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cryptrol (OP)
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May 27, 2013, 12:50:43 PM
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I have just read this on a pool news section (wemineltc.com) : 5/27/13 - Crazy Night For those of you not in our irc or on btc-e trollbox, etc its been a crazy night for litecoin and several pools. Things got a little weird on the litecoin network, pools got together with litecoin devs to try and work it out. The pools and devs are working together to get to the bottom of things and we will pass it along to you guys as we find out. In the meantime the pools are working together to sure up the network and keep data between pools consistent and clean. It's been a pretty crazy few days with ups and downs but we have been working around the clock on this and will continue to do so. As soon as the issue came up on the network tonight we got on it right away, LTC is ok, no need to panic, LTC devs are taking things seriously and are working just as hard. Consider sending a donation to the ltc devs to help support their great work and new development: https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php?topic=3874.msg27452#msg27452 - With the linking of pools and changes we made we hope to block any more of these attacks. Does anybody know what are they talking about ? |
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Boxman90
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May 27, 2013, 01:02:01 PM |
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Seems like some nice fucking FUD, i have noticed nothing wrong with LTC?
Looking at it more closely, they might also just try to rationalize 'lost blocks' that went to their own pockets.
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cryptrol (OP)
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May 27, 2013, 01:04:24 PM |
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I did experience lower payments from the pool above but though it was bad luck, then it happened to be some kind of attack against the network.
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Boxman90
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May 27, 2013, 01:06:28 PM |
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Don't just trust anyone in crypto-world.
Another equally unlikely scenario:
Wemineltc is holding blocks for themselves, and are posting this 'news' to try and rationalize the lower payouts to their users. Their whole story smells of bullshit.
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cryptrol (OP)
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May 27, 2013, 01:20:17 PM |
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Bump.
I really would like to know other people's opinion.
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Mhash pipe
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May 27, 2013, 01:34:52 PM |
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Just checked my ltcmine account. I leave one card mining 24/7 at ltcmine.ru which is pps
27.05.2013, 17:00:01 0.01649037 0.00001651
27.05.2013, 16:00:01 0.03187081 0.00003190
27.05.2013, 14:00:01 0.01458763 0.00001460
27.05.2013, 13:00:01 0.01569756 0.00001571
27.05.2013, 12:00:01 0.01490476 0.00001492
Looks like I didn't get paid for 15:00 until 16:00. So this would have been what 2-3 hours ago? I've actually never seen this happen, but I'm definitely not missing any ltc.
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Boxman90
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May 27, 2013, 01:42:03 PM |
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That's only their payout script having a hiccup it seems. Doesn't really relate to the litecoin network imo.
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Mhash pipe
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May 27, 2013, 01:43:34 PM |
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Probably right, I'm not putting on my tinfoil hat just yet.  |
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cryptrol (OP)
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May 27, 2013, 01:46:54 PM |
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Probably right, I'm not putting on my tinfoil hat just yet. I never take mine off. |
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msm595
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May 27, 2013, 02:15:15 PM |
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I also want to know. I haven't found this info anywhere else, and my payments have been low the past week or so.
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BBQKorv
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May 27, 2013, 02:29:10 PM |
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I also want to know. I haven't found this info anywhere else, and my payments have been low the past week or so.
Payments decrease with the difficulty rising unless you keep adding hashpower to your rigs to compensate for that. |
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May 27, 2013, 02:32:32 PM |
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I also want to know. I haven't found this info anywhere else, and my payments have been low the past week or so.
pretty sure the difficulty went up a couple times |
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msm595
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May 27, 2013, 02:43:08 PM |
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I also want to know. I haven't found this info anywhere else, and my payments have been low the past week or so.
pretty sure the difficulty went up a couple times Even at current diff I should have been making 3 ltc a day, but I was making roughly 2. |
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cryptrol (OP)
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May 27, 2013, 02:50:06 PM |
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I also want to know. I haven't found this info anywhere else, and my payments have been low the past week or so.
pretty sure the difficulty went up a couple times Even at current diff I should have been making 3 ltc a day, but I was making roughly 2. Were you mining at weminetlc.com ? |
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msm595
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May 27, 2013, 02:52:20 PM |
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Even at current diff I should have been making 3 ltc a day, but I was making roughly 2.
Were you mining at weminetlc.com ? Yes |
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Boxman90
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May 27, 2013, 02:53:33 PM |
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- So the news is only on wemineltc
- Affected miners seem to originate from wemineltc
- The rest of the network/pools have no news and seem unaffected
Yet wemineltc blames it on the network.
I'd say wemineltc is being shady with your LTC.
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peacefulmind
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May 27, 2013, 02:55:12 PM |
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Payouts below expected difficulty are sometimes normal as pool luck can go up and down. Know your payout system. The Litecoin team is really growing and getting serious, there may be people in BTC who want to stop what is becoming a freight train - so they would have huge incentive to launch attacks - everyone at the conference was talking about LTC...LTC...lots of speculation, more than you would imagine. The dev team has really gotten more and more organized with some new members too - Hi. I am Warren Togami, the lead developer on Litecoin-0.8.x. I am better known as the Founder of the Fedora Project, and I have worked on other open source projects like Spamassassin, K12Linux and Cyanogenmod. I spent the last two years in grad school. I need to clarify some points here. https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,3874.msg27188.html#msg27188I have heard to expect LTC to make a splash with some other new features when 0.8.x hits. LTC will end up bigger than anyone here expects. |
"I think you are to hung up on this notion about 'pre-mining' being a No-No." - from journeys into the dark depths of the alt coin forum.... |
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cryptrol (OP)
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May 27, 2013, 03:05:36 PM |
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Payouts below expected difficulty are sometimes normal as pool luck can go up and down. Know your payout system.
Maybe I should have quoted the previous new that talked about luck. Here it is. I am aware of the effects of luck on payouts. 5/25/13 - Pool Luck
As many of you have noticed the pool luck has been very bad the past 2-3 days and payouts therefore have suffered. We went from finding normally 80-90 blocks a day to finding 56 one day and in the 60's another. As your payouts are 100% based on the number of blocks we find, you will have most likely noticed lower payouts than normal.
While bad luck is possible we started to suspect other issues and worked with one of the litecoin devs to try to get to the bottom of why we werent finding the correct amount of blocks and see if it was just bad luck or other issues. We looked at many possible vectors of attack and diagnosed our connection to the litecoin network, latency of getting work, etc. We have identified a few possible vectors of attack and a few possible network issues and took steps to make changes to block these and improve the latter. Since making those changes we found 10 blocks in about an hour and luck drastically improved.
We will not be describing the possible attack vectors for obvious reasons as they are not well known or common and we cant confirm any of these vectors even were being exploited. What we do know is that things seem to be resolved and now that we are fiding the correct amount of blocks we expect payouts to go back to normal. We encourage all users to track blocks found on the block chain, every block can be traced back to the pool or person who mined it, we will be changing the pool mining address every 2 weeks starting tomorrow (this changes nothing for you, just makes it easier to check pool blocks found on the block explorer) to aid users in this process. Thank you for all of our dedicated miners who have weathered this issue and realize the value in our pool. We have worked non stop on this for the past 30 hours to work this out and will continue to monitor it closely.
Notice the use of the phrase ...attack vectors... . |
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Boxman90
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May 27, 2013, 03:13:54 PM |
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Yes but seeing the total lack of news from all other pools, who says they're not pulling this out of their arse to skim you guys some LTC?
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RandyMagnum
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May 27, 2013, 03:53:57 PM |
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Give-Me-LTC: 27/May/2013
You may have noticed extremely large blocks and round times over the past 24hours. This was due to multiple issues with finding blocks. This issue was affecting multiple pools for most of the day. We are still unsure of the cause but we have no reason to suspect it was due to issues on the litecoin network, will continue our investigations on this and give more information when we have it. So far things seem back to normal but we are keeping a firm eye on things.
If you are experiencing frequent disconnections contact us ASAP. |
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