Short term investment

[pooya87]

Whether or not we'll see a hard fork?
Are you kidding me? With almost 95%!!! of the miners signaling SW2x support you can bet your ass we will get a hard fork and chaos like we've never seen before.
A 95% incompatibility between the users and the miners... my God if anyone was waiting for double digit Bitcoin that will be it!
Core team effectively being fired from their job.
Core network will effectively come to a complete HALT!
SW2x network will not pick up where Core left off, they have a different agenda, they don't have user support, they don't have the market.

This is going to be one clusterfck of unearthly proportions.
The price will reflect this, hence i can guarantee (still open for the bet!) every single person here the Bitcoin price will plummet far under $1000 before November fork.

If enough miners end up pulling back (F2Pool already did so), then the support of other miners will be so small, that they end up forking off like what happened with Bitcoin Cash, which is something you seem to support.

Other than that, I agree with the assumption that we will be going through a whole lof of fud and shilling in the runup to this hard fork, but there is no need to blow up things like you are doing now.

Your predictions don't exactly justify you to keep throwing around with empty worst case scenarios. Do you even realize that you have been wrong so many times, that people reached a point where they just make fun of you?

F2Pool pulling back is as meaningless as the rest of them showing their support. specially since F2Pool is known to pull in and out of these things as they please. it is like 6 months ago and all the discussions about SegWit having 30% and BU having 40% or the other way around. it was meaningless. in the end the real support came when it was time and it was from EVERYONE. this here is exactly the same. the 95% and the F2Pools don't matter. when it is time we see the REAL support and then it may be 100%, or  50-50 or 0 or anything in between.

p.s. kwukduck is not wrong so many times. he is spreading FUD each time he sees an opportunity.

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[shine1123]

Many traders agree that Bitcoin is a great long term investment, but what about all the short term traders?
There is a value in short term trading of course and these months seem as they were and will be turbulent, making short term trading at higher stake.

When do you predict a bottom and top range of the market in these couple of months?

Due to the upcoming of a serious hard fork that has a major economical support these times seem very risky for Bitcoin. A major split of the community is more likely than during a Bitcoin Cash fork and we saw some price drops before the Bitcoin Cash fork and could possibly expect an even bigger drop during this one. Or maybe people gained more confidence in Bitcoin since the survival of that fork? Are the big investors confident that big companies that signed the NY agreement will make a successful fork and insure the value of their coins with their economical importance or will they bail due to uncertainty? If they are confident in those companies, are they wrong to be confident? Will the users reject the fork and would it make a very drastic effect on the price?

Also due to the bad clarity in China's new ICO ban, it is maybe possible for the government to clarify it's stance on crypto/fiat trading?
If their stance is supportive, we could experience a huge bull and if it is not, we might experience a perhaps medium or high decline in price?

Many things could affect the price in next 2 months and because many miners and other people who pay the bills from crypto it is important to know for them should they sell and when or should they wait and for how long.

Actually bitcoin is also good for shot term traders, especially when something bad happen like the last time the news from china. The bitcoin price fall because of that but if we look it and you buy many bitcoins when the price fall, you will get much profit from it because the bitcoin price going up again right now. I think this is one of a good example of short term.

[fedoralite]

Many traders agree that Bitcoin is a great long term investment, but what about all the short term traders?
There is a value in short term trading of course and these months seem as they were and will be turbulent, making short term trading at higher stake.

When do you predict a bottom and top range of the market in these couple of months?

Due to the upcoming of a serious hard fork that has a major economical support these times seem very risky for Bitcoin. A major split of the community is more likely than during a Bitcoin Cash fork and we saw some price drops before the Bitcoin Cash fork and could possibly expect an even bigger drop during this one. Or maybe people gained more confidence in Bitcoin since the survival of that fork? Are the big investors confident that big companies that signed the NY agreement will make a successful fork and insure the value of their coins with their economical importance or will they bail due to uncertainty? If they are confident in those companies, are they wrong to be confident? Will the users reject the fork and would it make a very drastic effect on the price?

Also due to the bad clarity in China's new ICO ban, it is maybe possible for the government to clarify it's stance on crypto/fiat trading?
If their stance is supportive, we could experience a huge bull and if it is not, we might experience a perhaps medium or high decline in price?

Many things could affect the price in next 2 months and because many miners and other people who pay the bills from crypto it is important to know for them should they sell and when or should they wait and for how long.

Actually bitcoin is also good for shot term traders, especially when something bad happen like the last time the news from china. The bitcoin price fall because of that but if we look it and you buy many bitcoins when the price fall, you will get much profit from it because the bitcoin price going up again right now. I think this is one of a good example of short term.

For this current happenings and yet further more?  I think yes bitcoin is good for short term trades for traders since the flactuation of it is unknown and might we would earn more money from this if bitcoins would even pump little by little for following days. And also ETH is great for short term trades also since this one is been affected more and the price for now is so cheap.

[cafucafucafu]

Price is stabilizing, at least. The panic dump was pretty scary.

I tend to stay clear of short term speculation because of the fact that markets are simply too volatile to be true. I'm in bitcoin for the long term and i think that BTC will increase in value exponentially over the long run. Short term is different though.

Right now, i'd say that we're trading with a $3k floor and $4k roof. Next month, i'd expect floor and roof to shift down around $300-500.

[cipher-x_09]

I think if you are planning to have short term investments it is better to trade now your bitcoins because recently china are urge to take down, due to the threat it post in the banking industry and their economy.

[johndoe784r]

Buy bitcoin

[fabiorem]

I can't short bitcoin, as I use it to short altcoins.

Bitcoin is always to go long, as bitcoin have a ideological background that is not found in altcoins.

Actually I don't even know if I will really sell them someday or will use them directly to buy stuff, who knows?

Altcoins are plain speculation, but bitcoin is something greater, there's a vision behind it, the true financial apocalypse and the born of a new paradigm.

[Indrawan77]

Bitcoin also can be used for short term but it will be more profitable to play with alt coin for short term, and for now the price still cant be predicted because the market hasn't been stabilize so the price keep on fluctuate, I am confidence in upcoming fork bitcoin will stand tall, now the investors already got the experience from previous forking and already know what to do

[aso118]

It might be profitable to do short term trades, but it is also risky. Many were caught unawares by the Chinese government's actions against Bitcoin. If something like that happens  You will have heavy losses, especially if you are leveraged.

[sicparvismagna]

Basically speaking why many people are mining for bitcoin is for their short investments as additional source of income. In way they can add value to their money so that can earn more money to support their expenses.

[azguard]

Good call can be made on short term when you are investing in ICO, cuz most dont last long, but here is bad thing that you can lose if you pick frong one. Investing in bitcoin is always good also in some that are good can be litecoin, ethereum, monero and few others to. Going on some that is pump is risky cuz you also can lose. On day trade you need to follow several factor first before you can go this research is one of them.

[olubams]

Bitcoin has been an asset of value that everyone with your interest is taken care of whether you want to be a long term holder or a short term holder, you will be taken care of. Where the problem comes is that some people want to be long term and short term holder at the same time. In the sense that, I want to buy at $4000 and sell at #4500 in three days but nope that's not long  term and that's not short term before of the margin is too short.

[NoNetwork]

I think if you are planning to have short term investments it is better to trade now your bitcoins because recently china are urge to take down, due to the threat it post in the banking industry and their economy.

How powerful do you think China is? Can it really do as it bids? Aren't you having second thoughts about that? I mean Why do you need to convert all of your Bitcoin, what are you afraid of, don't you have confidence in Bitcoin?

Have you ever heard of HODL? Its like holding but you're holding it to some point and to a specific period of time. But unlike in investing in some properties and in banks, it is quite short and most likely you'll profit more than those things. So, I'm telling you that its not over man.

[JL421]

You can but it is going to be risky there is a chance for the price to even fall further if that happens your short term investment will turn into a long term what you can do instead is invest in some altcoin who's price was higher in past you will get more profit and less risk will be involved

[ckorbba]

You can but it is going to be risky there is a chance for the price to even fall further if that happens your short term investment will turn into a long term what you can do instead is invest in some altcoin who's price was higher in past you will get more profit and less risk will be involved

It seems to me that any investment has a certain risk. Perhaps a short-term investment is not as risky as the early, but that nemesis is abruptly there. I would generally choose the degree of complexity, the trade is less complicated.

[Carlsen]

I think the bitcoin price will rise before the fork, just because of the example the BCH split gave.
After the split, the value of BTC and BCH together was higher than the value of BTC before the fork.

And I do not fear the outcome of the split.
After the fork I will have both, the new coin and BTC. One of them will be the future investment or payment system.
It's not like with the China rumors, which created the fear that a big number of bitcoin users will not be able to use their coins anymore.
It's the oposite of that: the people will have more coins to trade.

[cryptocurrienzi]

altcoins are made for short term investments.

[richminded]

Short term investment are very risky but still profitable, the market is really volatile and if you time the market well you can make money but i still prefer a long term investment because i believe that bitcoin will become more powerful in the future.

[bitcoin31]

Last few days the price of bitcoin down at 3000 dollars and if you see today is already 4000 dollard so if you bought bitcoin last few days you will earn profit. It is shorterm investment so what if you bought a lot of bitcoin for profit. But if you want a lot of profit you can hold it for few months or maybe few years or longterm investment. But no one knows what is the price of bitcoin.

[ihsanskanzaone]

I think if bitcoin is said to be a short-term investment could be possible because
 of the bitcoin price that can change the fox at any time. but if bitcoin is said it can not
 be used in long-term investments then you are totally wrong because bitcoin can not be
equated with money in general because the state can not regulate both amount and nominal
because it applies globally I am more likely to assume that bitcoin is equivalent to gold that
 can is used as a virtual object that has high value and its value depends on global market demand