What’s up with the people looking down on us beginners?

[Vatimins]

You see, I love this forum. I really do. Because it gives us a lot of opportunities to earn bitcoins and to learn a lot of things about the crypto world. But why do I get the feeling that there is a big discrimination to us low rankers? I mean I have seen a lot already that lead me to this  thinking. Like replies on posts of low ranking members that already judge the person even when they do not know the person.  Also on bitcoin signature campaigns, only a few gives opportunities for jr.members. But hey, You know what, I get it, this is because most of us low rankers often spam because we easily get excited in the thought of earning. But is it really enough reason to judge us and think that we are trash in this forum? Or that we are not capable of doing what high rankers here can? If you have bad opinions about us, at least keep save it for people who deserve it. Not to posts that aren’t really pure trash. Although it is good to say these kind of things to open eyes, but I don’t think it is fair to say it on low rankers who actually put a fair effort in building their posts or are just really curious which is why they ask questions.

I really cannot explain any further perhaps other low rankers out there can share their thoughts too. High rankers are also welcome to say something.

[TryNinja]

High ranks get trashed aswell. Majority of the time people won't call you out because of your rank, but because of your post quality - which I would say is quite bad for almost all Newbies and Jr. Members I see around.

About the low amount of campaigns:

1. If you let Newbies or Jr. Members to join any campaign they want, people will simple create tons of accounts and spam the forum for money.

2. If you are a low rank, the chances of you not knowing anything about Bitcoin or the world of cryptocurrencies is very high. Why not spend your time studying, reading, and learning while you rank up, rather than worrying about getting into a campaign and spamming nonsense across the forum? The amount of people I see just spreading misinformation is impressive.

3. I wouldn't say your posts are of good quality. Which validate my point number 2.

[Vatimins]

High ranks get trashed aswell. Majority of the time people won't call you out because of your rank, but because of your post quality - which I would say is quite bad for almost all Newbies and Jr. Members I see around.

About the low amount of campaigns:

1. If you let Newbies or Jr. Members to join any campaign they want, people will simple create tons of accounts and spam the forum for money.

2. If you are a low rank, the chances of you not knowing anything about Bitcoin or the world of cryptocurrencies is very high. Why not spend your time studying, reading, and learning while you rank up, rather than worrying about getting into a campaign and spamming nonsense across the forum? The amount of people I see just spreading misinformation is impressive.

3. I wouldn't say your posts are of good quality. Which validate my point number 2.

I agree on your points. And they are valid. That is why I have small post counts since 2016 because I am here for the knowledge. I don’t want to spam because info i get here are special for me it helps me in trading and  having infos about scams. Many people here actually give good advices in various fields. That is why i take care of my account. Because someone said that if i get banned my IP also gets banned. My posts were merely attempts to socialize to get a feel of what people here are like. I won’t say I don’t care about campaigns but It isn’t my priority for now because i have a lot in my hands. With school, work etc. my point is that no one should look down on people just because of what their rank is. But then again. What the majority does is what people base the thought for the general.

Thanks for shading some light man. I hope a lot of newbies like me learn a lot from this. And make the image of us newbies better.

[moopser]

Hi Vitamins, completely agree with your point of view.
I registered here to be able to use search and to read interesting topics about trading issues. But really I had (and still having) a feeling that discrimination to lowrankers is higher than average.
Especially in Russian threads its level is impressive (not posting there, just reading). Was there only because needed to track btc-e issues.

However Eng forums seems to be more friendly and here for sure I saw much less inadequate people.

[Svelto]

I do not think that the people here look down on Newbies, everyone started here as a Newbie. Some people trash anyone that don’t agree with their views Let’s take it with a pinch of salt, I have seen Hero members got trashed before.

For signature programs, there are some that allows Newbies, you just have to look around.  In any case, you will be able to upgrade to Junior member in 2 weeks if you are active in the forum. You can join most of the bounty program by then. Good luck and see you around.  

[Agamemnus]

It's okay that people do that to you don't worry. They are only doing it because they feel like they were there first, and so they are kind of territorial, it's funny. But if you are able to learn more then them then you're ahead of the game.

[prodigys]

im beginner, having problem buying bitcoin as well

[Vatimins]

im beginner, having problem buying bitcoin as well

Dude, do some research about that concern. That has been answered a lot of times not just here in bitcointalk forum but also by mr.google. Don’t make us beginners look more awful than what we already look.

[elegion]

I wouldn't worry about it too much. I tend to write long book-quality posts and I mostly write for the sake of fun and enjoyment. I do understand what you're saying when it comes to the negativity that can be found in some places on this forum, but you can find that everywhere in life; it's just how people are. I wouldn't let it get me down, keep your chin up and before you know it you'll have a new set of problems to keep you occupied. What I mean is, when you're down the only direction to go is straight up.    

[moopser]

These are obvious things, especially for forums and internet. Who would take every single negative post to heart?
Sometimes its annoying.

Blessings to all noobs

*went to search for interesting signature campaigns*

[pixie85]

I do not think that the people here look down on Newbies, everyone started here as a Newbie. Some people trash anyone that don’t agree with their views Let’s take it with a pinch of salt, I have seen Hero members got trashed before.

For signature programs, there are some that allows Newbies, you just have to look around.  In any case, you will be able to upgrade to Junior member in 2 weeks if you are active in the forum. You can join most of the bounty program by then. Good luck and see you around.  

They do, but there are at least 2 reasons for that.
One is the number of spam accounts that come here just to level up either for campaign or to later sell the account for money. As a spammer it's difficult to level up to SR or Hero and not get banned, so high level accounts are usually writing decent posts, while newbies spam.
Two is the number of people who register here to post links to their sites, scam people, or sped FUD. When people see another newbie like you they put you in one of these categories without thinking twice.

[setifien19]

You see, I love this forum. I really do. Because it gives us a lot of opportunities to earn bitcoins and to learn a lot of things about the crypto world. But why do I get the feeling that there is a big discrimination to us low rankers? I mean I have seen a lot already that lead me to this  thinking. Like replies on posts of low ranking members that already judge the person even when they do not know the person.  Also on bitcoin signature campaigns, only a few gives opportunities for jr.members. But hey, You know what, I get it, this is because most of us low rankers often spam because we easily get excited in the thought of earning. But is it really enough reason to judge us and think that we are trash in this forum? Or that we are not capable of doing what high rankers here can? If you have bad opinions about us, at least keep save it for people who deserve it. Not to posts that aren’t really pure trash. Although it is good to say these kind of things to open eyes, but I don’t think it is fair to say it on low rankers who actually put a fair effort in building their posts or are just really curious which is why they ask questions.

I really cannot explain any further perhaps other low rankers out there can share their thoughts too. High rankers are also welcome to say something.

Very well said ... People ( not all ) here judge lower rank users regarding to their rank ...And this is completely wrong judgement because you can find newbie posts are more valuable than higher rank users .
Rank isn't anyway a measure of judgement

[odolvlobo]

If your reason for posting on this site is to earn money from a signature campaign, then your spam is worthless and you are trash, regardless of your rank.

[cryptoharnanto]

You see, I love this forum. I really do. Because it gives us a lot of opportunities to earn bitcoins and to learn a lot of things about the crypto world. But why do I get the feeling that there is a big discrimination to us low rankers? I mean I have seen a lot already that lead me to this  thinking. Like replies on posts of low ranking members that already judge the person even when they do not know the person.  Also on bitcoin signature campaigns, only a few gives opportunities for jr.members. But hey, You know what, I get it, this is because most of us low rankers often spam because we easily get excited in the thought of earning. But is it really enough reason to judge us and think that we are trash in this forum? Or that we are not capable of doing what high rankers here can? If you have bad opinions about us, at least keep save it for people who deserve it. Not to posts that aren’t really pure trash. Although it is good to say these kind of things to open eyes, but I don’t think it is fair to say it on low rankers who actually put a fair effort in building their posts or are just really curious which is why they ask questions.

I really cannot explain any further perhaps other low rankers out there can share their thoughts too. High rankers are also welcome to say something.

well said, but honestly thats just how our world works... like aristocrath sees low people and first world country sees thirld world country. we just have to accept it and make our way to climb the society ladder

[WildWestRider]

Keep your chin up!  Insecure people boost their own egos by putting others down, especially when hiding behind a screen with no accountability.  Educate yourself by reading the valuable threads here, ask meaningful questions, and participate so that your activity goes up and your status goes past newbie.  You'll get there!

[NyaoNyao]

I'm extremely new and this is going to be my first post. It's a little disheartening to learn about this, but elegion is right. You'll see discrimination almost everywhere else. I am relieved to read the replies. If I ever encounter something like that and it escalates I'm pretty sure reporting would help solve it.

[gentlemand]

I couldn't care less what someone's rank is, but there are endlessly repeating patterns that makes many people ill disposed towards them.

There's campaign farming which consists of totally meaningless posts made in an attempt to rank up, there's the endlessly repeating one of people asking questions in threads with the answer on the first page in extremely bold letters, there's the asking of questions that could be googled in a second.

I've never seen a noob rounded on if they're writing quality posts. Most don't so they are rounded on.

[Swoshinima]

I couldn't care less what someone's rank is, but there are endlessly repeating patterns that makes many people ill disposed towards them.

There's campaign farming which consists of totally meaningless posts made in an attempt to rank up, there's the endlessly repeating one of people asking questions in threads with the answer on the first page in extremely bold letters, there's the asking of questions that could be googled in a second.

I've never seen a noob rounded on if they're writing quality posts. Most don't so they are rounded on.

Hmm yes I also think so, but not every newbie behaves like that. Also the Legendary members started as newbies so you shouldn't treat every new member like that.

To prevent airdrops and bounties from cheaters it would help to set the lowest rank which can participate to "Jr Member" I think.

[gentlemand]

Hmm yes I also think so, but not every newbie behaves like that. Also the Legendary members started as newbies so you shouldn't treat every new member like that.

To prevent airdrops and bounties from cheaters it would help to set the lowest rank which can participate to "Jr Member" I think.

I've never seen anyone treated in any particular way because of their rank. There are plenty of legends who attract constant derision because of the pathetic shite they write.

It all goes on behaviour and newbies often behave in the ways outlined above.

[nskendrovic]

If people are looking down on you for being a beginner then they're just trying to be territorial. It's not nice but that doesn't mean they are better than you in any way. You can be better at them in something as they did not cover everything.

[cryptoharnanto]

yes newbie united soon some of us would not become newbie anymore. its just matter of time

[Trofo]

I have noticed the looking down too and the more time I spend on the forum it seems to me that they are maybe right to look down on us new members. It is not fair to to new members who try to add quality to the boards but if you take a look trough to all newbie accounts there is much more of spam posts then quality posts.

I have been monitoring few new altcoins and airdrops closely lately and I noticed users mostly newbies, but there are some more senior members as well asking questions literary answered few posts before which gets really irritating.

I know I try to read through whole topic before asking a question for reasonable sized topics and this forum has helped me learn much. Furthermore, I hope I have had my transition trough lowest ranks as dignified as possible and looking forward to my member status soon.

[machinek20]

Some people just look down on everyone despite of the rank, but most of the time the low rank users got trashed, because most of the time the old users think that they got more experience so they can talk whatever they like, the other reasons is alot of time scammer created new accounts to scammed other people

[prodigys]

im new, but willing to learn, seen like now not possible to mining and cant buy bitcoin close to market price

[Angelam2018]

If you've been on the forum for more than a year I wouldn't personally class you as a beginner - but I know what you mean it's a thin line between wanting to be involved and increase your rank and not wanting to provide useless information or spam anyone

Best of luck with it!

[Hypercube]

Hmm yes I also think so, but not every newbie behaves like that. Also the Legendary members started as newbies so you shouldn't treat every new member like that.

To prevent airdrops and bounties from cheaters it would help to set the lowest rank which can participate to "Jr Member" I think.

I've never seen anyone treated in any particular way because of their rank. There are plenty of legends who attract constant derision because of the pathetic shite they write.

It all goes on behaviour and newbies often behave in the ways outlined above.

This sums it up pretty much. I saw plenty of legendaries that should have at least improved their grammar and basic english after writing +1k posts but are just contributing garbage to any conversation they enter. I guess there is the hacking factor in that case too we should consider.

Despite the avatar restriction I feel everything is pretty legitimate to avoid people spamming worthless stuff. Although I think allowing signature campaigns is just an aberration and enters in complete contradiction with this, there will always be users to take advantage of this and fill their post quota as much as they can with probably multiple accounts.

In the end your rank does matter, but probably not as much as your content.

[tuli22]

Valid point. As a beginner/newbie on this forum it's very hard to get noticed / personalized answers. More often than not we're left wondering and confused. I know because I faced this issue myself when I was just getting started in the field and had a lot of things I wanted to understand.

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[qoshie]

they're not looking down on us they just want us to read around the forum. self learn like that.

[Valzador]

Valid point. As a beginner/newbie on this forum it's very hard to get noticed / personalized answers. More often than not we're left wondering and confused. I know because I faced this issue myself when I was just getting started in the field and had a lot of things I wanted to understand.

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[Vatimins]

Many thanks to all that shared their own point of views. I did not post this topic because i have anything against high ranking members or anything, I was just plain curious, and because i think a lot also are wondering, i thought i should ask it here, because this topic never gets talked about. And I am glad that a lot of low and high ranking members of this forum shared their opinions. And I see that every point of view that everyone shared are really honst amd true. I hope this thread opens eyes for everyone to respect each other no matter the rank, low or high. and would be more careful in writing replies that may unreasonably hurt someone intentionally or not. Because we all here are lovers of crypto currencies., we should know better than to step on one another. We all share the same reason of being here, may not be exactly the same, but you get my point. So i think it is just right for us to understand and help each other the best we can to become better together rather than striving for superiority over others.

Good day everyone. Hope this reaches your hearts and minds and helps you guy to understand both sides.

[gmf1000]

they're not looking down on us they just want us to read around the forum. self learn like that.

Yep, reading the rules, QnA, how the forum works, is needed... And as there's the Rank system, we need to post too.. It helps both your account and the forum grow bigger ~

I Also think we can't generalize every newbie has poor knowledge, as there might be "silent reader" member who has no interest to post ~

[Michaelsch]

Maybe people just don't have time to answer to everyone and they need to have some filters to understand where is the most interesting info could be. Rating could work as a filter... So I do not think people look down on Newbies, everyone started here as a Newbie.

[TheAndy500]

You see, I love this forum. I really do. Because it gives us a lot of opportunities to earn bitcoins and to learn a lot of things about the crypto world. But why do I get the feeling that there is a big discrimination to us low rankers? I mean I have seen a lot already that lead me to this  thinking. Like replies on posts of low ranking members that already judge the person even when they do not know the person.  Also on bitcoin signature campaigns, only a few gives opportunities for jr.members. But hey, You know what, I get it, this is because most of us low rankers often spam because we easily get excited in the thought of earning. But is it really enough reason to judge us and think that we are trash in this forum? Or that we are not capable of doing what high rankers here can? If you have bad opinions about us, at least keep save it for people who deserve it. Not to posts that aren’t really pure trash. Although it is good to say these kind of things to open eyes, but I don’t think it is fair to say it on low rankers who actually put a fair effort in building their posts or are just really curious which is why they ask questions.

I really cannot explain any further perhaps other low rankers out there can share their thoughts too. High rankers are also welcome to say something.

Everyone competition about anything, it's not just about bitcoins or any coins/ tokens, that's normal in our lifes, so that's why. Everytime person who is better will point you that you are beginner.

[betong]

i dont think thats true. ive seen how multiple account newbies try to discredit legendarys.
plus if they get to an argument newbies wins(+postcount). lol

[gl0ckn]

Just remember this is the internet and anonymity gives a lot of people an excuse to let out their shitty nature. I made an account because I usually just came here to get info and learn but when given the chance to participate in an airdrop that my friend suggest I get in on, I had my first reason to make an account and got shit on right away for that (this is account #2 because I was OCD about the name and wanted to change it). Granted I know how it looks to see a "Brand New" account asking for handouts so I don't mind that.

So now I'm slowly trying to build up my account and participate a little more in discussions

[BitcoinDefender]

Too many beginners without knowledge lower the bar. Most stupid questions can be anwered with google. In every field pros look down on the lazy beginners. This is completely normal. Try harder.

[coinholic]

You see, I love this forum. I really do. Because it gives us a lot of opportunities to earn bitcoins and to learn a lot of things about the crypto world. But why do I get the feeling that there is a big discrimination to us low rankers? I mean I have seen a lot already that lead me to this  thinking. Like replies on posts of low ranking members that already judge the person even when they do not know the person.  Also on bitcoin signature campaigns, only a few gives opportunities for jr.members. But hey, You know what, I get it, this is because most of us low rankers often spam because we easily get excited in the thought of earning. But is it really enough reason to judge us and think that we are trash in this forum? Or that we are not capable of doing what high rankers here can? If you have bad opinions about us, at least keep save it for people who deserve it. Not to posts that aren’t really pure trash. Although it is good to say these kind of things to open eyes, but I don’t think it is fair to say it on low rankers who actually put a fair effort in building their posts or are just really curious which is why they ask questions.

I really cannot explain any further perhaps other low rankers out there can share their thoughts too. High rankers are also welcome to say something.

Yes, it is frustrating when others would look down on you because you’re new. But we should also consider preparing ourselves for anything we would enter into doing. Bullying is quite expected for new comers. This has been part of most systems. But we should be able to condition ourselves physically, psychologically, and emotionally. If we get affected so easily, we won’t be able to advance. Unless the account was purchased, every member on this forum started as a newbie. So the high ranking ones should remember how they started...

[Immakillya]

Not all mate. We been through that before. So we know how it feels mate. Just ignore them and do what  is your objective here. Some higher ranks thinks that they are really superior to anyone here in this forum. But in reality, they are just wanna be genius or mr. know it all. Talking nonsense and mocking others. But when you look at their posts. Most are shitposts and nonsense posts. My suggestion is just ignore them. Study every sections around this forum. Im pretty it will give more ideas how you can help the community. Rank is just a title mate. Knowledge is something you can keep forever.

[chimcoin]

Friend ,if you are thinking of what people say about a newbie you get it wrong, i think nobody is interested on what anybody post except you are not following the rules or you are too desirous to make it to the new level.

[setifien19]

Too many beginners without knowledge lower the bar. Most stupid questions can be anwered with google. In every field pros look down on the lazy beginners. This is completely normal. Try harder.

I am sure there is a lot of newbies who have knowledge even more than some upranked members ...
A newbie is not always newbie to crypto , he may be expert but joined this forum recently...But in an other hand there is such kind of newbies who are so lazy to do small research and ask repeatedly questions

[BitcoinDefender]

Needless to say. I talked about "beginners" and not about the user rank "newbie". Many here are producing an outstanding amount of low level posts just to get in a higher position fast.

[jagmrx]

Needless to say. I talked about "beginners" and not about the user rank "newbie". Many here are producing an outstanding amount of low level posts just to get in a higher position fast.

I think people who look down to beginners is fine. I am a beginner, and I'm fine with their look. It just an online forum, it's not affecting my life or my money. So why should I worry ? Just ignore them, and keep posting. Every pro used to become a newbie too. If you make mistakes, go fix it. Keep posting, ready, and asking. Always learn about this crypto world, that is the most important thing. Do not mind about other people think.

[thedarksun]

I'm extremely new and this is going to be my first post. It's a little disheartening to learn about this, but elegion is right. You'll see discrimination almost everywhere else. I am relieved to read the replies. If I ever encounter something like that and it escalates I'm pretty sure reporting would help solve it.

Come on, more than 80% of users here are not trying to punish you, i never heard about somethink like that, we try to help everyone with their problems!