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Heutenamos
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May 29, 2013, 10:03:02 PM |
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funny find. Seems too strange for a scam
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skywalk (OP)
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May 29, 2013, 10:09:29 PM |
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yeah,
this look legit to me i havent done any research. but they claim they can deliver next month.
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cyberkiller
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May 29, 2013, 10:18:28 PM |
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Has to be fake.
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May 29, 2013, 11:53:04 PM |
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Its might be not fake, if he selling a june-july 2012 place, in BFL pre-order list.
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101Official
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May 30, 2013, 12:14:36 AM |
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Not selling the product, just the "right" to the product. If. When. Emphasis on the If.
I like the Raspberry Pi interface idea though. That makes it so much more legit.
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TheSwede75
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May 30, 2013, 12:16:52 AM |
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For that hash-rate/price there is really nothing strange about it. He's just selling a cad design using BFL 28nm chips. Good luck getting a hold of all the components before Christmas
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Swimmer63
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May 30, 2013, 02:56:04 AM |
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Are they kidding. $425,000 and your going to give me a $45 Raspberry? WTF. If it's worth so much build it and mine yourself.
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May 30, 2013, 04:40:08 AM |
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May 30, 2013, 07:00:58 AM |
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Even if this is real it sounds like they're making the BFL mistake of thinking they can just slap this together. Stuff like this takes time.
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May 30, 2013, 05:52:01 PM Last edit: May 30, 2013, 06:03:32 PM by TekStart |
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g8bluSti -> We are trying to avoid the same mistakes as BFL!
This is legit guys.
Honestly, I have never seen such a bunch of skeptics. Did Avalon and BFL do that much damage? I would be interested because we don't want to make the same mistake.
Here's the deal ... ever since the telecom/dotcom bust of 2001, the VC/angel community has punished the hardware community by snubbing its nose to legitimate companies with great semiconductor ideas. They were then spoiled by the eBay/Google/Facebook/Apple software apps. On one hand, I don't blame them. If you invest $1 in hardware, you may get $3 back at best. In software, you can get $10 to $20 (or more).
So why would you want to invest in hardware? Simply put, you can't run software without hardware. The VC's don't see it that way or refuse to see it.
As a result, we (the hardware collective, like the Avalon's, BFL's, BitFury etc.) cannot get the $2M to build this stuff. Therefore, we have to resort to some sort of investment play. Avalon and BFL chose to pre-sell. Where they failed is that they do not have experience in this market like we do. So when they designed and built this and it didn't work - DOH! We have to get help testing and debugging it. I don't know these guys personally, but I think it's the classic S/W engineer vs/ H/W engineer battle. We see it every day. S/W guys think H/W is easy. H/W thinks the S/W guys are idiots. Until the day, one of them has to work on the other side of that "wall". Then they learn a quick lesson. But that's a topic for another day.
We are a US (CA) based hardware team with >150 years experience. We don't have $2M in the bank and we're not putting our collective homes up for collateral to the bank. At least not the married ones.
So let me clear up a few misconception on the eBay ad:
- We are looking for an investor with deep pockets. To build a 10TH/s system is not for the faint of heart. The $425K amount is just to take the FPGA protoype to ASIC and produce the first box (the investor gets to keep the box and generate revenue with it). - Once that works, then we will either pre-sell the 10TH/s boxes for $95K each and then go to production, OR we will have the same investor take this to the next level and pony up the remaining $2M needed to go to production of the boxes. The investor would then either take a fixed number of boxes for themselves, or market the boxes themselves. Anything is a possibility. - IN ADDITION, we will also sell our ASIC chip (10GH/s) on the open market to all who wish to build custom boxes (a la the Avalon method). Currently, the projected price is $50 per chip.
An alternative strategy is to presell the chip order and foprget about systems altogether. That said, the investor would need to come up with about $1.2M (instead of $2M).
Let me know if this is interesting to you. You know how to reach us.
Cheers
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May 30, 2013, 07:07:36 PM |
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For that hash-rate/price there is really nothing strange about it. He's just selling a cad design using BFL 28nm chips. Good luck getting a hold of all the components before Christmas BFL claims their chips are on a 65nm process.
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May 30, 2013, 07:54:13 PM |
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Yes but! Yes but! Yes, but you aren't seriously expecting to find Venture Capital on Ebay are you? I admire your chutzpah but I wouldn't spend that much on a perpetual motion machine without a demo...
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May 30, 2013, 08:12:49 PM |
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Traditional fund-raising methods have been running in parallel for several months now.
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May 30, 2013, 08:28:00 PM |
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Who does your chip design? Have you considered kickstarter?
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May 30, 2013, 09:10:15 PM |
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Not for my wallet this kind of amount... :p
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May 30, 2013, 09:40:30 PM |
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interesting.
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samueljezny
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May 30, 2013, 10:22:19 PM |
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I am curious if someone will buy it
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May 30, 2013, 10:38:37 PM |
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kICKSTARTER seems to be the right place for it....
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