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January 16, 2018, 04:19:19 AM
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I understand your point.  I agree with it, but I think you're failing to see mine.

Honestly, I don't. You promised a price floor for rubies, and then broke your promise; tacitly scamming some pretty serious money...

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It was more attractive to bet bitcoin with the rubies bet-mining, but at the same time, people were betting Rubies instead rather than Bitcoin. The Rubies betting volume that could have been Bitcoin betting was enormous.  It was doing multiples of the bitcoin wagering daily for quite a while.

In other words, you directly profited from the effects of the price floor. The fact that people were also using rubies for gambling in a way that you didn't make any money is pretty irrelevant.


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Just because something bad happens, doesn't mean you just give up on it.  You have to adjust and work towards making it great.  I understand that's what led us here, but the thought was that it was the better choice than just simply letting rubies, Betterbets, and us by indirect association taking on major damage that threatens its standing.  It all happened quite early into the takeover with a big team and no clear order.  We took what was dealt to us and tried to do the best with it as we could.

lol? You did pull the rug on everyone. It's easy to talk and come up with excuses (see: Josh Garza) for why you aren't doing what you promised. If you had an iota of integrity you would've held the price floor. And you have already irrevocably damaged Rubies, your and MoneyPot's reputation.... You act like scamming people protected it, or something???


A custodial bitcoin site is only as good as the value of it's promise, and you've established yours as having 0 value. I guarantee it'll be the death of MoneyPot. I hope your little scam was worth it.


Anyway, this will be my last post as I've spoken my mind and don't have anything new to add.

P.S. How's the search for a neutral third party who is willing to say what you did isn't scammy going? lol

You keep using the word scam and taking money like I or Moneypot ended up with it.  We didn't.  If I wanted to scam people, Moneypot still wouldn't exist, you wouldn't know who I am, and I still wouldn't be working hard day in an out.

I really haven't searched for one because I don't want to distract myself further with your childish games.  I used to have a lot of respect for you, but I can't even tell if it's you or JPR who's responding to me now.

You of all people shouldn't be making all these outlandish claims.  I believe you contributed more than anyone in how this has all played out. I have plenty more to say, but the day will come.

Take care.

please explain how and why RHavar is worse than you?

you can easy tell if it is me or RHavar but finally also other users get the point that DD is a Scammer


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January 16, 2018, 04:39:44 PM
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We took Rubies on to support the network and give it grounding so that all rubies holders (us included) could benefit from it slowly and over the long term where the coin holds real value.

It sounds as if you still don't understand why that can't work.

When you offer a "floor price" below the current market price, nobody takes you up on the offer, and so there's no point having the floor.

When you offer a "floor price" above the current market price, everyone takes you up on the offer, and you go bust.

People pointed your mistake out to you at the time. I know I did. You ignored me. So don't claim now that you didn't know what you were doing.

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February 04, 2018, 07:45:16 PM
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The following post of mine got deleted within 30 minutes from the main MP thread.  I was told via PMs that it was because of "speculation"...even though all I did was restate clearly the discussion that MP themselves were having with someone who is apparently suing them.

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So just to be clear: MP owes Maiden 100BTC (nearly a million dollars) and has not paid him/her?  This is money that wasn't lost, but was held in the bankroll?

If this is true, than the only logical conclusion that can be drawn is that MP is, in fact, insolvent.  You held money that you can not return.  This isn't debt, this is bankroll funds.  If you've owed this money for a long time and have put off payment it looks really, really bad.
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February 04, 2018, 08:02:54 PM
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The following post of mine got deleted within 30 minutes from the main MP thread.  I was told via PMs that it was because of "speculation"...even though all I did was restate clearly the discussion that MP themselves were having with someone who is apparently suing them.

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So just to be clear: MP owes Maiden 100BTC (nearly a million dollars) and has not paid him/her?  This is money that wasn't lost, but was held in the bankroll?

If this is true, than the only logical conclusion that can be drawn is that MP is, in fact, insolvent.  You held money that you can not return.  This isn't debt, this is bankroll funds.  If you've owed this money for a long time and have put off payment it looks really, really bad.


also RHavar's and mine were deleted. just look here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2592025.msg29607926#msg29607926

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February 05, 2018, 11:57:36 AM
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MP is now owned by the group MonsterByte, aka bitcoinrush:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228243.1940
There you can find their thread with dev frolicking around, self loathing at his works. 
Maybe someone should address the 100 BTC fraud the company they just purchased is currently going through.
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February 05, 2018, 12:07:33 PM
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MP is now owned by the group MonsterByte, aka bitcoinrush:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228243.1940
There you can find their thread with dev frolicking around, self loathing at his works. 
Maybe someone should address the 100 BTC fraud the company they just purchased is currently going through.

please give us a link to understand what you mean regarding the dev

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February 15, 2018, 04:50:59 PM
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This Scam accusation needs a Bump. Be warned and lets not forget

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February 19, 2018, 06:22:21 AM
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new info posted here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2592025.msg30590813#msg30590813

new interesting info from Monsterbyte posted in another thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1683230.msg30576791#msg30576791

1. Monster Byte hasn't closed the deal with MP, we are waiting for the outcome of claim in Canada.

2. Provably.io (and all other sites that leverage MoneyPot) are owned and operated by individuals, not MoneyPot (or any parent company)


and

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1683230.msg30580706#msg30580706

The deal we have been working on takes months to close, just like real-world M&A. Also in the real world, we have periods of due diligence to satisfy before closing on such opportunities. In this case, the press was released before the legal claim came in. If things don't work out for MP, we will retract our offer. We are hoping that's not the case as we believe we have the right talent to grow MoneyPot to be in a position of success and trust this year.

I missed you!

<FYI, This is the last I'm responding to any MP items, we will revisit it after the legal process is done >

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August 18, 2019, 06:26:33 PM
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RBIES buyback forever Mr Dogedigital aka...........aka.........

https://www.coinopsy.com/dead-coins/rubies/

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August 18, 2019, 06:37:40 PM
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Wow, I never heard of the above website--it's very interesting. 

I'm also familiar with your issue with the dev reneging on the promise to buy back Rubies at a set price but I hadn't seen this thread bumped in a long time, so I wasn't following the status of the situation.  That sucks, but I figured it was headed toward this conclusion.  It was always a sketchy promise IMO, because anyone promising that they'll lose money for you is probably lying through their teeth.  I did not realize the coin was completely dead, however.

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August 19, 2019, 09:55:31 AM
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Wow, I never heard of the above website--it's very interesting. 

I'm also familiar with your issue with the dev reneging on the promise to buy back Rubies at a set price but I hadn't seen this thread bumped in a long time, so I wasn't following the status of the situation.  That sucks, but I figured it was headed toward this conclusion.  It was always a sketchy promise IMO, because anyone promising that they'll lose money for you is probably lying through their teeth.  I did not realize the coin was completely dead, however.

thanks for your comment, very much appreciated.

I am glad to shed some more light on Dogedigital's scam. I am not giving up though chances are slim but as I know who Dogedigital aka........aka.......... is I am sure I will meet him someday at the tables  Grin

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August 19, 2019, 12:46:48 PM
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Everything he touches turns into...hmm.... lead...
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August 19, 2019, 02:13:07 PM
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Everything he touches turns into...hmm.... lead...


who is he?

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