DannyHamilton
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May 29, 2013, 03:35:04 PM |
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ECore (OP)
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May 29, 2013, 03:35:52 PM |
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Integrated Distributed Ledgers
A whole world of different blockchains living together in a single network based on DAG. No more gates, bridges, portals or special nodes connecting blockchains into a single whole. Only one p2p network, consisting of blockchains of various types: from private for state and corporate networks to public for crypto projects.
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ECore (OP)
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May 29, 2013, 03:39:04 PM |
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The remaining 0.31151597 still won't let me send.
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Integrated Distributed Ledgers
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DannyHamilton
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May 29, 2013, 03:41:05 PM |
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Great! If nothing else, we've at least established that the old wallet is still able to send transactions to other wallets. Wait until the transaction has 6 confirmations. It is a pretty high priority (more than 72,000,000), so it shouldn't take more than a few hours. It doesn't have a fee though, so it may take more than an hour. Once it has 6 confirmations, see if you can send a normal transaction from the new wallet to wherever it is you are trying to send to. If so, then we at least have a temporary solution that will allow you to continue to use your bitcoins while we work on sweeping up the remaining dust. |
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DannyHamilton
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May 29, 2013, 03:42:47 PM |
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The remaining 0.31151597 still won't let me send.
Definitely not. That is made up of more than 1,800 outputs each less than 0.0006 BTC. However, we've got most of your bitcoins moved to a new wallet that should work. We'll continue to get the dust swept up if you'd like once we confirm that you can send from the new wallet. |
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ECore (OP)
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May 29, 2013, 03:45:14 PM |
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The remaining 0.31151597 still won't let me send.
Definitely not. That is made up of more than 1,800 outputs each less than 0.0006 BTC. However, we've got most of your bitcoins moved to a new wallet that should work. We'll continue to get the dust swept up if you'd like once we confirm that you can send from the new wallet. OK great...I guess I was busy at one point with bitvisitor and cointube lols. I still haven't been able to wrap my head around how something like this could happen, but that's ok. |
Integrated Distributed Ledgers
A whole world of different blockchains living together in a single network based on DAG. No more gates, bridges, portals or special nodes connecting blockchains into a single whole. Only one p2p network, consisting of blockchains of various types: from private for state and corporate networks to public for crypto projects.
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DannyHamilton
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May 29, 2013, 03:48:44 PM |
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OK great...I guess I was busy at one point with bitvisitor and cointube lols. I still haven't been able to wrap my head around how something like this could happen, but that's ok.
By the way, 23.51 BTC at today's exchange rate is about $3,035, not $21,000  I have $21,000 worth of bitcoins in the wallet, so I would appreciate some help before I have a heart attack.
At this time we've successfully recovered about $2,995 of your $3,035 into a wallet where you should be able to spend it if you want. |
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DannyHamilton
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May 29, 2013, 03:57:58 PM |
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OK great...I guess I was busy at one point with bitvisitor and cointube lols. I still haven't been able to wrap my head around how something like this could happen, but that's ok.
This is only your fault in so far as that you were unaware of the problem with the way bitvisitor and cointube ran their business. Both of those sites know that they are messing up people's wallets by sending these extremely small transactions, and they just don't care. There are solutions they could implement that would avoid this problem if they wanted to. In the future, it is best to avoid any business that is going to send you bitcoins valued at less than 0.001 BTC. Essentially, they sent you thousands of pennies. Imagine walking into a grocery store with a few buckets full of pennies to pay for your groceries. You wouldn't expect them to accept that as payment, right? Similar situation here. Your wallet is full of extremely small value transactions. The wallet won't let you spend them all at once. If you had nothing in your wallet except these tiny outputs, then your problem would make sense. However, you have a single output that is more than 20 BTC. There seems to be a bug in the coin selection algorithm of the wallet. If the wallet was working properly, it should just ignore the dust, and use the one large output when building the transaction. I don't know why it isn't doing that. Hopefully that will get fixed in a future version of Bitcoin-Qt. In the meantime, we'll build you a new wallet that has your bitcoins and the addresses that you want to keep. |
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Abdussamad
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May 29, 2013, 04:22:59 PM |
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I have to say this thread has been quite educational  |
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ECore (OP)
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May 29, 2013, 04:46:19 PM |
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OK great...I guess I was busy at one point with bitvisitor and cointube lols. I still haven't been able to wrap my head around how something like this could happen, but that's ok.
This is only your fault in so far as that you were unaware of the problem with the way bitvisitor and cointube ran their business. Both of those sites know that they are messing up people's wallets by sending these extremely small transactions, and they just don't care. There are solutions they could implement that would avoid this problem if they wanted to. In the future, it is best to avoid any business that is going to send you bitcoins valued at less than 0.001 BTC. Essentially, they sent you thousands of pennies. Imagine walking into a grocery store with a few buckets full of pennies to pay for your groceries. You wouldn't expect them to accept that as payment, right? Similar situation here. Your wallet is full of extremely small value transactions. The wallet won't let you spend them all at once. If you had nothing in your wallet except these tiny outputs, then your problem would make sense. However, you have a single output that is more than 20 BTC. There seems to be a bug in the coin selection algorithm of the wallet. If the wallet was working properly, it should just ignore the dust, and use the one large output when building the transaction. I don't know why it isn't doing that. Hopefully that will get fixed in a future version of Bitcoin-Qt. In the meantime, we'll build you a new wallet that has your bitcoins and the addresses that you want to keep. Thanks for your help |
Integrated Distributed Ledgers
A whole world of different blockchains living together in a single network based on DAG. No more gates, bridges, portals or special nodes connecting blockchains into a single whole. Only one p2p network, consisting of blockchains of various types: from private for state and corporate networks to public for crypto projects.
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May 29, 2013, 06:18:27 PM |
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Did you get this fixed yet?
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ECore (OP)
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May 29, 2013, 07:15:12 PM |
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ok.....only 3 confirmations so far |
Integrated Distributed Ledgers
A whole world of different blockchains living together in a single network based on DAG. No more gates, bridges, portals or special nodes connecting blockchains into a single whole. Only one p2p network, consisting of blockchains of various types: from private for state and corporate networks to public for crypto projects.
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samurai1200
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May 29, 2013, 07:57:10 PM |
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My hat is off to Danny Hamilton... he has exhibited the utmost patience through this endeavor. I would be screaming at ECore by now to RTFPosts! (no offense  ) |
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ECore (OP)
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May 29, 2013, 08:19:01 PM |
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My hat is off to Danny Hamilton... he has exhibited the utmost patience through this endeavor. I would be screaming at ECore by now to RTFPosts! (no offense ) none taken and you are correct, he is a hero! i sent the bitcoins but i forgot i had the transaction fee set to 0....will it get there eventually? im surprised it didnt ask for a fee |
Integrated Distributed Ledgers
A whole world of different blockchains living together in a single network based on DAG. No more gates, bridges, portals or special nodes connecting blockchains into a single whole. Only one p2p network, consisting of blockchains of various types: from private for state and corporate networks to public for crypto projects.
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DannyHamilton
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May 29, 2013, 08:32:52 PM |
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My hat is off to Danny Hamilton... he has exhibited the utmost patience through this endeavor. I would be screaming at ECore by now to RTFPosts! (no offense ) none taken and you are correct, he is a hero! i sent the bitcoins but i forgot i had the transaction fee set to 0....will it get there eventually? im surprised it didnt ask for a fee Yes, much like the transaction we used to send the bitcoins between your two wallets (and the transaction we used last night to consolidate some of the "dust"). Your transaction is less than 10 kilobytes, has no outputs less than 0.01 BTC and has a priority larger than 57,600,000 (this transaction has a priority of 143,727,000). As long as you meet those three criteria, the network will allow you to send your transaction without a fee. It will take a while for it to confirm, but this transaction has a priority twice as high as the one we used to move the contents between the wallets. I'll be surprised if it takes more than 2 hours to confirm. |
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DannyHamilton
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May 29, 2013, 08:45:42 PM |
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Next we'll have to figure out which addresses to move to the new wallet, and then we'll have to figure out if we need to continue sweeping up what's left of the tiny outputs.
How many addresses are listed in the "Receive Coins" section on the old wallet upstairs?
How many of those addresses are you willing to abandon (assuming we are only abandoning the address itself and not the coins that were sent to the address) since you no longer intend to use those addresses to receive coins in the future?
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DannyHamilton
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May 29, 2013, 09:15:57 PM |
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i sent the bitcoins but i forgot i had the transaction fee set to 0....will it get there eventually?
2 confirmations already. It will likely get another 4 confirmations in the next half hour, maybe an hour. |
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