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May 29, 2013, 10:42:25 PM
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What happened? 51% attack?!  And it was working so well.

Once we get this resolved, let's open up a marketplace
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May 29, 2013, 10:51:21 PM
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Scandal!
Abstract Coin's protocol has been compromised by user  "nimda"
he pushed a transaction sending me half the coins i sent him, back to me
then later he edited his post and is now claiming to have only sent 0.01AC back to me

can Abstract Coin overcome this exploit?

who knows!





A solution has been found!
A new protocol involving super low tech accounting rules is being developed and implement as i type this.

Abstract Coin will live!

stay tune for the protocol update that will solve this issue once and for all!

Abstract Coin - an idea worth thinking about!

Because of my renewed confidence in the AbstractCoin since this news, I'd like to invest all my life savings in it!
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May 29, 2013, 11:46:33 PM
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Whats next? HoudiniCoin??!
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May 29, 2013, 11:47:13 PM
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What happened? 51% attack?!  And it was working so well.

Once we get this resolved, let's open up a marketplace
There is already a market place. It exists within us all.

LET THE TRADING COMMENCE.
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May 29, 2013, 11:58:08 PM
Last edit: May 30, 2013, 12:13:58 AM by adamstgBit
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the first transaction on the Abstract Coin Block chain appears like this:

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|AC63n78dn| (1AC)Genesis(0AC) -> AdamStgBit

This unconfirmed transaction must be confirmed before AdamStgBit can send the coins to someone else. A transaction can be confirmed by anyone as long as they are not mentioned in the transaction, the person confirming the transaction is called the accountant. The accountant quotes the unconfirmed transaction and says "confirmed!". Only by quoting the confirmed transaction, can the recipient create an unconfirmed transaction. Each new unconfirmed transaction will contain the previous confirmed transaction, this will create a "quote chain" of confirmed transactions. The accountant can compromise the system  by editing his posts. But! If an accountant is dishonest we can fork the chain! simply by having someone else confirm the original TX and using that new confirmation in the chain.



examples:


The first confirmed transaction will look like this



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|AC63n78dn| (1AC)Genesis(0AC) -> AdamStgBit
confirmed!




now AdamStgBit  can quote this confirmed transaction and create a new unconfirmed, like this:


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|AC63n78dn| (1AC)Genesis(0AC) -> AdamStgBit
confirmed!
|AC8DN93M| (1AC)AdamStgBit(0.999AC) -> Hazard



now an accountant must confirm this TX in order for Hazard to create a new unconfirmed transaction

the unconfirmed TX above can be confirmed like so



|AC8DN93M| (1AC)AdamStgBit(0.999AC) -> Hazard
confirmed!



the accountant only needs to include the unconfirmed TX.
the sender must include the previously confirmed TX
and so Abstract Coin's quote chain is born.


This new protocol rule has effectively made all previous TX INVALID! So I will create a new thread outlining the new protocol and then we will reprocess the transactions one at a time starting with the genius block.

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May 29, 2013, 11:58:32 PM
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 Roll Eyes

not at all crazy

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May 30, 2013, 12:27:07 AM
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the first transaction on the Abstract Coin Block chain appears like this:

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|AC63n78dn| (1AC)Genesis(0AC) -> AdamStgBit

This unconfirmed transaction must be confirmed before AdamStgBit can send the coins to someone else. A transaction can be confirmed by anyone as long as they are not mentioned in the transaction, the person confirming the transaction is called the accountant. The accountant quotes the unconfirmed transaction and says "confirmed!". Only by quoting the confirmed transaction, can the recipient create an unconfirmed transaction. Each new unconfirmed transaction will contain the previous confirmed transaction, this will create a "quote chain" of confirmed transactions. The accountant can compromise the system  by editing his posts. But! If an accountant is dishonest we can fork the chain! simply by having someone else confirm the original TX and using that new confirmation in the chain.



examples:


The first confirmed transaction will look like this



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|AC63n78dn| (1AC)Genesis(0AC) -> AdamStgBit
confirmed!




now AdamStgBit  can quote this confirmed transaction and create a new unconfirmed, like this:


Quote
|AC63n78dn| (1AC)Genesis(0AC) -> AdamStgBit
confirmed!
|AC8DN93M| (1AC)AdamStgBit(0.999AC) -> Hazard



now an accountant must confirm this TX in order for Hazard to create a new unconfirmed transaction

the unconfirmed TX above can be confirmed like so



|AC8DN93M| (1AC)AdamStgBit(0.999AC) -> Hazard
confirmed!



the accountant only needs to include the unconfirmed TX.
the sender must include the previously confirmed TX
and so Abstract Coin's quote chain is born.


This new protocol rule has effectively made all previous TX INVALID! So I will create a new thread outlining the new protocol and then we will reprocess the transactions one at a time starting with the genius block.



That's twice in one year I've lost all my crypt coins.
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May 30, 2013, 08:37:12 AM
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Top spot at page 1 when googling for 'abstract coin'... Wall Street must have noticed, we're getting there  Grin
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May 30, 2013, 09:10:41 AM
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Genesis block here, bounty for first confirm... Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=219516.msg2316187#msg2316187

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May 30, 2013, 10:05:31 AM
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the first transaction on the Abstract Coin Block chain appears like this:

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|AC63n78dn| (1AC)Genesis(0AC) -> AdamStgBit

This unconfirmed transaction must be confirmed before AdamStgBit can send the coins to someone else. A transaction can be confirmed by anyone as long as they are not mentioned in the transaction, the person confirming the transaction is called the accountant. The accountant quotes the unconfirmed transaction and says "confirmed!". Only by quoting the confirmed transaction, can the recipient create an unconfirmed transaction. Each new unconfirmed transaction will contain the previous confirmed transaction, this will create a "quote chain" of confirmed transactions. The accountant can compromise the system  by editing his posts. But! If an accountant is dishonest we can fork the chain! simply by having someone else confirm the original TX and using that new confirmation in the chain.



examples:


The first confirmed transaction will look like this



Quote
|AC63n78dn| (1AC)Genesis(0AC) -> AdamStgBit
confirmed!




now AdamStgBit  can quote this confirmed transaction and create a new unconfirmed, like this:


Quote
|AC63n78dn| (1AC)Genesis(0AC) -> AdamStgBit
confirmed!
|AC8DN93M| (1AC)AdamStgBit(0.999AC) -> Hazard



now an accountant must confirm this TX in order for Hazard to create a new unconfirmed transaction

the unconfirmed TX above can be confirmed like so



|AC8DN93M| (1AC)AdamStgBit(0.999AC) -> Hazard
confirmed!



the accountant only needs to include the unconfirmed TX.
the sender must include the previously confirmed TX
and so Abstract Coin's quote chain is born.


This new protocol rule has effectively made all previous TX INVALID! So I will create a new thread outlining the new protocol and then we will reprocess the transactions one at a time starting with the genius block.

Fucking Christ. Are you telling me that my coins are GONE?! I need to go find a bridge...

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May 30, 2013, 10:13:38 AM
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I want some

Own address: 19QkqAza7BHFTuoz9N8UQkryP4E9jHo4N3 - Pywallet support: 1AQDfx22pKGgXnUZFL1e4UKos3QqvRzNh5 - Bitcointalk++ script support: 1Pxeccscj1ygseTdSV1qUqQCanp2B2NMM2
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May 30, 2013, 10:57:58 AM
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to do what  ?

10 Great Bitcoin & Litecoin related domain name on sale ! | MY ltc adress : LdCEBkFWAoXNcXXgvJ2zGRk35ircZouUx8
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May 30, 2013, 11:27:41 AM
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A list of bounties is here... Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=219516.msg2316862#msg2316862

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May 30, 2013, 11:48:19 AM
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to do what  ?
You so concrete  Angry

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May 30, 2013, 12:29:38 PM
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You so concrete 

hehe yeah you're right ^^ It just look like some kind of "forum game" which could be fun for a handful of cryptocoin geeks .but can we seriously expect to buy something with it ?

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May 30, 2013, 09:16:25 PM
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I want some

I'm trying to sell mine https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220333.msg2319747#msg2319747  Cool

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May 31, 2013, 02:14:18 AM
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What happens if a guy with 20 accounts confirms his own transactions and then edits ALL of the posts ?  Protocol is better but still not perfect.  I think perhaps only Hero members should do confirms ?

(could admins perhaps make this non-editable?  We would in that case have a great common ledger until, of course, someone hacks bitcointalk)
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May 31, 2013, 03:16:29 AM
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I want some abstractcoins, what do...?
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January 17, 2016, 05:53:45 AM
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Scandal!
Abstract Coin's protocol has been compromised by user  "nimda"
he pushed a transaction sending me half the coins i sent him, back to me
then later he edited his post and is now claiming to have only sent 0.01AC back to me

can Abstract Coin overcome this exploit?

who knows!





A solution has been found!
A new protocol involving super low tech accounting rules is being developed and implement as i type this.

Abstract Coin will live!

stay tune for the protocol update that will solve this issue once and for all!

Abstract Coin - an idea worth thinking about!


Please may I have some coinz?

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