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September 13, 2017, 08:54:37 AM
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Has the china ban been confirmed yet by its government as I can't see anything?

These rumour tweets should be banned by Twitter as they can be false or incorrect.

When will this china ban FUD fade away?

If there really is a china ban then how long does it take for the chinese government to pass and implement this law?

Just to confirm its chinese exchanges only? Mostly all exchanges are online so does that mean chinese exchanges can bypass this ban law by moving their websites out of chinese servers onto western servers where the ban does not apply?
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Just trying to catch up here and I see that the price of everything dropped +/- 10% overnight. To what tweet are you referring?

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September 13, 2017, 09:08:07 AM
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Just trying to catch up here and I see that the price of everything dropped +/- 10% overnight. To what tweet are you referring?

It's not about the China exchange ban. I believe it has caused due to the statement of the JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon. he has referred that bitcoin is a scam bigger than Tulip Bubble and that caused panic around the market. If you are not following, here is the link below for you.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-12/jpmorgan-s-ceo-says-he-d-fire-traders-who-bet-on-fraud-bitcoin

I don't see any reason for worry because Jamie is a mainstream banker who is getting worried about the popularity of bitcoin. Their business is geeting damaged by bitcoin because a lot of billion dollars are in-flowing in to it instead of going to the mainstream bankers.

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September 13, 2017, 09:10:08 AM
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Has the china ban been confirmed yet by its government as I can't see anything?

These rumour tweets should be banned by Twitter as they can be false or incorrect.

When will this china ban FUD fade away?

If there really is a china ban then how long does it take for the chinese government to pass and implement this law?

Just to confirm its chinese exchanges only? Mostly all exchanges are online so does that mean chinese exchanges can bypass this ban law by moving their websites out of chinese servers onto western servers where the ban does not apply?

It will definitely take some time to pass and implement laws regarding cryptocurrencies that too in a communist country like China. The amount of uncertainty is still large and this is causing a discrepancy to the price of Bitcoin from over a few weeks now. From another angle, it looks like a group is trying to spread the FUD and take advantage of what is going to happen next. In other words, they are trying to buy in when the price hits lows due to the chaos that is being created.

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September 13, 2017, 09:10:35 AM
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Just trying to catch up here and I see that the price of everything dropped +/- 10% overnight. To what tweet are you referring?

Probably the tweet by litecoin creator charlie lee saying he thinks news about china exchanges being shut down is correct.  We really dont need china trolling us going forward so maybe its for the best.  The value of bitcoin doesn't come from china exchanges though that is for sure. Also, other options will be put in place no doubt.

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September 13, 2017, 09:16:23 AM
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These rumour tweets should be banned by Twitter as they can be false or incorrect.

Lol. You can't ban idiots with free speech. You can't do anything about idiotic panic sellers either but I wish people would learn to remain calm. Most of the crashes seem to be down to just the faintest whiff of bad news whether true or not then people panic en masse. Bitcoin will bounce back though with time.


When will this china ban FUD fade away?

Never. Its almost become a bitcoin meme but if it wasn't China it would be something else.

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September 13, 2017, 09:16:38 AM
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just enjoy the discounts that the weak hands are giving you. even if the news about China is not a big fat lie, it won't matter in the long term. in a week or so from today price will be up above what you buy today and in a longer term such as next year you will be blaming yourself about why you haven't acted on this opportunity to buy cheaper coins while you still could afford it.

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Holy Cow! Coming from Jamie Dimon that really puts a smile on my face, thanks for the heads up I missed JP Mogan part.

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September 13, 2017, 09:24:15 AM
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Just trying to catch up here and I see that the price of everything dropped +/- 10% overnight. To what tweet are you referring?

Probably the tweet by litecoin creator charlie lee saying he thinks news about china exchanges being shut down is correct.  

People think the Jamie Dimon "fraud" comments are to blame, and maybe they partly are. But I think Jihan Wu and Charlie Lee deserve the most credit. Both came out today sounding very confident that the Chinese exchanges were about to be shut down.

Oddly enough, Charlie Lee deleted the tweet. The question is why? Was it because it was bad information? Or because he didn't want to be construed as manipulating the market with baseless rumors?

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September 13, 2017, 09:27:34 AM
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Just trying to catch up here and I see that the price of everything dropped +/- 10% overnight. To what tweet are you referring?

It's not about the China exchange ban. I believe it has caused due to the statement of the JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon. he has referred that bitcoin is a scam bigger than Tulip Bubble and that caused panic around the market. If you are not following, here is the link below for you.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-12/jpmorgan-s-ceo-says-he-d-fire-traders-who-bet-on-fraud-bitcoin

I don't see any reason for worry because Jamie is a mainstream banker who is getting worried about the popularity of bitcoin. Their business is geeting damaged by bitcoin because a lot of billion dollars are in-flowing in to it instead of going to the mainstream bankers.

So finally the tweet from the JP Morgan CEO has managed to put Bitcoin below the $4,000 mark? Right now the exchange rate is around $3,980 per coin in Coinbase. And regarding Jamie Dimon, if I remember correctly, he is the same guy who misused close to $25 billion in Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) funds from the United States government. Some of the critics claimed that he received the funds in return for his support for the Democratic candidates.

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September 13, 2017, 10:11:08 AM
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Many of us are accusing China even my self for closing exchanges rumors. This can be a part of BCC team plan to kill BTC. What do you think?

Has the china ban been confirmed yet by its government as I can't see anything?

These rumour tweets should be banned by Twitter as they can be false or incorrect.

When will this china ban FUD fade away?

If there really is a china ban then how long does it take for the chinese government to pass and implement this law?

Just to confirm its chinese exchanges only? Mostly all exchanges are online so does that mean chinese exchanges can bypass this ban law by moving their websites out of chinese servers onto western servers where the ban does not apply?

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Seems like another FUD to me. They even deleted the tweets. If China truly intend to shut down exchanges, could it be that they are waiting for the prices to fall down first so they can buy? I mean, assuming the mines remain untouched, that would mean the Chinese government would be holding a huge amount of bitcoin after this, since the citizens would be coming out to sell their bitcoins for yuans before the exchanges close.



               
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Well not only a tweet can influence prices but social media and news in general can greatly affect the prices of any investment. That is how a catalyst work it starts as a trigger for assets that are mostly in consolidation mode. This news can trigger people especially the big holders of Bitcoin to sell their shares to profit from it which most likely start a panic selling made by late sellers.

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September 13, 2017, 11:12:28 AM
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Has the china ban been confirmed yet by its government as I can't see anything?

These rumour tweets should be banned by Twitter as they can be false or incorrect.

When will this china ban FUD fade away?

If there really is a china ban then how long does it take for the chinese government to pass and implement this law?

Just to confirm its chinese exchanges only? Mostly all exchanges are online so does that mean chinese exchanges can bypass this ban law by moving their websites out of chinese servers onto western servers where the ban does not apply?

It is not just the tweet of the china ban. And that already happen since days ago and the market already have experience a drop in about 20-30%. For today news, it is about the JP morgan claiming that bitcoin is a fraud and he would fire any employees if they get into bitcoin. This definitely create some level of FUD as JP morgan is considered to be one of the largest financial investments fund.

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September 13, 2017, 12:09:45 PM
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Ok to summarise:

We got some banker from JP Morgan with FUD

Charlie Lee Litecoin creator with FUD

China banning ICO's FUD

China banning exchanges FUD


Anything else I missed?

With all these different types of FUD's in a short space of time it does this seem like a coordinated attack on bitcoin. It cant be by coincidence that all these FUD's happen in a short space of time. Charlie Lee is for Cryptos unlike fiat bankers so don't understand his position  Huh

With Segwit 2x in november and if the motives of the above FUDer's were price manipulation then surely they should already know about november segwit 2x and that will bring the price down anyway. So why couldn't the above FUDers wait till november segwit 2x for cheap coins if the FUD's are really about price manipulation?

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September 13, 2017, 12:12:01 PM
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Famous celebrities often tend to have a lot of followers on their social media accounts. People are there who trust them blindly.
So any statements by people like these tend to have a huge impact on the society but it actually depends on the people whether to trust them or not. Cryptocurrency's price solely depends on news and then statements like Jamie's would then obviously create an impact on crypto's price.
We should try to hold our coins than to panic and sell and get ripped off.

       


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September 13, 2017, 12:12:26 PM
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Ok to summarise:

We got some banker from JP Morgan with FUD

Charlie Lee Litecoin creator with FUD

China banning ICO's FUD

China banning exchanges FUD


Anything else I missed?

With all these different types of FUD's in a short space of time it does this seem like a coordinated attack on bitcoin. It cant be by coincidence that all these FUD's happen in a short space of time. Charlie Lee is for Cryptos unlike fiat bankers so don't understand his position  Huh

With Segwit 2x in november and if the motives of the above FUDer's were price manipulation then surely they should already know about november segwit 2x and that will bring the price down anyway. So why couldn't the above FUDers wait till november segwit 2x for cheap coins if the FUD's are really about price manipulation?


do you think the price now is cheaper? or will november be a better time to enter?

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How will the CEO of JP Morgan do an audit on his staff/employees to see whether his staff is dealing in bitcoin before firing them  Huh
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September 13, 2017, 12:19:51 PM
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Famous celebrities often tend to have a lot of followers on their social media accounts. People are there who trust them blindly.
So any statements by people like these tend to have a huge impact on the society but it actually depends on the people whether to trust them or not. Cryptocurrency's price solely depends on news and then statements like Jamie's would then obviously create an impact on crypto's price.
We should try to hold our coins than to panic and sell and get ripped off.
Yep I agree, those who follows this celebrity usually trust them blindly without making the effort to make sure whether the information is true or not.

Cryptocurrency's price will be affected by news either it's FUD or just good news in chain which will result in price jumps.
Cryptocurrency really has a bright future, I would say a country that is controlled tightly will ban cryptocurrency in the future because they won't be able to get hold of the customers money by using their "banks". Never panic, if there's a down in price then there will be an up aswell.

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this is really intriguing topic if the tweet can cause something like this it is fundamental to take note of this action, but if the price drop I think it will not stay forever.


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