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September 18, 2017, 07:15:40 AM
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We faced a problem with our Lordmancer II Slack channel. There were many scam messages every day: in private, in general channels, etc. We constantly banned those spammers, but they just registered once again (even the names were the same!). Also each day we saw new members with names like "CEO", "cofounder", etc.

Finally we dicided to close the Slack channel. Now we use Telegram group https://t.me/lm2ico as a main communication channel.

I strongly recommend not to use Slack for ICO campaigns!

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September 18, 2017, 08:18:47 AM
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I don´t know what problems you have faced exactly, but not long ago I was contacted in an ICO slack group by an other member, with an fake message.
He tried to convince me that the ETH contract had some error and if I had already contributed, I will have to check it manually on www.NearlyMyETHERWalletButWithSpellingError.NoTLDecauseSomeWouldClickIt (the spellingerror on the original domain was hard to find and the phising site looked quite real.)

You mentioned now you use telegram, I don´t see the advantage of telegram over slack ? (but I have to admit I only faced problems throught slack too)

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September 18, 2017, 08:59:47 AM
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I don´t know what problems you have faced exactly, but not long ago I was contacted in an ICO slack group by an other member, with an fake message.
He tried to convince me that the ETH contract had some error and if I had already contributed, I will have to check it manually on www.NearlyMyETHERWalletButWithSpellingError.NoTLDecauseSomeWouldClickIt (the spellingerror on the original domain was hard to find and the phising site looked quite real.)

You mentioned now you use telegram, I don´t see the advantage of telegram over slack ? (but I have to admit I only faced problems throught slack too)

There was a lot of different messages. The least dangerous were about other ICOs. The most dangerous said that Lordmancer II ICO was open and contained a ETH address, some others had links to phishing sites.

Telegram is much defended against such messages. If someone are trying to send personal messages by using Telegram, each recipient can flag the message and the account will be banned automatically.

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September 18, 2017, 11:42:11 AM
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We faced a problem with our Lordmancer II Slack channel. There were many scam messages every day: in private, in general channels, etc. We constantly banned those spammers, but they just registered once again (even the names were the same!). Also each day we saw new members with names like "CEO", "cofounder", etc.

Finally we dicided to close the Slack channel. Now we use Telegram group https://t.me/lm2ico as a main communication channel.

I strongly recommend not to use Slack for ICO campaigns!
This issue have been known already on where there are lots of scammers who do spread phishing links on that chat medium on which newbie investors do easily fall out on the trap which they do logged-in on those link which are actually phishing links just to get the private keys of the wallet.Using Slack nowadays would really be dangerous on both investors and the project owner.There are lots of alternative though.

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September 18, 2017, 11:58:07 AM
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This isn't just slack, I have had a few instances of this occurring in telegram channels, and its become a pain in the ass to ban these scammers and also delete their messages.

Telegram does protect against this though.

They basically misspell a letter in myetherwallet.com in order to steal the private keys of an individual, for example, someone would replace e with a c, making myethcrwallet.com

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September 18, 2017, 12:10:39 PM
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This isn't just slack, I have had a few instances of this occurring in telegram channels, and its become a pain in the ass to ban these scammers and also delete their messages.

Telegram does protect against this though.

They basically misspell a letter in myetherwallet.com in order to steal the private keys of an individual, for example, someone would replace e with a c, making myethcrwallet.com

Correct! They did the same. Also they sent private messages saying that ICO had started and asked to send ETH to their address.

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September 18, 2017, 02:23:35 PM
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This isn't just slack, I have had a few instances of this occurring in telegram channels, and its become a pain in the ass to ban these scammers and also delete their messages.

Telegram does protect against this though.

They basically misspell a letter in myetherwallet.com in order to steal the private keys of an individual, for example, someone would replace e with a c, making myethcrwallet.com

Correct! They did the same. Also they sent private messages saying that ICO had started and asked to send ETH to their address.
If people are newbie enough then they would really deposit the ETH on those address believing that those are the exact ETH addresses on the said ICO which is really a frustrating thing.This is why we should really be aware on clicking links and check every letter if they are right and theres nothing being added just to fool people.If you are aware on this stuffs then you can really avoid this scam attempt.

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September 18, 2017, 08:17:26 PM
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This isn't just slack, I have had a few instances of this occurring in telegram channels, and its become a pain in the ass to ban these scammers and also delete their messages.

Telegram does protect against this though.

They basically misspell a letter in myetherwallet.com in order to steal the private keys of an individual, for example, someone would replace e with a c, making myethcrwallet.com
I have seen a post like that in social media that gives awareness to the ICO investors, these people are really everywhere. If there's money, they'll hop in to that project and will do anything what it takes to get a fast and stolen money. I've seen something like myetheriwallet.com looks the real ones if you don't real the whole URL.

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September 18, 2017, 08:29:34 PM
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We faced a problem with our Lordmancer II Slack channel. There were many scam messages every day: in private, in general channels, etc. We constantly banned those spammers, but they just registered once again (even the names were the same!). Also each day we saw new members with names like "CEO", "cofounder", etc.

Finally we dicided to close the Slack channel. Now we use Telegram group https://t.me/lm2ico as a main communication channel.

I strongly recommend not to use Slack for ICO campaigns!

Well, what's the purpose of asking members from bitcointalk to third party apps like slack and telegram is something I cannot figure out. Have seen a lot of ICO asking to join their channel, but what prevents them from corresponding with participants in this forum itself, which would have been more transparent?
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September 18, 2017, 09:26:16 PM
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Discord is also a good app, slack is full of scammers now
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September 18, 2017, 09:38:18 PM
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Slack was indeed not designed for this purpose and it almost become a norm to expect scam and phishing through slack channel. I just hope either Slack can improve the security or we will have to use an alternative.
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September 18, 2017, 10:37:38 PM
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Slack ia for noobs at this current stage. You just can set boundaries. I got into two slacks of two ICOs and I saw the issue just hours later.

Spammers trying constantly to steal from me with messages to my inbox.


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September 18, 2017, 10:42:18 PM
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Slack is badd !!
hackers sending phishing emails thru slack groups
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you can use whatever nickname you choose
i really hope everyone move from slack to telegram
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September 18, 2017, 10:44:53 PM
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We faced a problem with our Lordmancer II Slack channel. There were many scam messages every day: in private, in general channels, etc. We constantly banned those spammers, but they just registered once again (even the names were the same!). Also each day we saw new members with names like "CEO", "cofounder", etc.

Finally we dicided to close the Slack channel. Now we use Telegram group https://t.me/lm2ico as a main communication channel.

I strongly recommend not to use Slack for ICO campaigns!
That's why there some teams already migrated their public chat to the investors into the discord which already exploited by these scammers. I mean there is no bug like what was already happened in the slack channel and it seems to be a goot place to start another channel in the discord.



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September 18, 2017, 10:46:19 PM
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Everyday there are many messages pop up that Eth had some error or providing link to open. Newbies are kinda be a victim on these phishing websites. So all must beware of these issues that always popup on slack. Scammers are everywhere indeed.
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September 18, 2017, 10:56:41 PM
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There is a thread on here about a guy who thought he was getting some help setting up a pivx masternode.
Someone had him dump his private key and send it in pm (ok dumb yeah..but still).
Scammers lurking everywhere nowadays.
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September 18, 2017, 11:01:56 PM
Last edit: September 19, 2017, 08:24:26 AM by e-coinomist
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He tried to convince me that the ETH contract had some error and if I had already contributed, I will have to check it manually on www.NearlyMyETHERWalletButWithSpellingError.NoTLDecauseSomeWouldClickIt (the spellingerror on the original domain was hard to find and the phising site looked quite real.)


I'm very aware of the issues surrounding IDN https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name for faking urls that at first glance are looking valid enough to click them.
If there isn't some drive by attack awaiting one, it's at best social engineering that even the most hardened browser could fall for, since the source of trouble is located in front of the screen :-( ETH contract errors are somehow in between the range of believeable.

(BTW the [ANN] Lordmancer II in your signature uses https://vk.cc/6XpEWc what's the reason? This is a thread inside this forum? I assume that referal is used for counting clicks but when my mouse hoovered above I hesitated *just* because of thoughts ^^^ above.)
 
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September 19, 2017, 12:02:28 AM
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We faced a problem with our Lordmancer II Slack channel. There were many scam messages every day: in private, in general channels, etc. We constantly banned those spammers, but they just registered once again (even the names were the same!). Also each day we saw new members with names like "CEO", "cofounder", etc.

Finally we dicided to close the Slack channel. Now we use Telegram group https://t.me/lm2ico as a main communication channel.

I strongly recommend not to use Slack for ICO campaigns!
ICO based slack channels run rampant with phishing scams, mostly disguised as the slackbot itself. If you happen to receive a private message regarding your myetherwallet, don't bother clicking the link, because most phishing scams rely on social engineering, in order to work. That means, you end up providing the hacker all the information they need, by doing so voluntary,  but often unknowingly, due to the nature of the scheme.

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September 19, 2017, 12:05:05 AM
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im just a beginner so i im not totally encounter how to use slack. to all bitcoin users, beware in joining in slacks campaign. good luck to everyone.
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September 19, 2017, 12:08:04 AM
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Yes slack is not safe
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