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September 14, 2017, 06:20:02 PM
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China has been claiming a huge part of the territory of the Philippines over the South China Sea or also known as the West Philippine Sea, they are justifying their claim by saying that they have a historical right over that certain area due to the "9 dash line". However, following the UNCLOS, it is clear that the Philippines is the one that has right over that certain area. I want to know your stand and please do provide some supporting legal basis.
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September 15, 2017, 01:31:08 AM
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In my opinion, China must respect the boundaries given by UNCLOS. Here is a map:



The Chinese claim is in the red dash line, and it can be clearly seen that their claims don't have any historical or legal basis. The other nations need to stand unite, to fight against the Chinese bullying.

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September 15, 2017, 01:54:23 AM
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In my opinion, China must respect the boundaries given by UNCLOS. Here is a map:

https://www.peacepalacelibrary.nl/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/MapSouth-China-Sea.jpg

The Chinese claim is in the red dash line, and it can be clearly seen that their claims don't have any historical or legal basis. The other nations need to stand unite, to fight against the Chinese bullying.

border disputes are just issues meant to rile up the citizens so they think there isn't one entity ruling over everyone. do you really think the chinese elite and the western elite care who controls that area? no. they all profit from it.
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September 15, 2017, 02:14:51 AM
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They were already illegal. No change there. It’s questionable whether China ever even bothered to assert they were “legal” in the sense of coming from international maritime law. They were always unilateral assertions based on vague “historic rights”. In 2009 China’s response to UNCLOS was the dashed-line map and no further explanation. There is still no agreement on what the line means. One of the other answers to this question asserts China does not claim rights over the waters of the sea, and at least one other Chinese on Quora has asserted this also. Other Chinese disagree completely. In China it is not important whether the claim is well-defined, it’s important whether you pledge allegiance to it.
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September 15, 2017, 04:10:35 AM
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Whom do you think has more right over the South China Sea?

Hmmm... I think the South.

Or maybe China.

Both sides have equal arguments in the question...

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September 15, 2017, 02:46:37 PM
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To find out who is entitled to the South China Sea depends on the deal of who is dispute in that area? in order to avoid tension in the southern chinese sea area in priority dialogue it in my opinion

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September 15, 2017, 09:47:36 PM
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To find out who is entitled to the South China Sea depends on the deal of who is dispute in that area? in order to avoid tension in the southern chinese sea area in priority dialogue it in my opinion
If there is already a decision with the whole issue, why then is China not adhering to the solution already, the UNITED NATIONS should make a decision that settles this once and for all so that it doesn't run into an armed conflict.

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September 17, 2017, 05:45:58 PM
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To find out who is entitled to the South China Sea depends on the deal of who is dispute in that area? in order to avoid tension in the southern chinese sea area in priority dialogue it in my opinion
If there is already a decision with the whole issue, why then is China not adhering to the solution already, the UNITED NATIONS should make a decision that settles this once and for all so that it doesn't run into an armed conflict.

Good luck getting the UN to do anything about it. And good luck with America making good with its "commitment" to keep the sea lanes open.
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September 17, 2017, 11:33:56 PM
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Difficult to say, probably the one who has the force to take it. We could also ask: who has more right over the Falklands islands?

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September 17, 2017, 11:49:38 PM
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Whats the point again of debating this old issue? Its already done and the Philippines won. Its just the matter of enforcing it but it would take more years because China already built military bases on the islands.

Its the fault of the Philippines for not defending their own territory, you let them rape you.

this is an image China has been building in your own territory and you didn't done anything since 2014 while they are enjoying raping your country
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/30/world/asia/what-china-has-been-building-in-the-south-china-sea.html?mcubz=3

If you relly on your allies it could trigger a war remember when U.S got involved in S.China Sea they are provoking China and your country would be another war zone

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September 18, 2017, 12:15:22 AM
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There will be a time that they will also claim the Philippines stating that it is part of the business route... They say they have maps to support it.  You see, they are also sending some naval boats to Philippine rise even though it was located at the other part of the country or on the Pacific Ocean Side... So I think, China is trying to bully small countries like the Philippines where they think can easily be dominated when the war will actually arise.  They are not even trying to prevent or talk diplomacy to North Korea to stop their missile testing.  That will actually trigger a world war. Tsk tsk....

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September 18, 2017, 12:32:20 AM
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It is more complex than that.South china sea is a vast sea with a lot of natural resources.All countries in the neighobourhood want their share,so personally in my opinion It should belong to no one but all the contesting countries should be allowed to drill for oil there Just like iran and iraq have shared oil fields in the shat-al-arab area.
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September 18, 2017, 12:55:42 AM
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Philippines has more rights on the West Philippine Sea. China is being greedy on their claim on the islands because of the allegedly rich deposits of minerals and oil. The nine dash claim of Beijing violates the sovereignty of the Philippines.

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September 18, 2017, 02:00:02 AM
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To find out who is entitled to the South China Sea depends on the deal of who is dispute in that area? in order to avoid tension in the southern chinese sea area in priority dialogue it in my opinion
If there is already a decision with the whole issue, why then is China not adhering to the solution already, the UNITED NATIONS should make a decision that settles this once and for all so that it doesn't run into an armed conflict.

I don't think that the Chinese are going to respect any decision being made by the United Nations. Anyway, they have the veto power in the UN (and Russia may also support them), so passing any resolution against China will be difficult. The dispute can only be resolved militarily. The United States must build military bases in the South China Sea islands.

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September 18, 2017, 06:17:19 AM
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Philippines has more rights on the West Philippine Sea. China is being greedy on their claim on the islands because of the allegedly rich deposits of minerals and oil. The nine dash claim of Beijing violates the sovereignty of the Philippines.

No, its not about the natural resources its about the control in the area. That part of the ocean has tons of ships crossing it they can make millions of dollar if they impose a fee each ship passes through it.

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September 18, 2017, 06:29:38 AM
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It does not matter what I think. Whoever has the power wil rule it. Though the sea blongs to sea creatures.

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September 18, 2017, 09:40:07 AM
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it is my first time to know this countries name i was thinking Asia is china and Japan and India only
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September 18, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
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it is my first time to know this countries name i was thinking Asia is china and Japan and India only

Wow, your education system needs to get revised cos there are more countries in Asia. You can even use google to know this basic knowledge

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September 18, 2017, 01:01:36 PM
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China has been claiming a huge part of the territory of the Philippines over the South China Sea or also known as the West Philippine Sea, they are justifying their claim by saying that they have a historical right over that certain area due to the "9 dash line". However, following the UNCLOS, it is clear that the Philippines is the one that has right over that certain area. I want to know your stand and please do provide some supporting legal basis.
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September 18, 2017, 02:43:14 PM
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China's claim with their dash lines are petty and laughable but their military isn't. There's already a ring made by the un council about tbhat and nobody seems to have the capability to challenge china and uphold that ruling. I'm not sure how the philippines and other countries are disputing this but china seems firm with its claim
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