BTX Distribution-Oct 30th

[tylerik1]

Please choose whichever choice you think is best but please read the brief descriptions for each choice that are given. If you need more background information then be sure to read the announcement page.

*edit* The link below is to the announcement page and it will explain what BTX is if you don't already know.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1883902.0

1. Dev's Distribution Plan

Have a one time +25% weekly airdrop for BTX holders on October 30th while continuing the 3% weekly airdrop upon registration. Additionally, All BTC holders having .001 BTC at the time of the second snapshot will get BTX at a ratio of .4 BTX per 1 BTC. the devs will retain 10% of all unclaimed coins for future development and compensation.

*edit* Here is the devs projections upon request.

https://imgur.com/a/7TWPg


2. Hybrid Distribution Plan (My Proposed Plan)

On October 30th 25% of the unclaimed coins will be airdropped to BTX holders in proportion to the percentage that they own. (excluding the accounts the devs control) All BTC holders with more that .001 BTC at the time of the second snapshot will get BTX at a ratio of .4 BTX per 1 BTC. The developers would then still have enough coins they control to perform 3% weekly airdrops until late February. After that the coin would be fully distributed out to the public. The developers would still retain the 10% of the unclaimed coins on Oct 30th for future development and compensation. This is roughly how numbers would be distributed out under this proposal. The second link shows the benefits of not dumping your coins after the drop since the 3% weekly airdrops would continue for 4 months or so under this plan. This should be a check on the potential dump that could occur. Smart investors will definitely hold their coins for the long term.

https://imgur.com/a/GJq27
https://imgur.com/DBRyH9O

3. Continue 3% Weekly Airdrop

This would be the simplest and slowest method of all and it would simply continue the 3% weekly airdrops until the coin is fully distributed. The developers would still get 10% of the unclaimed coins for development and compensation.

*edit* This one is too long for me to want to project out. It isn't that hard since it is in an excel spreadsheet with formulas but I still have to manually punch in the dates.

Nice to see that youre going to discuss with the community about the future airdrops. I would prefer the third method (Continue 3% Weekly Airdrop)! I think its a nice feature for all the people that just want to hold it. If we just do one big distribution, the most are going to sell their coins instantly in my opinion.

[crypt0kid]

Please choose whichever choice you think is best but please read the brief descriptions for each choice that are given. If you need more background information then be sure to read the announcement page.

*edit* The link below is to the announcement page and it will explain what BTX is if you don't already know.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1883902.0

1. Dev's Distribution Plan

Have a one time +25% weekly airdrop for BTX holders on October 30th while continuing the 3% weekly airdrop upon registration. Additionally, All BTC holders having .001 BTC at the time of the second snapshot will get BTX at a ratio of .4 BTX per 1 BTC. the devs will retain 10% of all unclaimed coins for future development and compensation.

*edit* Here is the devs projections upon request.

https://imgur.com/a/7TWPg


2. Hybrid Distribution Plan (My Proposed Plan)

On October 30th 25% of the unclaimed coins will be airdropped to BTX holders in proportion to the percentage that they own. (excluding the accounts the devs control) All BTC holders with more that .001 BTC at the time of the second snapshot will get BTX at a ratio of .4 BTX per 1 BTC. The developers would then still have enough coins they control to perform 3% weekly airdrops until late February. After that the coin would be fully distributed out to the public. The developers would still retain the 10% of the unclaimed coins on Oct 30th for future development and compensation. This is roughly how numbers would be distributed out under this proposal. The second link shows the benefits of not dumping your coins after the drop since the 3% weekly airdrops would continue for 4 months or so under this plan. This should be a check on the potential dump that could occur. Smart investors will definitely hold their coins for the long term.

https://imgur.com/a/GJq27
https://imgur.com/DBRyH9O

3. Continue 3% Weekly Airdrop

This would be the simplest and slowest method of all and it would simply continue the 3% weekly airdrops until the coin is fully distributed. The developers would still get 10% of the unclaimed coins for development and compensation.

*edit* This one is too long for me to want to project out. It isn't that hard since it is in an excel spreadsheet with formulas but I still have to manually punch in the dates.

Nice to see that youre going to discuss with the community about the future airdrops. I would prefer the third method (Continue 3% Weekly Airdrop)! I think its a nice feature for all the people that just want to hold it. If we just do one big distribution, the most are going to sell their coins instantly in my opinion.

I think the issue with continuing with the 3% airdrop with no big payout is the fact that it will take a very long time for all of the premined coins to be distributed. If you are to pursue the current plan with no major airdrop of 25%, then we should look into an incremental increase in the percentage of the airdrops. Not only will this speed up the distribution of the coins, but it will also create added excitement and anticipation. In either case, make sure to tick the box of your preferred option.

[andrei1982]

exactly like i said!

[tj4dmx]

Vote for "2. Hybrid Distribution Plan"

[Kryptowerk]

I like the Hybrid Plan... but maybe not 25% of 15Mln?!

25% of 15,517,032 = 3,879,258 / 6122 = 633.658608298

That is a lot of coins. We can think that some people may dump half of it 316.82930414 and will still get 9.48 in the Weekly 3%. That sound a good deal for someone expecting to dump.

15% of 15,517,032 = 2,327,554.8 / 6122 = 380.19516497 If 50% Dump = 190.09758248 Then Weekly %3 = 5.70292747


Maybe the dump not happen, maybe it will. Better safe then sorry.

I agree, better safe than sorry and go with a nice +25% (guys, that's still a ton of coins).
If I had the chance to jump into a crypto project were early investors got several 100% on their holdings I would feel a little bit scammed for sure. I wouldn't even be very excited about upcoming 3% or even higher airdrops.
Remember: people say Dash is a scam just because the early mining wasn't distributed in the fairest manner.

Its a possibility that some may sell but to me it is worth it in the long run and the smartest people will keep their 3% weekly distributions after the drop. This is what it would look like if you had 1500 coins and held until February. To me being distributed to the public in the hybrid method would bring legitimacy to the project because it would appear to look less like a scam coin. Obviously it isn't a scam but having the devs still controlling a lion share of the coins for another year is kind of negative too.

https://imgur.com/DBRyH9O

Doesn't matter if the smartest people keep their coins, because if a lot of people start dumping the smart thing would be to dump and rebuy at a lower price. But even if 50% of people just hodl (I doubt it) the price will drop significantly with the other 50% dumping some or most of their BTX. That wouldn't matter much as the price might recover soon - unless BTX gets recognized as a coin-with-suspicious-behaviour.
I know for sure I would be suspious. Remember when HShare popped into the top10 on cmc out of nothing - I found that very strange and since then look at it as a possible semi-scam-coin.
My guess is, anybody not knowing much about Bitcore and then suddenly seeing it in the top50 or higher for a few hours/days/minutes and the dumping hard again, will just be very uneasy what to make of it.
That's why I am for option 1.

Also, it leaves more room for a healthy, slower growth rate and gives all the people a chance to get into BTX that still have never heared about it.

Just as an example: Of all my friends maybe 20% know a little about crypto. And none of them ever heared of BTX before I told them about it. Still a long way to go. Patience is key for a sustainable project. Don't try to get it all at once and good things will come your way. Just my opinion.

What I am missing in this poll are some variations that were discussed in the main BTX thread. I would suggest to open an other poll after Oct. 30th if enough good ideas come up to include.

[gwestcot]

I like the Hybrid Plan... but maybe not 25% of 15Mln?!

25% of 15,517,032 = 3,879,258 / 6122 = 633.658608298

That is a lot of coins. We can think that some people may dump half of it 316.82930414 and will still get 9.48 in the Weekly 3%. That sound a good deal for someone expecting to dump.

15% of 15,517,032 = 2,327,554.8 / 6122 = 380.19516497 If 50% Dump = 190.09758248 Then Weekly %3 = 5.70292747


Maybe the dump not happen, maybe it will. Better safe then sorry.

I agree, better safe than sorry and go with a nice +25% (guys, that's still a ton of coins).
If I had the chance to jump into a crypto project were early investors got several 100% on their holdings I would feel a little bit scammed for sure. I wouldn't even be very excited about upcoming 3% or even higher airdrops.
Remember: people say Dash is a scam just because the early mining wasn't distributed in the fairest manner.

Its a possibility that some may sell but to me it is worth it in the long run and the smartest people will keep their 3% weekly distributions after the drop. This is what it would look like if you had 1500 coins and held until February. To me being distributed to the public in the hybrid method would bring legitimacy to the project because it would appear to look less like a scam coin. Obviously it isn't a scam but having the devs still controlling a lion share of the coins for another year is kind of negative too.

https://imgur.com/DBRyH9O

Doesn't matter if the smartest people keep their coins, because if a lot of people start dumping the smart thing would be to dump and rebuy at a lower price. But even if 50% of people just hodl (I doubt it) the price will drop significantly with the other 50% dumping some or most of their BTX. That wouldn't matter much as the price might recover soon - unless BTX gets recognized as a coin-with-suspicious-behaviour.
I know for sure I would be suspious. Remember when HShare popped into the top10 on cmc out of nothing - I found that very strange and since then look at it as a possible semi-scam-coin.
My guess is, anybody not knowing much about Bitcore and then suddenly seeing it in the top50 or higher for a few hours/days/minutes and the dumping hard again, will just be very uneasy what to make of it.
That's why I am for option 1.

Also, it leaves more room for a healthy, slower growth rate and gives all the people a chance to get into BTX that still have never heared about it.

Just as an example: Of all my friends maybe 20% know a little about crypto. And none of them ever heared of BTX before I told them about it. Still a long way to go. Patience is key for a sustainable project. Don't try to get it all at once and good things will come your way. Just my opinion.

What I am missing in this poll are some variations that were discussed in the main BTX thread. I would suggest to open an other poll after Oct. 30th if enough good ideas come up to include.

Ya I think the best choice of all is the latest iteration of the hybrid plan which is basically the devs plan with 10% weekly airdrops following the 25% special airdrop. It is more gradual but still gets the coins distributed by late February.

[SlowGrowth]

I like the Hybrid Plan... but maybe not 25% of 15Mln?!

25% of 15,517,032 = 3,879,258 / 6122 = 633.658608298

That is a lot of coins. We can think that some people may dump half of it 316.82930414 and will still get 9.48 in the Weekly 3%. That sound a good deal for someone expecting to dump.

15% of 15,517,032 = 2,327,554.8 / 6122 = 380.19516497 If 50% Dump = 190.09758248 Then Weekly %3 = 5.70292747


Maybe the dump not happen, maybe it will. Better safe then sorry.

I agree, better safe than sorry and go with a nice +25% (guys, that's still a ton of coins).
If I had the chance to jump into a crypto project were early investors got several 100% on their holdings I would feel a little bit scammed for sure. I wouldn't even be very excited about upcoming 3% or even higher airdrops.
Remember: people say Dash is a scam just because the early mining wasn't distributed in the fairest manner.

Its a possibility that some may sell but to me it is worth it in the long run and the smartest people will keep their 3% weekly distributions after the drop. This is what it would look like if you had 1500 coins and held until February. To me being distributed to the public in the hybrid method would bring legitimacy to the project because it would appear to look less like a scam coin. Obviously it isn't a scam but having the devs still controlling a lion share of the coins for another year is kind of negative too.

https://imgur.com/DBRyH9O

Doesn't matter if the smartest people keep their coins, because if a lot of people start dumping the smart thing would be to dump and rebuy at a lower price. But even if 50% of people just hodl (I doubt it) the price will drop significantly with the other 50% dumping some or most of their BTX. That wouldn't matter much as the price might recover soon - unless BTX gets recognized as a coin-with-suspicious-behaviour.
I know for sure I would be suspious. Remember when HShare popped into the top10 on cmc out of nothing - I found that very strange and since then look at it as a possible semi-scam-coin.
My guess is, anybody not knowing much about Bitcore and then suddenly seeing it in the top50 or higher for a few hours/days/minutes and the dumping hard again, will just be very uneasy what to make of it.
That's why I am for option 1.

Also, it leaves more room for a healthy, slower growth rate and gives all the people a chance to get into BTX that still have never heared about it.

Just as an example: Of all my friends maybe 20% know a little about crypto. And none of them ever heared of BTX before I told them about it. Still a long way to go. Patience is key for a sustainable project. Don't try to get it all at once and good things will come your way. Just my opinion.

What I am missing in this poll are some variations that were discussed in the main BTX thread. I would suggest to open an other poll after Oct. 30th if enough good ideas come up to include.

Ya I think the best choice of all is the latest iteration of the hybrid plan which is basically the devs plan with 10% weekly airdrops following the 25% special airdrop. It is more gradual but still gets the coins distributed by late February.

I have to agree... The hybrid distribution plan protects more the real supporters of the project and also allow a quicker distribution that following just the 3% plan... I also agree that continuing with the 3% airdrop to all holders will also create a compensation for people to not sell their big 25% airdrop...

[fabioganga]

Hello, I cannot see the option to vote, only the results so far and I would like to vote.

What am I doing wrong? 

Thanks

[pauerdragz]

how to vote?

[gwestcot]

how to vote?

You should be able to click a button next to the option of your choice. I saw people voted over the night so it still must be working.

[starskey]

How do you vote? I think the Dev's plan makes more sense for consistency's sake.

[stzcze]

Maybe voting is forbidden, for newbie ... I can not vote.

[gwestcot]

Thank you for the poll.

Kind Regards Christian

I personally do not agree with this poll. The options presented are not complete. There are additional options which should have been included. The poll creator is obviously biased because he is setting up his plan as the best option, but fails to present additional potential options that would benefit the community. You have to understand that most people are going to choose the side that gives them more coins. Greed is a powerful thing in the crypto world. Any one time 25% payment will result in a major dump and a price drop. There is no way around it. The continuing 3% airdrops are enticing, but the opportunity to cash out will be too great for most people.

You should include one additional option, which is a gradual increase in the percentage of the payout. For example, 15% payout on October 30th and then 5% ongoing airdrop for the month of November. Then an increase in the payout to between 6-8% for the month of December. Then in January, an increase to between 8-10%. In the month of February, you can adjust the percentage, so that the remaining coins will be fully distributed. I can guarantee that this plan would have more and more people joining the community in order to get some of the airdrop.

The plan that I just proposed is a hybrid of the hybrid. It still gives a good payout in October, yet it leaves incentive for BTX holders to continue to hold on to their coins knowing that the airdrops are going to increase in the coming months.

If you make a large payout at one time and only offer 3% going forward, a large number of people will sell their holding and tank the coin. I believe that a gradual percentage increase will be a much better strategy for the continued growth of BTX and the community.

Ya I mean that would be fine too but really my hybrid was just to compromise with what the devs wanted. I would also be more than ok with your plan as well or some variation of it. To be honest I crunched the numbers on the devs plan and it works out for me personally as well so I make out like a bandit no matter which choice we go with... I really just think that a quicker distribution if done correctly adds legitimacy to the project and it will look more attractive to new investors and old ones alike. The real value will be in development so once we figure this out then the coin can move forward in the positive direction. Distribution is always the problem with severely pre-mined coins... Honestly I would also be more than fine with just doing 10% weekly airdrop until all the coins are distributed but I really hated the plan that was chosen by the devs.

*edit* Maybe we can do their drop to BTC holders, their +25% one time airdrop, and 10% weekly airdrops going forward until all coins are distributed? That seems like an even better hybrid plan than even the original one. It is more gradual but still gets those coins distributed more quickly.

I don't have a problem with the 25% one time drop, butif the percentage needs to be decreased in order to institute a solid weekly airdrop plan going forward, then I believe that it should be adjusted. I believe that the weekly airdrops should be increased incrementally. Just paying out 10% for weekly airdrops is way too much of a jump from 3%. If the percentage is increased over a period of time, you get greater buildup of anticipation and word will spread more rapidly. Friends will message each other, "Hey the airdrop is increasing from 5% to 7% next week get some BTX into a wallet before Monday" or "The airdrop is increasing from 7% to 9% next week, you better get some BTX into your wallet before then". The exact percentage isn't the most important factor, it's the excitement that your percentage is being increased. In my opinion 5% would be a great starting airdrop and then increase upward from there. I don't think that there's ever been a crypto that has done something like that. In my opinion, it will spread like wildfire.

It is a fairly big jump in percentage but it won't cause a big dump so to me minimizes the chances of the one thing everyone fears. It then gets the coins distributed quickly and fairly to everyone from new people to old people. The incremental increases are fine but a flat rate is more simple to implement. As far as word of mouth... If 10% weekly airdrops isn't enough for you to want to come over and buy some BTX then nothing will entice you to come over. It is largely all the anticipation anyone should need for a coin that has phenomenal advantages over many of the other currencies on the market.

[darmax]

yes, I can not vote the button is not displayed for newbies

[genopark]

great, this is what i get for being a newb

[gwestcot]

Ya I don't know but maybe bitcointalk has certain rules about that.

[crypt0kid]

Thank you for the poll.

Kind Regards Christian

I personally do not agree with this poll. The options presented are not complete. There are additional options which should have been included. The poll creator is obviously biased because he is setting up his plan as the best option, but fails to present additional potential options that would benefit the community. You have to understand that most people are going to choose the side that gives them more coins. Greed is a powerful thing in the crypto world. Any one time 25% payment will result in a major dump and a price drop. There is no way around it. The continuing 3% airdrops are enticing, but the opportunity to cash out will be too great for most people.

You should include one additional option, which is a gradual increase in the percentage of the payout. For example, 15% payout on October 30th and then 5% ongoing airdrop for the month of November. Then an increase in the payout to between 6-8% for the month of December. Then in January, an increase to between 8-10%. In the month of February, you can adjust the percentage, so that the remaining coins will be fully distributed. I can guarantee that this plan would have more and more people joining the community in order to get some of the airdrop.

The plan that I just proposed is a hybrid of the hybrid. It still gives a good payout in October, yet it leaves incentive for BTX holders to continue to hold on to their coins knowing that the airdrops are going to increase in the coming months.

If you make a large payout at one time and only offer 3% going forward, a large number of people will sell their holding and tank the coin. I believe that a gradual percentage increase will be a much better strategy for the continued growth of BTX and the community.

Ya I mean that would be fine too but really my hybrid was just to compromise with what the devs wanted. I would also be more than ok with your plan as well or some variation of it. To be honest I crunched the numbers on the devs plan and it works out for me personally as well so I make out like a bandit no matter which choice we go with... I really just think that a quicker distribution if done correctly adds legitimacy to the project and it will look more attractive to new investors and old ones alike. The real value will be in development so once we figure this out then the coin can move forward in the positive direction. Distribution is always the problem with severely pre-mined coins... Honestly I would also be more than fine with just doing 10% weekly airdrop until all the coins are distributed but I really hated the plan that was chosen by the devs.

*edit* Maybe we can do their drop to BTC holders, their +25% one time airdrop, and 10% weekly airdrops going forward until all coins are distributed? That seems like an even better hybrid plan than even the original one. It is more gradual but still gets those coins distributed more quickly.

I don't have a problem with the 25% one time drop, butif the percentage needs to be decreased in order to institute a solid weekly airdrop plan going forward, then I believe that it should be adjusted. I believe that the weekly airdrops should be increased incrementally. Just paying out 10% for weekly airdrops is way too much of a jump from 3%. If the percentage is increased over a period of time, you get greater buildup of anticipation and word will spread more rapidly. Friends will message each other, "Hey the airdrop is increasing from 5% to 7% next week get some BTX into a wallet before Monday" or "The airdrop is increasing from 7% to 9% next week, you better get some BTX into your wallet before then". The exact percentage isn't the most important factor, it's the excitement that your percentage is being increased. In my opinion 5% would be a great starting airdrop and then increase upward from there. I don't think that there's ever been a crypto that has done something like that. In my opinion, it will spread like wildfire.

It is a fairly big jump in percentage but it won't cause a big dump so to me minimizes the chances of the one thing everyone fears. It then gets the coins distributed quickly and fairly to everyone from new people to old people. The incremental increases are fine but a flat rate is more simple to implement. As far as word of mouth... If 10% weekly airdrops isn't enough for you to want to come over and buy some BTX then nothing will entice you to come over. It is largely all the anticipation anyone should need for a coin that has phenomenal advantages over many of the other currencies on the market.

This message is for gwestcot:
Are you part of this project? If not, then why only list the options that you find favorable? Does someone else need to list a separate poll in order to get a bit of objectivity? You listed your own plan. Then I proposed an incremental percentage increase in the airdrops. Instead of listing that option, you starting pumping your own option of a straight 10% airdrop. If you are to take this poll on with objectivity, you need to list all of the options that are suggested, not just the ones that you would like to see happen.

My take is that you want as many coins as possible, as fast as possible. Call me skeptical, but I get the impression that you will be the first to dump your coins as soon as it arrives in your wallet. Every option that you have pushed for has to do with getting as many coins as quickly as possible. I sense an ulterior motive with you. You come across as extremely greedy and you don't care about a coin dump because you will be the first to sell. Now, if you are truly objective, you will let all of the options and not just the ones that you prefer.

[gwestcot]

Thank you for the poll.

Kind Regards Christian

I personally do not agree with this poll. The options presented are not complete. There are additional options which should have been included. The poll creator is obviously biased because he is setting up his plan as the best option, but fails to present additional potential options that would benefit the community. You have to understand that most people are going to choose the side that gives them more coins. Greed is a powerful thing in the crypto world. Any one time 25% payment will result in a major dump and a price drop. There is no way around it. The continuing 3% airdrops are enticing, but the opportunity to cash out will be too great for most people.

You should include one additional option, which is a gradual increase in the percentage of the payout. For example, 15% payout on October 30th and then 5% ongoing airdrop for the month of November. Then an increase in the payout to between 6-8% for the month of December. Then in January, an increase to between 8-10%. In the month of February, you can adjust the percentage, so that the remaining coins will be fully distributed. I can guarantee that this plan would have more and more people joining the community in order to get some of the airdrop.

The plan that I just proposed is a hybrid of the hybrid. It still gives a good payout in October, yet it leaves incentive for BTX holders to continue to hold on to their coins knowing that the airdrops are going to increase in the coming months.

If you make a large payout at one time and only offer 3% going forward, a large number of people will sell their holding and tank the coin. I believe that a gradual percentage increase will be a much better strategy for the continued growth of BTX and the community.

Ya I mean that would be fine too but really my hybrid was just to compromise with what the devs wanted. I would also be more than ok with your plan as well or some variation of it. To be honest I crunched the numbers on the devs plan and it works out for me personally as well so I make out like a bandit no matter which choice we go with... I really just think that a quicker distribution if done correctly adds legitimacy to the project and it will look more attractive to new investors and old ones alike. The real value will be in development so once we figure this out then the coin can move forward in the positive direction. Distribution is always the problem with severely pre-mined coins... Honestly I would also be more than fine with just doing 10% weekly airdrop until all the coins are distributed but I really hated the plan that was chosen by the devs.

*edit* Maybe we can do their drop to BTC holders, their +25% one time airdrop, and 10% weekly airdrops going forward until all coins are distributed? That seems like an even better hybrid plan than even the original one. It is more gradual but still gets those coins distributed more quickly.

I don't have a problem with the 25% one time drop, butif the percentage needs to be decreased in order to institute a solid weekly airdrop plan going forward, then I believe that it should be adjusted. I believe that the weekly airdrops should be increased incrementally. Just paying out 10% for weekly airdrops is way too much of a jump from 3%. If the percentage is increased over a period of time, you get greater buildup of anticipation and word will spread more rapidly. Friends will message each other, "Hey the airdrop is increasing from 5% to 7% next week get some BTX into a wallet before Monday" or "The airdrop is increasing from 7% to 9% next week, you better get some BTX into your wallet before then". The exact percentage isn't the most important factor, it's the excitement that your percentage is being increased. In my opinion 5% would be a great starting airdrop and then increase upward from there. I don't think that there's ever been a crypto that has done something like that. In my opinion, it will spread like wildfire.

It is a fairly big jump in percentage but it won't cause a big dump so to me minimizes the chances of the one thing everyone fears. It then gets the coins distributed quickly and fairly to everyone from new people to old people. The incremental increases are fine but a flat rate is more simple to implement. As far as word of mouth... If 10% weekly airdrops isn't enough for you to want to come over and buy some BTX then nothing will entice you to come over. It is largely all the anticipation anyone should need for a coin that has phenomenal advantages over many of the other currencies on the market.

This message is for gwestcot:
Are you part of this project? If not, then why only list the options that you find favorable? Does someone else need to list a separate poll in order to get a bit of objectivity? You listed your own plan. Then I proposed an incremental percentage increase in the airdrops. Instead of listing that option, you starting pumping your own option of a straight 10% airdrop. If you are to take this poll on with objectivity, you need to list all of the options that are suggested, not just the ones that you would like to see happen.

My take is that you want as many coins as possible, as fast as possible. Call me skeptical, but I get the impression that you will be the first to dump your coins as soon as it arrives in your wallet. Every option that you have pushed for has to do with getting as many coins as quickly as possible. I sense an ulterior motive with you. You come across as extremely greedy and you don't care about a coin dump because you will be the first to sell. Now, if you are truly objective, you will let all of the options and not just the ones that you prefer.

Well if you would like I will make a new poll but you can't change a poll once it is made because it destroys the validity of the results. Notice how I haven't changed my plan even though after talking to people there are some different options like a more gradual 10% weekly airdrop instead of a big drop from the start. Just an FYI but if I was simply in it for more coins I would definitely earn more under the devs plan which would net me 5k more coins and holding for 8 more months wouldn't kill me at all. What I want is to distribute the pre-mined coins fairly but efficiently since for sure it will turn people off that the coin was pre-mined and the devs still control the majority of it. I will not dump this coin because it has a major future and because I am greedy I will definitely keep it for the long term. I have laid out my argument in fairly logical terms but don't come at me with accusations just because more people tend to agree with me. I usually wouldn't touch a pre-mined coin with a 100 foot stick because there have been countless scam coins that have started that way but because this one showed so much promise I invested heavily in it. There are many people just like me that are skeptical of a pre-mined coin so distributing them out is key to mitigate this negative appearance. If you want the charts comparing what I would get under the devs plan and my plan then I will be happy to show them to everyone so that you see the difference. Why do you think we are still not on a larger exchange? I think you know the reason.

edit* Additionally, I will have so many coins at the end of any distribution model talked about that I wouldn't even be able to dump them all at once due to lack of liquidity. At today's prices, I will get roughly 26 BTC worth of coins but there isn't even that much on the entire buy side right now on cryptopia.  

[starskey]

great, this is what i get for being a newb

Well ok, we gotta keep writing. WOuld like to have a say, even though it says noob. Is it after 30 posts that you get an upgrade?

[gwestcot]

great, this is what i get for being a newb

Well ok, we gotta keep writing. WOuld like to have a say, even though it says noob. Is it after 30 posts that you get an upgrade?

I am not sure about the rights per rank but here is the numbers for the badges.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0