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September 21, 2017, 12:48:40 PM
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Hi guys! We are TokenDesk, we strive to be the biggest direct marketplace for all ICOs that are published. The possibility to buy tokens directly via one marketplace will not only attract investors, but publishers as well. We have set the goal of publishing more than 150 ICOs in 2017-2018 and of reaching up to $288 mln in funding.

And we wanted to ask your opinion about our white paper :
https://www.tokendesk.io/docs/Whitepaper.pdf
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September 21, 2017, 12:49:44 PM
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150 ICOs, wow. Man that's a lot.

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September 21, 2017, 11:31:17 PM
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The white paper looks quite convincing, but still...agree with a comment above 
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September 28, 2017, 03:20:03 AM
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Hi guys! We are TokenDesk, we strive to be the biggest direct marketplace for all ICOs that are published. The possibility to buy tokens directly via one marketplace will not only attract investors, but publishers as well. We have set the goal of publishing more than 150 ICOs in 2017-2018 and of reaching up to $288 mln in funding.

And we wanted to ask your opinion about our white paper :
https://www.tokendesk.io/docs/Whitepaper.pdf

Token solves most of the challenges faced will getting the ERC20 Tokens, however your road-map is too long for the period.
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September 28, 2017, 04:24:05 AM
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wow 1 week and very little replies.

in theory, seems like a good idea. and tons of newbs would hop on board i would bet. but can it be pulled off? getting all these fiat, and credit cards accepted and exchanged, fees could get crazy and hard to manage everything.
but thats not my main issue.

i am more concerned the ico bubble will pop long before this is 100% operational. i cant see icos being a free for all forever, and with regulation of icos, comes whole new set of problems.

i feel icos are going to get a lot (more?) scammy in the following years, and regulation will be needed. both will be tough times for tokendesk i would predict
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September 28, 2017, 04:24:42 AM
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How open your site?
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September 28, 2017, 07:18:12 AM
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How open your site?

Hello, our website is www.tokendesk.io  Smiley
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September 28, 2017, 07:40:22 AM
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wow 1 week and very little replies.

in theory, seems like a good idea. and tons of newbs would hop on board i would bet. but can it be pulled off? getting all these fiat, and credit cards accepted and exchanged, fees could get crazy and hard to manage everything.
but thats not my main issue.

i am more concerned the ico bubble will pop long before this is 100% operational. i cant see icos being a free for all forever, and with regulation of icos, comes whole new set of problems.

i feel icos are going to get a lot (more?) scammy in the following years, and regulation will be needed. both will be tough times for tokendesk i would predict

Hi, Thank You for Your observation! We we will definitely improve and try to solve all the problems that are coming.
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September 28, 2017, 01:24:24 PM
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Hi guys! We are TokenDesk, we strive to be the biggest direct marketplace for all ICOs that are published. The possibility to buy tokens directly via one marketplace will not only attract investors, but publishers as well. We have set the goal of publishing more than 150 ICOs in 2017-2018 and of reaching up to $288 mln in funding.

And we wanted to ask your opinion about our white paper :
https://www.tokendesk.io/docs/Whitepaper.pdf

I have read your whitepaper, it is very interesting and amazing there will be many ico you will handle later.
The payment method you use is also very easy, especially if there are new investors who know the world of crypto, so they can use (paypal, wu, mastercard, visa) you have provided.

So your project is worth the wait, and I am very excited to join.
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September 28, 2017, 01:46:52 PM
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Hi guys! We are TokenDesk, we strive to be the biggest direct marketplace for all ICOs that are published. The possibility to buy tokens directly via one marketplace will not only attract investors, but publishers as well. We have set the goal of publishing more than 150 ICOs in 2017-2018 and of reaching up to $288 mln in funding.

And we wanted to ask your opinion about our white paper :
https://www.tokendesk.io/docs/Whitepaper.pdf

I have read your whitepaper, it is very interesting and amazing there will be many ico you will handle later.
The payment method you use is also very easy, especially if there are new investors who know the world of crypto, so they can use (paypal, wu, mastercard, visa) you have provided.

So your project is worth the wait, and I am very excited to join.

It's nice to hear that! If You want to join and buy tokens You have to sign up to our website and make a token reservation. Before the pre-sale we will provide You with more information and payment details but if You want to join our team send an email tomasm@tokendesk.io

Also join us on Telegram for more discussions:  https://t.me/joinchat/GT13fAxekPgw2g8ZNUznvg
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September 28, 2017, 02:02:48 PM
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 Shocked 150 ICOs and how many have you reach so far i will really want to know
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September 28, 2017, 02:37:12 PM
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Shocked 150 ICOs and how many have you reach so far i will really want to know

Hi, till 2018 we only offer our TDS token.
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October 25, 2017, 07:42:43 PM
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Stay away from this ICO!!

No smart contract, No github, Team with a fraudulent / scammy past, Dodgy company registered in the uk, uk company director is not in the white paper, no tokendesk team member in the uk company.....

@Tokendesk In many of your threads you keep mentioning:

Dear Bitcointalk community,

For all inquiries, contact us directly:
CEO: gintaras.tamosiunas@tokendesk.io

Gintaras Tamosiunas is the CEO of what company? He is not a director of Token desk LTD.
Gintaras Tamosiunas is only the CEO of a whitepaper!!

New article by one of the leading media of Lithuania:
https://www.15min.lt/m/id/verslas/finansai/kriptovaliutos-pionierius-tokendesk-veidas-milijona-svaru-isviliojusio-sukciu-tinklo-dalis-662-871850

English Translation: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.15min.lt/m/id/verslas/finansai/kriptovaliutos-pionierius-tokendesk-veidas-milijona-svaru-isviliojusio-sukciu-tinklo-dalis-662-871850&usg=ALkJrhivUt4yj20bLDInvXkTRk31YjCGYw

Charity scammer:
You have Tomas Mickauskas, a charity scammer in your team.

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The Air Ambulance Support Community Interest Company, St Anthony Trading Co (formerly Air Ambulance Service Trading Co Ltd), and St Anthony Repatriation (formerly Air Ambulance Service), were closed on 2 November after targeting residents in the South Midlands in ‘charity bag’ collections claiming to raise funds for local air ambulances. Over £1m was extorted in the scam.

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Anthony Joseph Durkin, who was director of both St Anthony companies, and Tomas Mickauskas, a former director of Air Ambulance who worked as a leaflet distributor for the two St Anthony companies, were named by the Insolvency Service for investigation.

Source: https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/high-court-closes-three-companies-involved-in-air-ambulance-collections-scam.html

http://www.charitytimes.com/ct/charity_scam_companies_closed_down.php

Company house source:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07308919
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07308919/officers

Another crook in your team:?
A blog from 2011 talks about Povilas Ruzgaila, a team member of Tokendesk.

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Penalties for the crooks suggested in Finland
Scand jobs (Povilas Rozgailas and Arturas Maculevičius) and Vidmantas Laukaitis are scammers

Source: http://suomiusukciai.blogspot.com/2010/08/scand-jobs-povilas-ruzgaila-ir-arturas.html

Translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=lt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsuomiusukciai.blogspot.com%2F2010%2F08%2Fscand-jobs-povilas-ruzgaila-ir-arturas.html

The TokenDesk website says:
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Investors are protected by an anti-scam rating system
Does that apply to your team?

Why did you ask an investor to transfer money to a spices company? That sounds like fraud. (see new article at the start of this post)

Why is the new Director of Tokendesk LTD, Stuart Poppleton, a 77 years old, director/former director of over 300 companies in the UK. Who is this guy? Tokendesk Messiah?
It looks like the same Stuart Poppleton from this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216717.0

If you google and search for Stuart Poppleton (company house etc...), you will see that he usually becomes a director before a company shuts down. That's what we call a director for hire.

http://www.printmonthly.co.uk/News/Business/5342/rogue-trading-of-pandemic
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Former clients of John’s companies including Houseprint, along with more than 800 shell companies listed in Companies House as having John (or his alias Poppleton) as a director, have come forward with information to ICSM Credit and the Official Receiver.

Source: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/lrUZPitEQMdiU0oB1Nlt76IxQeE/appointments
This looks very strange........

Did you hire a random director to avoid any liability before you close shop?

Not a single person mentioned in the TD whitepaper is a director of the UK company. Can you please explain?
You also don't have a bank account but instead used 3rd parties such as paysera and revolut to accept fiat transfers. Those accounts are now frozen / shut down.

Please stop this Joke ICO. Refund investors. Change career. Go home if you still have one or else go to the nearest shelter.

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Links to report this potential scam:
USA - SEC:

Either by phone:
Contact the SEC
Submit a question to the SEC or call the SEC’s toll-free investor assistance line at (800) 732-0330 (dial 1-202-551-6551 if calling from outside of the United States).

Or online:
https://www.sec.gov/whistleblower/submit-a-tip?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_messaging%3BPhiDbjNARgWFB1fleqAlkg%3D%3D

Click on the above link > Submit a tip button > accept

UK - FCA:
FCA online form https://www.fca.org.uk/consumers/report-scam-unauthorised-firm

UK - Action fraud
http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/contact-us?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_messaging%3BPhiDbjNARgWFB1fleqAlkg%3D%3D
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October 31, 2017, 12:17:54 PM
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Dear bitcointalk community,

we, the TokenDesk team, are highly concerned about these totally irrelevant, zero fact based negative comments that we have now seeing spread by one or two persons. Creating a number of new accounts to specifically post false facts about TokenDesk. It is something new to us. Here we will provide more inside facts about our project to clear the fog and to state the obvious - why the false facts are false:


Why this bad publicity happening in the first place?

TD: We had a single issue with a single person, who was supposed to be an expert of public relations. Instead, we got a negative PR campaign when we stopped partnership with that person, so called freelancer, who did not deliver what she has promised whatsoever. Her effort to create a negative vibe about our ICO shows what kind of person we had to deal with and we wish nobody else would ever get to employ that person so the very same reasons. Unfortunately to us, she knows a few journalists in Lithuania (not anywhere else, really, which she lied us about) who decided to join the Muppet show and write some irrelevant, zero facts about TokenDesk business based articles. If you translate them, like a few "enthusiasts" suggest here, you will not find a single negative fact about the TokenDesk. Please do, we have nothing to hide here.

1)   No smart contract?

TD: This is our smart contract on Github: https://github.com/TokenDesk/TDS

Feel free to contact gintaras.tamosiunas@tokendesk.io for the bounty program that is available for all improvements of our smart contract.

2)   Why there are no refunds?

TD: No refund is our and the 99% of other ICOs policy. This is not Zara, it’s the financial technology business and if a person decide to invest in it, it must be done carefully with necessary analysis and commitment. Our whitepaper always stated that we will deliver the TDS tokens in January.

However, after the increased interest in our project, we decided to put extra effort, invited more professionals to join our team. This will result in delivering TDS tokens in the end of NOVEMBER, just a bit after the launch of our alpha platform version. The latter is planned to happen on the 15th of Nov.

3)   Do we censor our communication channels?

TD: We have blocked around 5 people for spreading irrelevant or negative information for no reason. For example - the Telegram channel is for TD community to share ideas, ask relevant questions and generate a positive vibe. Haters do not provide any added value so we reserve the right to block these commentators. No person, who ever had a decent question has been blocked. This is the way we will proceed.


4)   Is TokenDesk team experienced enough?

TD: Absolutely yes. We currently run the biggest ticketing platform in the Baltic states for over 12 years. It has generated over €71mln. revenues last year. We also have enough Blockchain experts so that we could deliver our smart contract much earlier than we planned initially (uploading to Github today, just to remind you). Fintech is another fancy word to describe a general business. We have decades of experience not only in finance based business and IT, but a lot more than that. Check backgrounds of our team members before writing such nonsensical posts, please.

5)   The whitepaper says we will deliver tokens on January 22nd.

TD: Actually, we will start delivering tokens in the end November. Just after we finish with the smart contract, tokens will be delivered to everybody.

6)   When did you plan to launch alpha?

TD: True is, we haven't planned to launch the alpha and simply go straight to beta. However, we decided to introduce our platform alpha version on the 15th of November. We made this decision due to increase of our team resources as well as the interest in TokenDesk project globally. Our team agreed to put some extra effort and show our first stage of development of the platform.

It will benefit all parties - the investors, as they will see our first steps, the general blockchain community - as they will be informed that of a new reliable and convenient direct ICO platform.

7)   Who comments on TokeDesk threads in Bitcointalk/Reddit?

TD:  9/10 negative comments we have here is created by newly created accounts. From what can be easily seen - these accounts are created a few days or weeks ago to ONLY spread negative comments on TokenDesk. False, irrelevant and misleading information is spread provoking us for no reason.

This is a part of negative PR campaign by our competitors and other time wasters. Unfortunately, there is no way for us to control the spread of this information.

We always appreciate constructive remarks.

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TD: If anyone has any questions regarding TokenDesk business, please contact our CEO directly.
The team is more than happy to provide more information about our project. Here’s the email you can always drop a line: gintaras.tamosiunas@tokendesk.io

It is unfortunate, that some people have such poor business ethics and spread absolutely false facts about TokenDesk throughout the internet. We cannot stop that, nor we will, but what we can (and will) do is answer all your questions and show that our business is transparent and open to everyone.


Couple of important facts:

1.   We have uploaded our smart contract on Github TODAY, here is the link: https://github.com/TokeDesk/TDS
2.   We will be launching the alpha version on 15th Nov.
3.   We will start delivering the TDS tokens to our supporters in the end of November.
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November 11, 2017, 09:52:46 AM
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TokenDesk - you keep posting the same reply in response to the warning posted above. However, you fail address the issues raised in the warning post, particularly in regards to your team members, their backgrounds and the matter of the CEO appointment.
Can you please provide a statement on these matters.
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