfHG5vVw

Watch this, mindblown


Yes the blockchain is decentralized, but the App is NOT and is not opensource for just the App.

This is added protection for largers investors like me.

It cant be copied or stolen.

They explain HOW they do in the video interview with the dev, but you would need a very talented team to try to recreate what they have made.

It works!!
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September 26, 2017, 05:05:47 AM
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Will it be possible to send btc directly from bittrex to participate in the ico ?

Never ever do this. You dont have the private key of your BTC on Bittrex. Just send them to a wallet and then send them to Electroneum.
I will also spend 10 BTC on this ICO.

on the eletroneum website the guide says to send it straight from an exchange wallet. i think once the ICO is done you can just withdraw it to any address of your choosing
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September 26, 2017, 10:22:44 AM
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They have only raised a million dollars
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