So Let's
set a dead line Sunday 18:00 GMT
Please, check refund list before that.
All requested refunds will be processed by Jhon.K
The rest coins will be transferred to Zefir in exchange for delivering rest of the chips to me.
All these chips will be here ready either for assembly or delivery by your wish.
Dear , participants ,
The refund order is sent.
Those of you that choose to refund , please send and e-mail to refund@technobit.eu with signed message with flowing input:
<GB#>,<No in the list>,<forum nick>; <N>; <C>; <sending address>
Those that want your chips will get them , so please send e-mail to chips@technobit.eu with signed message with following input:
<GB#>,<No in the list>,<forum nick>; <N>; <C>; <sending address>; <your delivery address/ manufacturer
Best Regards: Martin<GB1>,<34>,<quest>; <128>; <10,01088>; <1GjAbLU8UTn4YArcGv4kRnkMtWnqe5aq4c>
<GB1>,<32>,<darkfriend77>; <32>; <2,50272>; <1LJiC5hmBY7EWrWzfq3NUcsJj4J5HMYcT8>
GB1,38,fex; 48;3,75408; 19bKGxRDdQzxZCiomBQTCJdTuY9hY8MaAG
<GB1>,<4>,<hacko.bg>; <16>; <1.25136>; <1L1yVgod8mAhBqQNY1t6mjz9F1RyufDiMd>
<GB1>,<29>,<hacko.bg>; <1304>; <101,98584>; <1L1yVgod8mAhBqQNY1t6mjz9F1RyufDiMd>
GB1,8,dimomit,1600,125,136,1JX2hQrwpGf3cFZBM71dHDAkmDUzL3b6D
GB1,36,dimomit,512,40,04352,1JX2hQrwpGf3cFZBM71dHDAkmDUzL3b6D
GB1,14,mbd4,66,5,16186,14YYJPj2GX245Qwt1DyeCRWvuKVeCxEnsp
GB1,Min€r,188,14,70348,17AAr4dEDhgKfpZB7cC4x5Fk35Nm3A1AE9
<GB1>,<37>,<racquemis>; <32>; <2,50272>; <13eNckPoVN2PZJPvZVXt2uopvDBZLRvuy9>
<GB1>,<33>,<nemercry>; <32>; <2,50272>; <13niA2BjbXg3p3g6YvUy1RCm79AwB9tzgc>
#1, 35, pajak666, 36; 2.81556; 1P4J4Kcib7WEQGxtdcjEwXsDnDJ5BYkpPy
GB1, 34, mitty; 214; 16,73694; 12qGq8GLeqzstyxhJbVY8oEwEDfPhUyYDV
GB1; 31; patica; 320;25,0272; 16muA1AUuKC96zbjd2jYaYpnZkikPuxpxF
<1>,<9>,<Digi128pci>; <2>; <0,15642>; <1KgAdXtY9yMeKpJiPzfNWwRPp76WZBJZHJ>
<GB1>,<7>,<jkminkov>; <980>; <76,6458>; <173Qmir9hTmvkb3Cmvgj78AV2CjL5azZYS>
GB1,34,ilpirata79; 64; 5,00544; 1UKmHLagJ69SA4gWGMKcNdk5i7FJy6Vqp
<GB1>,<15>,<dnaleor>; <192>; <15,01632>; <1DKaP1CCaEFBBZFMFKHey11SULgptSSdXU>
1, 22, cha0z97; 80;6,2568;19Sy1mEGGJFLv2fbFwAaFFeVg9h62FtrR4
The amounts in the list are based on 0,07821 BTC per chip , that is the Avalon cost that was refunded to the escrow address .
The rest 9 % are the GB tax including the escrow fee.
The escrow fee of 2 % - 0,0015642 BTC per chip is not refundable .
The rest fee of almost 7 % - 0,0052258 BTC came to me.
I think I deserve some payment for all the time and efforts in organizing this venture , but if you all decide to ask it in full I'll honor this
I'll left the participants of the GB1 to decide what to do with this tax, in any case I'll be able to refund it in 25 days.
In monday I'll ask for vote about that.
Again everybody , please check the list and in case of any mistakes please send me a PM.
In sunday 18:00 GMT I'll send final list to Jhon K for sending the refund transfers.
GB2 , that is going to be delivered in time is not decided for now, we'll do it next week.
Again thank you for the patience
Best Regards: Martin
The ordering site for miner assembly service is OFFICIALY OPEN 0:00 4-th of August 2013technobit.eu
THE ORDER IS NOW CLOSED
The AVALON store is now reopened. This batch will clomplete on Friday 05/07/2013 at 12:30:00GMT. Chips will be ordered during the weekend. Please do not send payments after this time or your chips might not be bought. Very last chance to get your AVALON ASIC chips.
TIME LEFT ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgifcountdown.com%2Feurope-guernsey%2F1373020200%2F141414%2F0f0f0f%2Faaaaaa%2Ffdfdfd%2Ffaedad%2Ftrue%2Fcounter.gif&t=665&c=wo59-kiH2wC5bw)
03-July-2013
The second batch will be closed 5-July-13.
The Avalon ordering system is working now
There is an agreement with Zefir and other EU groups to join together .
The delivery will be in about 9 weeks30-06-13
The AVALON Store for the ASIC chips is in maintenance and it is not possible to place new orders for the chips right now. Therefore, unfortunately, the completion of the second batch will be postpone until the store re-opens which is expected to happen in just a few days. We will announce at least with 24hr in advance when completion will happen. New orders are still welcome.
28-6-2013
The second batch will be ordered Sunday 30-June-13
There is an agreement with Zefir and other EU groups to join together .
The delivery will be in about 9 weeks
2-pи бaтч щe бъдe пopъчaн в нeдeля в 16 чaca.
Бeшe пocтигнaтa дoгoвopкa вcички eвpoпeйcки гpyпи дa ce oбeдинят пpи ЗEФИP, кaтo aкo нe cтигaт 10000 тoй щe дoплaти paзликaтa.
Дocтaвкaтa нa чипoвeтe щe cтaнe нaчaлoтo нa ceптeмвpи16-6-2013
First batch closed
SECOND BATCH NOW OPEN[/color]The assembly service now have a name
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ESCROW PAYMENT ADRESS:
14ubeoxxMesCMEFpet9uYyBHyDghJbpkhTEscrow service provided by John K.
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1. Why a new Group Buy?
We are planing to make Avalon chips based production of boards, fans and complete miners in Eastern Europe , Bulgaria with very competitive prices.K16 and K1 Klondike
06-06-13
K16 price (PCB+assembly+test) 36.275 EUR + 0.04 BTC sent to developer in 1000 boards batchK1 price (PCB+assembly+test) 13.277 EUR + 0.02 BTC sent to developer for 1000 pcs batch![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs7.postimg.org%2Ftfxaowup3%2Fassem2.jpg&t=665&c=F2nVew6Nq0BdAQ)
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Complete miner
8x K16 stacked on 4 200x100 heatsinks with fans and enclosure
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K1 case and hea tsink design
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As an addition to this service I'm organizing this group buy as there a some requests for chips also.The purpose of this group is to alow the potetional customers of my assembly service to order chips if did not yet.
I'm going to borrow the terms of other groups.
2. Remainder
Only send payments from an address you control (i.e. you can sign with it). If you send from MtGox or other exchanges, you risk loosing your funds since you can't prove you sent them. If you bought chips pay attention that your address is in the list that shows the payments with the correct amount of chips. If something looks wrong you need to proof that youre the owner of that address. You have to be able to sign a message with your sending address to proof that youre the owner off that address: How to sign/verify messages?.
The wallet Multibit cant sign messages. In case you did an error there it should be possible to import your addresses into a wallet that can sign messages and then sign a message with your sending address.
3. Order Status
Here will be posted the status of the order with avalon
4. Refunds
Your orders are binding after your funds have been used to pay for a batch. Before that (while coins are piling up for the next batch), you can demand for a refund and will get it paid back in full. Note that after you got refunded, I will not accept future orders from you (to prevent free risk-offloading to me).
In case avalon stops selling of chips all collected bitcoins will be transferred back to the sender.
5. Where you from?
I'm located in Bulgaria , Sofia, Your avalon chips could be integrated in our design, Kondike assembly service we offer if you dont want to create your own miner.
There are some more miner-developers.
6. Who are you?
Im a Bulgarian . I'm developer of a miner board and also I'm offering assembly service for BKKcoins Klondike design. If you want proof of my identity i can provide you with my id. In any case it'll be provided to John K to establish escrow service on this group buy.
7. What to do with the chips?
Its up to you. You can receive it to your home and create your own miner. You can order with me in a few options. Look here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212031.0Of course you can ask me to send it to any other location, miner producer, your own address or similar.
8. The chip details from Avalon homepage:
The relevant information about the chips is available from Avalon here.
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Product Description:
the only payment accepted is Bitcoin.
these chips will be available until at least end of the year, 2013.
spec and various information is available on the wiki
the chips being sold are packaged and tested.
the lead time on the chips is 9 to 10 weeks.
made to order from TSMC foundry and then packaged and shipped.
the minimum order quantity is 10,000 chips and the maximum order quantity is 200,000.
the chips are identical to those in Avalon, clocking 282Mh/s per chip.
(taken out of description) the password is “I understand and agree”.
communication protocol, reference board design provided in early May.
everything will be open source from FPGA to PCB design.
sample chips will be provided 4 weeks into ordering.
we do not offer technical support of any kind, this is final.
if you do not know what to do with the packaged chips, please do not purchase.
9. Pricing
A: I am asking for a 9% surplus for my nerves (risk compensation). the 10k chips totaled to 782.1BTC, which results to a resale price of 0.085BTC / chip.
B: Like zefir i have to get a fee for shipping the chips too. Zefir takes $20 processing fee per shipping, regardless of how many chips ordered. I will need only $10 as a fiat based component to cover expenses, including package hardware for shipping, custom handling fees and, if needed cost for outsourcing if time is of essence. On top there is the shipping cost needed to ship your package to the location you want it at. You can chose the type of shipment when there is a choice to choose between security and higher price. This fee is not per order but per shipment. I think thats fair and even better than the original offer.
C: In the case that the shipment from avalon is stopped by customs and a fee has to be paid to get the chips back, all buyers of the batch pay the needed fee to free the batches according to the amount of chips a buyer owns in the batches. No additional fee is taken for this.
D: If you are willing to ship to a miner developer like burnin the shipping fee will be split through all buyers that want their chips sent to him. This should lead to a very low shipment cost.
E: The fiat fee will be paid once the chips arrive and i got your target address. It doesnt have to be paid in fiat, Bitcoin is fine too. Its only calculated in fiat to be independent from bitcoin exchange price.
10. Reservation
No reservations. If you pay and give me the details youre in. Reservations wouldnt be fair against the others. And as long as its possible to order chips there will be a new batch created everytime. The blockchain is the indisputable proof of your payment.
11. Ordering
A: A lead time of 10+ weeks in the current sentiment takes ages. We can right now observe the dramatic exchange rate fluctuations, and we might also see some of the competing ASIC manufacturers succeed and flood the market with cheaper solutions. Before you order, please do your risk analysis.
B: If you still want to buy and are fine with the above pricing model, then you will have to participate in the risk and pay your order upfront. If you understood the risk-factors you should clearly understand why I can't afford to charge you in 10 weeks.
C: There is one common payment address: (Escrow that I'll ask Jhon K to create) Only send from an address you can sign a message with. Otherwise a dispute cant be won. How to sign/verify messages?.
Why verify messages? In case another person claims that your payment is his payment you have to be able to prove that the address you sent from is yours.
Make sure you copied the correct address before clicking on send. Compare first, last and some middle digits of the copied address to prevent errors.
13. To buy
A:
select your number of chips N in steps of 1, starting from one, with no maximum chips
send the total amount (C = N * 0.085) to the given address 14ubeoxxMesCMEFpet9uYyBHyDghJbpkhT
post or PM (if you want to stay anonymous) me your order in the following format:
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<forum nick>; <N>; <C>; <sending address>
ensure the sending address is under your control, so you can sign with it in case of disputes. Complete miner : Later (end of June) as soon we have working samples . We'll start to accept orders for PCB+assembly+test+heatsink . Price is about 40 EURHow to sign/verify messages?.
if your wallet application does not let you select the sending address and sends from multiple, please post only one of them (and keep the address for a while)
B: SIGNING/VERIFYING -optional
Copy the sending address from which you sent with to the group buy. If you mean that the sending address doesnt look like yours its probably a change address. This address is yours of course when you sent bitcoins with it. If you dont know the address then go to the transaction, where you sent bitcoins to the group buy, and check the details. There is a transaction-id. Copy this t-id and put it into the form field at blockchain.info. Then you can see the sending address(es) you sent the bitcoins with.
Choose "sign messages" in your wallet.
Copy the sending address in the field at the top where the address has to be.
Put your forums username in the message field. (If possible use only your username and not more signs or words to prevent errors while sending the info via pm or while verifying.)
Click at sign.
The signatur IS NOT stored in bitcoin network (blockchain) and isn't automatically transmitted to me. The signation only creates data, the signature, that is the long string at the bottom that ends to =. In order i can verify the sending address you need to send me the signature. See next point.
Create a pm and set up two code tags. Like this here:
Example-Code-Tag (Created with BBCode, that is the number sign on top of PMs or Posts while creating them):
Code:
This rectangle is a code-tag created with the hash-button above
the textfield when creating a pm or a post.
Put the message and the signature in such tag.
The code tags are important so that while sending the pm no wrong signs come to it that could make the message or the signature faulty.
In the first codetag put in the signed message, for example your username. IMPORTANT: Upper- and Lowercase does matter. You have to verify the exact same text you used for signing.
In the second codetag put in the created signature. Please be careful to copy all signs of the signature. For example use ctrl+A to mark all signs, then ctrl+C to copy them.
Go to Verify signed messages via website and put in your username (your message) and your signature into the fields. To be sure all is copied correctly first go in the field with the mouse, click ctrl+A to mark all the old text, then click ctrl+V to overwrite all marked text. Klick "Verify Message" and see that the sending address comes out that you signed the message with.
If that happened successfully send the pm.
As soon as i verified the signature and message and got the correct sending address out of it you will be verified.
Who is using armory knows that the result of signing is different. Its a block of text. Simply send me that block. I can verify it.
C: The buying window opens now and doesnt have an end as of now.
D: If there is more demand than the actual batch can hold, then the additional bitcoins move to the next batch, to order an additional 10k chip, given they are in stock. The coins moved to the next batch can be refunded of course if the buyer doesnt want to wait for the next batch.
14. Confirmation of order
No personal confirmation will be given. If you want to check wait for the next list with orders and search your address. If somethings not right inform me. But the list is the confirmation.
15. Who should buy and who should not
A: Please note that this chip distribution is meant for DIY folks and for users that know where to let the chips be assembled into a miner. That is, if you want to build your own mining boards, either from scratch or based on the reference design Avalon announced to release in May. You can ask from me complete delivery with separate order in the assembly service group buy. Of course you can let the chips be forwarded to a developer of your choice. (burnin, allten, or whoever decides to work on a ASIC product). Even though they will have some chips to sell their miners you can give them your chips to let them implement in a miner.
There are some more miner-developers except me
B: You can order chips either if you plan to develop your own mining board, or want to buy a ready-to-mine assembled from other developers / manufacturers. In the latter case, with your order you secure the chips from the current batch and decide where to send them for assembly when they arrive.
16. Escrow
I'll ask Jhon K to provide an escrow service for this buy
17. Shipment
A: The chips will be forwarded to your desired address as soon as I receive them and you paid the fiat component mentioned above. You give the target address at this time too because in the meantime much can change. It makes no sense to collect the addresses now. Delivery within Europe will usually take less than a week; overseas will take what it takes. You will be given the option to select shipment method on time and resolve custom specific issues. Because the shipment price has to be paid you can chose the kind of shipment. I guess insured shipment would be the best choice for your investment.
B: Orders of >=1000 chips are sent first. All chips, regardless of the amount, will be sent as fast as possible and help will be hired to make this happen.
18. Communication
I live in Bulgaria (GMT +2). Ill try to communicate as fast as possible. Of course i dont have time everytime. Please be patient when im not around for some time.
Thank you!
Martin