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November 14, 2017, 02:35:32 PM |
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I use $8 36" x 11" shelves from Home Depot along with 5x 3/4" square dowels that run about $3 a pop. 36" provides nice spacing between GPUs and allows moving the rigs to cold spots in the house during winter. In my case since I use 240V only PSU's, I had to install 240V outlets at each miner location, which can be a pain. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cstone.net%2F%7Edk%2Fminer03_lr_01.JPG&t=665&c=9C1wVztTBII5qw) In the summer time, they all live on metal shelving like this, and the wooden frame miners will also slip into those shelves without issue. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cstone.net%2F%7Edk%2Fsubsrearminers.JPG&t=665&c=gJKkhWfT7Vt3EA)
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November 14, 2017, 03:09:29 PM |
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I urgently recommend NOT use wood in your rig frame. It's cheaper than aluminium frame about 10-15 dollars but can cause a huge trouble. Flammable materials are dangerous! .... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F3469406e3d7bf803257a9f9061be0bbd.jpg&t=665&c=fL6YxUiRboDysg) ....
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November 14, 2017, 03:18:26 PM |
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I prefer aluminum over wood, I invest little more, but it's safer option. Racks are ok, but it's easier to sell smaller rigs. Man can build anything that he wants, if he wants.
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Branko
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November 14, 2017, 03:57:30 PM |
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all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself
Tell that to retard that made metal frame that got himself killed, because unlike wood, metal actually conducts electricity
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November 14, 2017, 09:34:18 PM |
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I use an old 4U rackmount server case for my 6gpu and a milk crate for my 4gpu. Milk crate is way more heat efficient, I may rebuild the rackmount one into a larger milk crate...
Plus the smaller one is almost portable. It's running ethos and if I can get the wifi working, it can be a mobile "space heater".
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November 15, 2017, 12:17:58 AM |
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all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself
You sound like you have no clue what you are talking about. If your machines are creating enough heat to set a wood frame on fire then you have already melted your hardware your hardware. Also, pretty sure no one with enough equipment to require a full rack is going to just be moving shit around all the time. The best part is how you complain about society getting more stupid when you are the one saying the stupid shit.
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Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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November 15, 2017, 02:04:47 AM |
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all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself
Maybe if you are using balsa wood or something weird. Any good hardwood isn't going to catch fire from normal heat or circumstance. Pretty sure it has to reach near 300 degrees Celsius to catch fire.
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November 15, 2017, 02:13:31 AM |
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all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself
You sound like you have no clue what you are talking about. If your machines are creating enough heat to set a wood frame on fire then you have already melted your hardware your hardware. Also, pretty sure no one with enough equipment to require a full rack is going to just be moving shit around all the time. The best part is how you complain about society getting more stupid when you are the one saying the stupid shit. Go back and read what he actually wrote. Especially the part about MALFUNCTION. The point youre obviously missing is that under normal operation wood is fine BUT if a component fails wood catches fire easily and when that fire has fuel it can burn your house down. A metal frame will not catch fire if a component fails and components by themselves dont have enough material to really burn explosively. If youre using wood, plastic, cardboard(srs Ive seen a few) or any other easily flammable material to build your frames you are a moron. Its that simple. Electronics fail and when they do you dont want to have them light anything up...
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November 15, 2017, 02:42:51 AM |
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Ikea sells inexpensive freestanding wire frame shelf units. I saw one for $20 USD.
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November 15, 2017, 11:46:11 AM |
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Wouldn't a metal frame be a lot safer from a fire safety hazard point of view?
I'm always looking for cheap, easy to assemble frames.
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November 16, 2017, 04:18:23 AM |
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The point youre obviously missing is that under normal operation wood is fine BUT if a component fails wood catches fire easily and when that fire has fuel it can burn your house down. A metal frame will not catch fire if a component fails and components by themselves dont have enough material to really burn explosively.
If youre using wood, plastic, cardboard(srs Ive seen a few) or any other easily flammable material to build your frames you are a moron. Its that simple. Electronics fail and when they do you dont want to have them light anything up...
Yup. This. The discussion is "can", not "will", and in the can discussion metal will always be fire safer than wood. Plastic, though? Depends. I have a 6gpu rig in a 4U rack case, but I also have a 4gpu rig in a milk crate. It's stupid thick, hard plastic. Is it flammable? Technically yes, but literally the whole rig would have to catch fire for it to be a concern (and I keep it on some sheet metal in a concrete basement). Now the sound dampening box for my L3, however, is built from wood. I do plan to eventually line the interior with sheet metal for this exact reason, but I'm also not shutting it off in the meantime because the risk exists, but is rather low...
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November 16, 2017, 06:19:45 AM |
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Wouldn't a metal frame be a lot safer from a fire safety hazard point of view?
I'm always looking for cheap, easy to assemble frames.
Yes a metal frame would definitely be a lot safer in terms of fire hazards. You're smart and I doubt i need to explain why. With regards to pricing, the standard retail price for wood frames are much cheaper. What you can do is to DIY and build your own metal mining rig frame. There are lots of people out there who have used metal or aluminum shelves instead of making a custom mining rig frame. It will depend on what is available at your local hardware. You can always look for online guides out there on how to make mining rig shelf. Good luck.
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November 16, 2017, 06:31:35 AM |
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Best is to build a rig in wood
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November 16, 2017, 07:11:27 AM |
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Best is to build a rig in wood
Everybody chooses that they like. Wood frame could be good enough if it previosly prepared - i.e. saturated of special fire resistant fluid. It cheap and easy to process. But you can't ground wood frame and it's violation in safety engineering of the using of electrical installation
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November 16, 2017, 07:56:13 AM |
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I only use wood. If a fire occurs, it will not be hot, but that something else will start to burn and in style. The wood also does not accumulate a static charge, the only metal I threw out because it was unstable, the same hardware in the wood does not fall.
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November 16, 2017, 09:28:05 AM |
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Best is to build a rig in wood
Everybody chooses that they like. Wood frame could be good enough if it previosly prepared - i.e. saturated of special fire resistant fluid. It cheap and easy to process. But you can't ground wood frame and it's violation in safety engineering of the using of electrical installation Nothing prevents you from grounding your rig in wooden frame...its like saying you can't ground concrete that your metal rig standing on, so its "violation in safety engineering of the using of electrical installation"
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November 16, 2017, 10:34:12 AM |
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all you fools using wood for frames is just dumb, you do realize your giving your rig the ability to start a fire if something goes wrong. last time I checked wood makes good fire starter metal does not. and to those that use a full shelf that's not all that smart cause when you have to move said shelf you have to take off all the hardware, unless your going to move it with the hardware on it and take a chance to damage something like an idiot, id swear society is getting more and more stupid with each passing day, sure wood is cheaper than a lot of metal, but it poses risks, if anyone who has seen what happens when things go horribly wrong they know, and likely do not use wood frames. only takes 1 part to malfunction in such a way you lose it all because yall were just too careless to put some actual thought into the crafting of your frames, ya can blame no one but yourself
Tell that to retard that made metal frame that got himself killed, because unlike wood, metal actually conducts electricity only retard here buddy is yourself and maybe that guy that got killed by electrocution lol, properly set up metal framed rig isn't going to do that, aluminum is a horrible conductor, while it still can, its a horrible conductor, now if steel was used now that lol could pose an issue. you happen to know what kind of material he used? chances are I bet steel was used aluminum with as much dc amps as were using would prolly melt the aluminum, ac same thing, aluminum doesn't handle current very well lol hence why it was used in houses for such a short period of time back in the day:D but hey you go ahead with a wooden frame to each there own lol, rig fires aint no joke, last I checked people have ALOT of them in there HOMES, all your doing is giving it fuel to burn better and hotter. also with the guy that died there is no way to know the whole story, for all you know he was careless and didn't check or do something before touching it or any other number of various reasons why it happened
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November 16, 2017, 10:43:52 AM |
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I started with wooden frames but "graduated" into using garage shelves like this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMW1ANdi.png&t=665&c=W1Meg7yhGkZy2Q) I added some thin, wood back supports (red lines) with holes or screws on the top so that I can quickly "hang" or remove the cards (blue) if needed. The bottom supports are to keep the cards steady. Mobo/PSU are on the slabs - you can even make them half slabs or fix them without the slabs for more airflow. Easy to make, makes it very easy to disassemble/troubleshoot rigs and the airflow is great, you can put them in front of each other so that one big fan can blow through more of them. And you can easily decide how many cards you want to put on a shelf, how much space you want between cards. I'm doing it this way also, its a pretty easy and cheap option. Does not require a lot of skills to pull it off. You get more space to use for your rigs. Looks great and when you cable management a bit its even better.
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