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September 22, 2017, 04:58:08 PM
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1x MX-4 Thermal Paste, Carbon Based High Performance Thermal Compound,4 Grams

1x Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

6x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GAMING OC 11GB Graphic Cards N108TGAMINGOC-11GD

2x EVGA 500 W1, 80+ WHITE 500W, 3 Year Warranty, Power Supply 100-W1-0500-KR  

1x Rocketfish 750W PSU

(3 different kind of PSU- 2 are 500W and one is 750watt which I have at home)

1x Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB DDR4 Dram 2400 MHz C14 Memory Kit PC4-19200 CMK8GX4M1A2400C14

1x Intel BX80662G4400 Pentium Processor G4400, 3.3 GHz

1x T-Module PCI-E Express 1x to 16x Powered Riser Cables 0.6m USB3.0 SATA to Molex 6 Pin Kit Pack of 6

1x ASROCK Bitcoin Mining H110 Pro BTC+ | 13x PCIE slots, ATX motherboard | Socket 1151, DDR4, 1x M.2

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1x keyboard

1x mouse

1x monitor

1x hdmi wire

1x windows 10 pro



What else do I need?
Am I missing some other wires and what not?
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September 22, 2017, 05:00:25 PM
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1x MX-4 Thermal Paste, Carbon Based High Performance Thermal Compound,4 Grams

1x Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

6x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GAMING OC 11GB Graphic Cards N108TGAMINGOC-11GD

2x EVGA 500 W1, 80+ WHITE 500W, 3 Year Warranty, Power Supply 100-W1-0500-KR  

1x Rocketfish 750W PSU

(3 different kind of PSU- 2 are 500W and one is 750watt which I have at home)

1x Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB DDR4 Dram 2400 MHz C14 Memory Kit PC4-19200 CMK8GX4M1A2400C14

1x Intel BX80662G4400 Pentium Processor G4400, 3.3 GHz

1x T-Module PCI-E Express 1x to 16x Powered Riser Cables 0.6m USB3.0 SATA to Molex 6 Pin Kit Pack of 6

1x ASROCK Bitcoin Mining H110 Pro BTC+ | 13x PCIE slots, ATX motherboard | Socket 1151, DDR4, 1x M.2

1x
PNY CS1311 120GB 2.5” SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

1x keyboard

1x mouse

1x monitor

1x hdmi wire

1x windows 10 pro



What else do I need?
Am I missing some other wires and what not?


woooah, 6x 1080 ti gpus and 2x500 watt and a 750? that'll be a really confusing setup, cross wiring psus to gpus and its not enough power unless you lower the TDP quite a bit.. you'll want probably 2 1000 watt PSUs instead

dont use the Molex risers, you'll want the 6 pins instead... a lot of issues with the molex risers in old threads

but other than that you have everything. Are you making your own case or putting them on a rack?

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September 22, 2017, 05:07:59 PM
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There's no need for a CPU cooler, the stock cooler is enough (60-70 °C) - that is if you buy an box version and not a tray version (which doesn't come with a fan).

I wouldn't use 3 PSUs, only two. Those 6 cards can pull 1800 watts (2250 watts with power limit increased - depending on the BIOS) plus the rig itself is around 70 watts and I usually leave 20% headroom so I'd aim for a sum of 2,2 KW PSUs. IF you're planning on running them at 100% power (300W) which is not advised.

Also, if you have another computer or even a smartphone, you can manage the rig remotely with something like Teamviewer so the monitor/keyboard/mouse is only really required when you first set things up (or if something shits itself which you can't solve remotely).

I'd also not use windows 10, it's annoying but it's up to preference.

Everything else looks okay.

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September 22, 2017, 05:09:28 PM
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You do realise it'll take you one and a half years to get your investment back?... IF profitability stays at today's levels...
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September 22, 2017, 05:17:37 PM
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Good I have some suggestions
Instead of going with 3 PSUs try to go with 2 or even 1 PSU.
You can add 1 more GPU by using M2 to PCIE adapter without any issue.
Also, Instead of purchasing only 6x PCIE risers buy  atleast 12 as a backup, their QA is sketchy.
Good Luck for your next built.
 



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September 22, 2017, 05:19:45 PM
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Good I have some suggestions
Instead of going with 3 PSUs try to go with 2 or even 1 PSU.
You can add 1 more GPU by using M2 to PCIE adapter without any issue.
Also, Instead of purchasing only 6x PCIE risers buy  atleast 12 as a backup, their QA is sketchy.
Good Luck for your next built.
 

Yeah, definitely.

You do realise it'll take you one and a half years to get your investment back?... IF profitability stays at today's levels...

Only if you mine something dumb like Eth, my 1080 Ti's currently have 170 days to ROI at only 180 watts, all hardware included.

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September 22, 2017, 05:22:34 PM
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Over $4000 in cards and trying to save $ on a PSU, that's the most important part of rig for stability. Those PSU's are NOT made for mining rigs! If you plan on mining for the long term, you NEED a quality PSU that can handle the load you are asking of it. Go with a EVGA 1000 W P2 and a 750 W P2. That will give you 10 PCI-E connectors. 4 of the 8-PIN PCI-E cables will have a 6-pin pigtail that you will need for the cards and for the other two you will need to use a PCI-E 8-pin to dual 6+2 spiltter or order two more additional  PCI-E 8-pin + 6-pin pigtail cables from EVGA. You can use the remaining 4 PCI-E 8-pin (6+2) cables to power the PCI-E 6-pin risers, using PCI-E 8-pin to dual 6+2 spiltters.

You can also go with a single EVGA 1600 P2/T2 PSU that has 9 PCI-E connectors and 5 8-pin + 6-pin cables.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/20CM-Black-Sleeved-8-Pin-PCI-E-GPU-to-Dual-8-6-2-Pin-Splitter-PC/32688175733.html
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September 22, 2017, 05:24:56 PM
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You do realise it'll take you one and a half years to get your investment back?... IF profitability stays at today's levels...


I don't think ROI is that high, unless his/her's electricity is ridiculous

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September 22, 2017, 05:27:39 PM
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Good I have some suggestions
Instead of going with 3 PSUs try to go with 2 or even 1 PSU.
You can add 1 more GPU by using M2 to PCIE adapter without any issue.
Also, Instead of purchasing only 6x PCIE risers buy  atleast 12 as a backup, their QA is sketchy.
Good Luck for your next built.
 

Yeah, definitely.

You do realise it'll take you one and a half years to get your investment back?... IF profitability stays at today's levels...

Only if you mine something dumb like Eth, my 1080 Ti's currently have 170 days to ROI at only 180 watts, all hardware included.

To make up $5000 in 170 days, you would need to make $30 a day or $5 per card WITHOUT power costs included. That's NOT going to happen.
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September 22, 2017, 05:28:16 PM
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Over $4000 in cards and trying to save $ on a PSU, that's the most important part of rig for stability. Those PSU's are NOT made for mining rigs! If you plan on mining for the long term, you NEED a quality PSU that can handle the load you are asking of it. Go with a EVGA 1000 W P2 and a 750 W P2. That will give you 10 PCI-E connectors. 4 of the 8-PIN PCI-E cables will have a 6-pin pigtail that you will need for the cards and for the other two you will need to use a PCI-E 8-pin to dual 6+2 spiltter or order two more additional  PCI-E 8-pin + 6-pin pigtail cables from EVGA. You can use the remaining 4 PCI-E 8-pin (6+2) cables to power the PCI-E 6-pin risers, using PCI-E 8-pin to dual 6+2 spiltters.

You can also go with a single EVGA 1600 P2/T2 PSU that has 9 PCI-E connectors and 5 8-pin + 6-pin cables.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/20CM-Black-Sleeved-8-Pin-PCI-E-GPU-to-Dual-8-6-2-Pin-Splitter-PC/32688175733.html

The 750 watt might not be enough, you'll easily reach the 90-100% max capacity which isn't good long term for the PSU

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September 22, 2017, 05:39:10 PM
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I am sure, you should have at least 1500W PSU for 6x 1080Ti.

1080Ti has about 200W TDP, and they will consume a lot of energy.

Only one 750W PSU is not enough for the rig.
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September 22, 2017, 05:44:54 PM
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Buy PCIE risers, not Molex or Sata ones..... and as many above pointed out, you need to choose quality PSUs. For one thing, Rocketfish is junk and I wouldn't install it in an Office PC personally, let alone a mining rig. You will need 1 top of the line 1600 watt PSU at the absolute minimum, or a pair of 850 watts PSUs should work if they are good quality and provide all the cables you need. I would spend the extra $19-20 and get an Add2PSU adapter if you go with 2 PSUs instead of one large one. You may also want to buy a power button unless that motherboard has one built in, or you want to start it with a screwdriver every time.....
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September 22, 2017, 05:48:35 PM
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You dont need to pay 50$ for Cool Master, just use stock cooler. For CPU, Intel Celeron G3930 is enough.

Each card 1080 may draw 240 - 280W depends on your OC setting, so it is impossible to use your available 500W PSU to supply 2 cards. Also, using more than 2 PSUs is not good idea.
For PSU, I recommend you use 2 PSUs: 1200W + 1000W or your 750W (you have in hand) + 1600W, 2200W should be fine for long running (2200W means your rig runs at 70-80% TDP).

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September 22, 2017, 05:58:01 PM
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Get rid of Windows, the keyboard, mouse & monitor. You don't need them! Oh & you don't need thermal paste since the CPUs come with some on them already.  As for the PSU calculate the card's wattage x # of cards, add 10-15watts each riser, 50ish watts for the CPU & another 100 watts for the MOBO(just to be safe). I have 7x 1070s running on 1000watt PSU just fine, but couldn't do more than that. I love EVGA PSUs! For smaller operations w/o 220-250v their great! & if you do this: https://www.evga.com/power-meter/ they'll give you 10% off your 1st purchase with them.

As for the whole OS/no windows thing. For your 1st rig I would highly suggest PiMP (getpimp.org). $30 one time, you write the file to the SSD(using a USB to SATA adapter), plug it into your rig, boot & get the rig's IP address from your router. From there you can use SSH(putty) to login(user:root, password: live), enter your PiMP Key you bought, edit claymore.dual.pcfg file to put in your wallet address & pool info, then edit the gpu-config.json file like this: https://getpimp.org/faq/fancontrols/ to overclock, set fan speed & undervolt your cards as needed.
That's it!

If this is your 1st rig please take my advise. Hell, you could call me & I'd walk you through it in 5 minutes. Save yourself a lot of headache dude! No Windows, 100% headless. PM me if you need any help Smiley Welcome to the club!
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September 22, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
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Buy PCIE risers, not Molex or Sata ones..... and as many above pointed out, you need to choose quality PSUs. For one thing, Rocketfish is junk and I wouldn't install it in an Office PC personally, let alone a mining rig. You will need 1 top of the line 1600 watt PSU at the absolute minimum, or a pair of 850 watts PSUs should work if they are good quality and provide all the cables you need. I would spend the extra $19-20 and get an Add2PSU adapter if you go with 2 PSUs instead of one large one. You may also want to buy a power button unless that motherboard has one built in, or you want to start it with a screwdriver every time.....

The ASRock H110 Pro BTC+ has power & reset buttons on the board Smiley

Also I agree about the risers. I use these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072XCSGZZ w/o the SATA adapters & for my EVGA PSUs that only have 2 VGA Y-cables I add these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JLU0UQ4 to the other 4 to get 12 8/6 pin. These: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Athena-Power-Dual-4-pin-Molex-to-Dual-8-pin-6-2-PCI-Express-Cable-Cable-PCIE4628/122305468190 are decent to power risers too if you run out of 6 pins, but NEVER EVER try to power GPUs with anything but 8/6+2 pins!
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https://www.amazon.ca/6-Pack-Powered-Riser-Adapter-Extension/dp/B06ZY2R85P/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1506107402&sr=8-2&keywords=pcie+riser


Is this one good? 

Also, I hear you all regarding profit. It's about accumulation. At the very least a person can continue accumulating BTC via mining alt coins and auto converting but to each their own.



https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-SuperNOVA-TITANIUM-Warranty-220-T2-1600-X1/dp/B00R33ZBQU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506107657&sr=1-1&keywords=1600w+power+supply

This power supply good?


I, opted for 2 PSU because they are cheaper than 1 1600W lol and also- I already have 750W at home, I also already have the CPU cooler with me, so it won't be extra money.


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As many already said here, psu for me is the most important component of a system cause anything related to the electricity happens, the psu might get burned, fried or stop working however its main job is to protect all other components of your system to not fry.

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Buy PCIE risers, not Molex or Sata ones..... and as many above pointed out, you need to choose quality PSUs. For one thing, Rocketfish is junk and I wouldn't install it in an Office PC personally, let alone a mining rig. You will need 1 top of the line 1600 watt PSU at the absolute minimum, or a pair of 850 watts PSUs should work if they are good quality and provide all the cables you need. I would spend the extra $19-20 and get an Add2PSU adapter if you go with 2 PSUs instead of one large one. You may also want to buy a power button unless that motherboard has one built in, or you want to start it with a screwdriver every time.....

You can get the ADD2PSU for like $9-10 dollars right now on Amazon w/ prime. (as of writing this post)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07378V1ZK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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September 26, 2017, 01:02:59 AM
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Skip the mouse and keyboard and get this

https://www.banggood.com/Wireless-Keyboard-with-Touchpad-Mouse-Combo-For-Mac-Windows-Android-p-908886.html?rmmds=search

https://www.banggood.com/IPazzport-Mini-2_4G-France-Layout-Wireless-Keyboard-Touchpad-Mouse-For-Android-TV-Tablet-p-1169627.html?rmmds=detail-left-hotproducts

also get the G3930, its all you need
Only need 4GB RAM

Also, get a M.2 for the SSD, no need for more cables.

Dont get a dedicated monitor, remotely log in after it is setup using teamviewer

Don't buy windows 10, just install it and click you dont have a code. Works fine.
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I am sure, you should have at least 1500W PSU for 6x 1080Ti.

1080Ti has about 200W TDP, and they will consume a lot of energy.

Only one 750W PSU is not enough for the rig.

 Stock TDP on a GTX 1080 ti starts at 250 watts and some aftermarket cards MIGHT BE HIGHER.

 I wouldn't even THINK about trying to run a pair of them on a 500 watt supply, and 2 of them + rest of system on a single 750 is going to be a bit marginal for reliability.

 Existing power supplies would be enough for most GTX 1080 models (the MSI Armor has a 240 watt TDP but in my experience with one it rarely got over 200 even WITH overclocking).


 G4400 box cooler is PLENTY to keep it cool - my G4600 with the box cooler in a NON A/C ENVIRONMENT runs a lot cooler than the GPUs in the system.

 M.2 NVMe uses PCI-E lanes and on some motherboards may shut down one or more slots (probably NOT an issue with the motherboard OP posted though).
 M.2 SATA shouldn't have that issue, but tends to be more expensive than a conventional hard drive.
 IMO if you're going to go that route use a USB flash drive, plenty fast enough and much lower cost.

 Windows 10 IMO is a bad choice for a dedicated miner - if you have to use Windows for mining go Win7, but better yet go with one of the LINUX-based mining distributions.


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